Sustanon 250 Tren Ace Cycle.. Thoughts?

[Not2Swole]

Just looking for some insight to those who have run Tren Ace and Sustanon 250 together...
Stats: 29
Weight: ~170
BF: ~7%

Previous cycle :
1-4 weeks of Beastdrol
1-14 weeks of Sustanon 250 @ 750mg per week
1-14 weeks of Primo @ 300mg per week
Kept almost all my gains!!! Still up 20lbs 6 months later!! Body fat never got above 9%
Had no mental/physical side effects... Felt great through out cycle and PCT....

Looking to run this in a few weeks:

Weeks 1 -12 Sus250 @ 750 per week (MWF)
Weeks 1- 10 Tren Ace @ 300 per week (MWF)
Weeks 5 - 12 HCG 500IU Tues & Sat
Weeks 1-12 Forma 5 pumps am and 5 pumps pm
Daily Arimidex @ .25mg per day
Cab and Letro on hand in case of progest sides and/or gyno

PCT
Clomid 25mg per day 4 weeks starting the day of my last sus250 pin
HCGenerate
Need2slin
Gear

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

Ace needs to be ran everyday bro.. or run tren enanth just because of the longer lasting ester.

I would also kickstart with an oral due to the time it takes for the sustanon..
I personally would run prop. You should try to inject the same syringe and spot instead of having to dump 4ccs of uncle earls finest into your body.

id run some primo in their as well throught with the test
If you want to cut alil bit at the end, throw in some winny

Because your allready pretty lean, i would consuder masteron as well.... Fuck EQ... It for fat people sortta speak.
But Mast is good if your under 9% EQ is the entire time.

 

[JBEXT81]

EQ is for fat people????

Where did this come from...

 

[RADAR]

EQ is for fat people????

Where did this come from...

LOLZ!!!! thats what i wanna know!

 

[chesty]

Me too? EQ for fat people? That's like saying testosterone is for teenagers. Masteron can be run your entire cycle and you don't have to be 9% or less. It is also an aromatase inhibitor like proviron, only stronger and can even have the horrible side effect of increasing your sex drive.

 

[kc17]

eq for fat people ?? where are you getting your info from??

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

From the 7 years ive been researching. All the body builders, Doctors and physicians ive talked to on a daily basis. You guys need to remember, ive been in school for the last 6 years studying hormones, Anestetics, and other injectables and have covered everything from diuretics, Hormones, Peptides, Gear in general, and have done numerous reswearch papers on steroids for grad classes. Funny how i 4.0 gpa, and every doctor teaching my CRNA courses dont disagree with what i have to say. So to hear 5 people that have no medical background chime in and say... EQ not for fat people. (BTW im not talking about joe blow at 50% body fat eating 10 whopper a day) Im talking about your 14-16% people looking for decent gains.

EQ= bulk
Mast=CUT

Sure someone under 7% can run EQ and expect good gains. Mast was made for people that have low body fat percentages and your body will take more advatage of this gear than the EQ. Mast should be used as a cutter before a show. Thats why most people stack MAST with tren/ Test in their??? Cutting cycles, thats right guys. EQ is usually compared to deca and used with what? Bulk. Of course you can cut on deca and gain on tren, its all about your diet, but thats getting awayf rom the point. If you honestly think you will see great gains from the EQ go with it, but your gonna put on more weight instead of really hardening, cutting the muscle, and seeing the strength gain from it.
If you gonna be running tren/test combo, Mast would be your best bet. Your not gonan gains much weight if any on mast, but its all about the other compounds your stacking with it. EQ will cause you to gain weight with the correct dose.
You guys need to do more research instead of trying to prove a Medical student wrong and looking like a fool! I can give you guys the number of many physicians and BBERs, and trainers that will agree with my statements made and validate any key points i may have missed.
Just remember its never about the gear your on, but about that diet you have while on!

 

[Voijn]

Well makes alittle sense since EQ does give you more appitite and that will results in more eating, wich will help building more muscle since your eating more and that way easier bulking. But saying that EQ is for fat people is still wrong, a person that wants to build some mass with low aromatasion rate, and an increase in appitate EQ will help and talking about the vascularity?

yes mast does not aromatise, and yes it does work as a aromatise inhibitor so it would be usefull for cutting since no water weight is gained and it can work to keep estrogene levels lowers with test wich would improve a cut further more

but yes key role is diet

 

[caribeman]

Proviron does not work as an AE..... this is incorrect.

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

You guys maybe ever consider the fact that maybe its the other gear your on, not the EQ and Mast that are giving your the gains. You should see no gains at all in muscle size or weight with mast unless your taking it at a very high dose like 800mg per week and your gains are gonna be some minimum that 2 weeks of test prop alone ed at 50mg will triple those gains. Understanding that cutters DO NOT GIVE YOU ANY MUSCLE GAIN WHAT SO EVER is really an easy composition once you do thorough research and understand what the juice is actually doing to your body. Hardening a muscle and adding size to that muscle... two completely different goals and ideas! and diets to spite that!

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

Proviron does not work as an AE..... this is incorrect.

This is correct as well, Proviron should be ran during your cycle and as a cutter with winny, anavar, not an AE. Arimidex is what your looking for as your AE bro. Think of Proviron as a oral Mast!

 

[stevesmi]

you cannot learn about steroids and bodybuilding by reading books and getting 4.0 GPA's bro.

you learn about them by doing them and trial and error.

and not to rain on your parade further but tren ace DOES NOT have to be run ED. why on earth would that be the case? the half lives are 2-3 days so you logically can run it EOD or even every 3 days.

let me ask you this just for reference.. dbol half life is hours, we both can agree on that.. does that mean i should take dbol during the night ? or can it be effective taking it 3 times per day only?

also i ran tren/mast and BULKED. i have pics up on my log to show this.. I GAINED WEIGHT on the cycle. so even though your books and professor will say you can only cut on mast and tren its just not true. real life experience vs. books

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

im sure your bulked, Tren is a great bulker if you eat on while on it. and dont talk to me about running shit... Ive run 3 cycles and im currently 5'6'' 192 at 8% body fat. My first cycle i ever ran was tren/prop/dbol/winny at 10 weeks to prove people wrong that newbies should run tren. I continued the prop for 16 weeks and put on 32 lbs... Tht was my first cycle and i didnt have a single side effect. My father used to inejct himself daily as infront of me, as he was a body builder and i grew up around him and all his friends training for misc. comps. This has been my life since i was 4 years old and im currently 23O, And Btw,My 4.0 gpa is landing me a job at 200k injecting people everyday... Pretty sure my research and personal knowledge about usage of AAS, peptides, hormones, diuretics, insulin,and gh is shitting on your personal training job!!!
But imma keep it professional, and just say from experience and my background, i know a bit more about anything that has to do with the human body and making it grow and shrink than you can even imagine and i do have the education to back it. What do you have? 4 cycles and knowledge from joe blow gym rat.... Great refrence!!!! Dont let the post number fool you bro!

Please quote the post where i say you cant bulk on tren too. Its all about diet!

If you want my personal opinion, i think if your messing around with orals, you should keep them consistent in your body. Ive found this out in my own personal usage. I did this with my dbol and put on great results. Granted this was my first cycle and was with the tren and prop. I started the winny at 7 weeks after i was done with the dbol after running it at 100mg ED splits into 4 doses one in the 7am, 1pm, 7pm, 1 am. My winny i took once a day before i worked out and got minimum loss from it on a great diet. Dont really wanna post the diet just because ive allready typed a funcking paper. Im a believer in tren ace and test prop at a lower dose ED as well. Blood levels being consistent is so much more important than people give it credit for. And sorry for being a doush earlier in my post Now that ive typed more, ive cooled off. Im serious when people tell me i dont know what im talking about because im a student. Im much more than that, trust me.
Johnny

 

[stevesmi]

im sure your bulked, Tren is a great bulker if you eat on while on it. and dont talk to me about running shit... Ive run 3 cycles and im currently 5'6'' 192 at 8% body fat. My first cycle i ever ran was tren/prop/dbol/winny at 10 weeks to prove people wrong that newbies should run tren. I continued the prop for 16 weeks and put on 32 lbs... Tht was my first cycle and i didnt have a single side effect. My father used to inejct himself daily as infront of me, as he was a body builder and i grew up around him and all his friends training for misc. comps. This has been my life since i was 4 years old and im currently 23O, And Btw,My 4.0 gpa is landing me a job at 200k injecting people everyday... Pretty sure my research and personal knowledge about usage of AAS, peptides, hormones, diuretics, insulin,and gh is shitting on your personal training job!!!
Johnny

touchy, touchy, touchy... post up pics. putting on 32 pounds of weight? wow.. i am amazed, you must be one heck of an athlete!

remember many of us choose to run short, smart conservative cycles at first.. not just jump on tren and prop as first cycles... bodybuilding is not a sprint, its a marathon. seems like you ran your first cycle when you were like 130 pounds, thats great for you.. but a lot of us chose to build a base first, not sell out and jump on tren for a first cycle to put on 30 pounds.. so If you are telling the truth I'm not impressed sorry and i guarantee you the vets on here aren't either. all it shows is that you were severely below your genetic potential.

and LOL i'm not a personal trainer.

and you think you are the only person on here with a 4.0 GPA? I was a rhodes scholar nominee back in the late 90's but notice I do not come on here bragging about it

bro your posts crack me up, I do enjoy them.. this one I will have to save in the archives though.