Supplements between cycles?

[Nelson Montana]

Clean bulking? BIG BLAST and ZIP and above and beyond everything else.

As for Animal Stak -- it contains DHT blockers -- aka ANTI ANDROGENS. What does tell you how much thst company knows about bodybuilding?

 

[orat]

I just wrapped up a mini cycle to get the ball rolling after a 9 month layoff due to spraining my shoulder twice. I have my BF down to about 11% and feel good. My question is what products do you guys use when not on? Creatine combined with what?

I am looking to gain clean pounds here. My diet is always in check whether bulking or cutting so I don't need help there. Too many new products to sift through to see what is garbage and what actually works. It seems most of the MuscleTech stuff is crap, but I don't know for sure.

Any thoughts or current off cycle stacks would be appreciated. K to those who help!

J

The original Dermacrine is great for a 3-4 week cycle. It will improve your mood, your mental acuity, your libido, and DHEA levels. It may improve your test levels but I am not completely convinced of that yet. I am convinced however that it does have some anabolic and androgenic properties, along with some fat burning qualities. My wife uses one small lotion pump a day and wants to fuck and suck my cock all the time so if you have a significant other it could also be used as a side-benefit like that.

Eight caps of Amplify02 about 30 minutes before your workout will turn you into a fucking monster with laser-like focus, intense motivation, and significant muscular and cardiovascular energy. The regular dose is 12 caps- I started at 6 and frankly, don't know that I could handle more than 8. The muscle pumps it gives you are a great bonus too. The stimulation from Amp02 is not just a caffeine buzz, although it does contain caffeine. It has a different characteristic that I find hard to articulate. The best I can do is tell you that it feels like you have a massive amount of unstable energy in your body and the only way to get it out is to lift large amounts of heavy weights.

Lipoflame is great for energy but I've been on it less than one week so I can't say how effective it is at its advertised purpose (fat loss).

Others have mentioned BCAAs, which I agree with. Honestly I am a huge skeptic, in general, and don't buy into most supplement advertising so what I'm telling you was quite surprising to me when I experienced it.

 

[njmuscleguy]

Clean bulking? BIG BLAST and ZIP and above and beyond everything else.

As for Animal Stak -- it contains dihydrotestosterone blockers -- aka ANTI ANDROGENS. What does tell you how much thst company knows about bodybuilding?

Wasn't aware of that... which ingredient(s) exactly are dht blockers?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Wasn't aware of that... which ingredient(s) exactly are dihydrotestosterone blockers?

Saw palmetto, sitasterol and pygeum all stop DHT, which is responsible for muscle hardness and necessary to acheive an erection. It also prevents estrogen from forming (Proviron is pretty much pure D H T)

It says so right here. .http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/stak2.html

Compare it to this -- all ingredients designed for bodybuilders. http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/pfac/dx7.html

 

[njmuscleguy]

Well, those are all for prostate health... I never considered that these ingredients could cause any issues with muscle development or libido... and I take 2 of these packs a day! Might have to re-think this. It's just weird that if this is a product geared towards bodybuilders, they would include ingredients that would be counter-productive?

 

[mobro]

O.K. Nelson, here's a freebie. What do you know about DX 7? And if you don't, please just say so.

 

[Nelson Montana]

nj -- the fact that it's counterproductive to bodybuilders is just ironic. You see, these manufacturers include things that are known to be used by men. They have no idea why. They read that saw palmetto is good for prostate health so they throw it in, figuring it's good. This is the difference between big business and people who are in the trenches.

mobro -- I designed DX7 so I know quite a bit about it. One thing that is pretty amazing is beta glucan -- a big factor with recovery and an ingredient you won't find in any other multi. (to my knowledge). What would you like to know?

 

[krishna]

The essentials are creatine, glutamine, BCAA's, multi, r-ala, dialing in your diet, timing your nutrition according to workouts, and working out with all you got!

 

[Nelson Montana]

The essentials are creatine, glutamine, BCAA's, multi, r-alpha lipoic acid, dialing in your diet, timing your nutrition according to workouts, and working out with all you got!

Ironic, since glutamine is classified as a NON essential amino acid. It's pretty much worthless. Save your money.

Creatine is good only when bulking.

BCAA's are good but hardly "essential." If you use a good whey isolate you get plenty. Save your money.

rla is more essential than a MULTI?!?!

Dude, I think you just want to disagree with whatever I say. If so, at least try and make sense.

I also think "nutrient timing" is the most OVERRATED aspect of bodybuilding. But that's a topic for another time.

 

[krishna]

Ironic, since glutamine is classified as a NON essential amino acid. It's pretty much worthless. Save your money.

Creatine is good only when bulking.

BCAA's are good but hardly "essential." If you use a good whey isolate you get plenty. Save your money.

rla is more essential than a MULTI?!?!

Dude, I think you just want to disagree with whatever I say. If so, at least try and make sense.

I also think "nutrient timing" is the most OVERRATED aspect of bodybuilding. But that's a topic for another time.

My post had nothing to do with you bro. And when did I say rla was more essential than a multi? By essentials, I meant things that I wouldn't go without while off. He was asking for our opinions wasn't he? Well that's what I gave. If yours is different then that's fine. I didn't go bashing yours so why are you jumping on mine? Like I said, my post had nothing to do with you. I didn't even read any other posts before posting mine. Chill bro!