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Supplement for onseting diabetes type II ?

Thom

Thom

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Hey
Any recommendations for supplements or meds for someone with onseting diabetes type II, other than glucorell and glucophage?

Also something to improve bloodsirculation..?

thanks
thom
 
you might want to talk to your endocrinologist or primary care physician about this..there a a few drugs used for this..pill form,,mainly they work by signaling the pancreas to secrete more insulin, and there are ones that help uptake of glucose into body tissues(organs , muscles, tissue etc...)
 
Insulow -- best there is.. shit, lots of people stop taking their perscription drugs after trying Insulow, as it works better WITHOUT any of the side effects associated with a lot of the higher cost, perscription medications.
 
although i agree there may be some types of supplements that can help with controling hypergycemia,,he needs to speak with his physician regarding what is going to be done about his medical condition...after a while depending on how young a patient is when developing type II diabetes it will/can eventually develop into insulin dependant diabetes...when diabetes is managed well based off of proper diet, medication and normal blood sugar levels there is a low risk of developing circulation, cardiovascular, vision problems, erectile dysfunction etc...(insert diabetic complication here)..please talk to your doctor..
 
Ulter said:
It's a product for diabetics. It's in stores, on Amazon.com Drugstore.com and CVS.com

The ingredients are Glucorell R
Go to the website and click on PRESS and you can read the clinical support.
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No ive been using glucorell since you made it. But by glucorell you mean R-ala (what you originally sold)? Is it marketed by anafit? and will glucorell become extinct and replaced by this "name brand"? :worried:
 
ProtienFiend said:
No ive been using glucorell since you made it. But by glucorell you mean R-ala (what you originally sold)? Is it marketed by anafit? and will glucorell become extinct and replaced by this "name brand"? :worried:
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its just a different presentation of the same product, glucorell will still be available.
 
Thom said:
Hey
Any recommendations for supplements or meds for someone with onseting diabetes type II, other than glucorell and glucophage?

Also something to improve bloodsirculation..?

thanks
thom
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Chromium or Vanadyl and is all I can think of supplement wise.
 
ALIN said:
Chromium or Vanadyl and is all I can think of supplement wise.
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Chromium's effects are nominal at best :o

As for Vanadyl Sulfate...

From Big Cat (whatever thats worth):

My beef with vanadyl is the toxicity level. Though the recommended doses are far below toxic, they are also far below effective. They recommend 25-50 mg, prior to workout or after a meal, but the effective dose for bodybuilders lies closer to 75 mg. The toxicity level starts at 100 mg for most people, though some claim it's higher, I dare you to test it. So what's the problem you ask? 75 isn't 100. True enough, but like all trace minerals, vanadium remains in the body longer than you would like, and as you keep using it, the body level of vanadium keeps going up. Vanadyl accumulates in bone, kidneys and in high concentrations in the liver. For someone watching this closely it's not a true problem, but I should warn you that your multi-vitamin and several other supplements contains small amounts of vanadium as well. As a result using vanadyl requires cycling it 3 weeks on, 12 weeks off. This hardly makes it a favorite for supplementation. The standard RDA is 10 mcg, that's a tenth of a gram. So what is the use of extra, for the little benefit it has. You'll find ALA to be more effective for a similar price. Some studies do show that the effective doses are lower than thought, but I urge you to take into account that this stuff goes to the liver and bones faster than the skeletal muscle. This means that even if you get enough in your muscles you are already stacking more of it in your organs.
 
lanky said:
although i agree there may be some types of supplements that can help with controling hypergycemia,,he needs to speak with his physician regarding what is going to be done about his medical condition...after a while depending on how young a patient is when developing type II diabetes it will/can eventually develop into insulin dependant diabetes...when diabetes is managed well based off of proper diet, medication and normal blood sugar levels there is a low risk of developing circulation, cardiovascular, vision problems, erectile dysfunction etc...(insert diabetic complication here)..please talk to your doctor..
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Agree fully, diabetes ends up leading to a PLETHORA of complications, including neurolgical (Periph neuropathy as well as all Lanky has stated). Circulation leads to amputation in severe cases. Both type 1 and 2 are very serious and problematic and should be treated as such, dont rely on "supplements" for a second.....i dont care how good they are...some things need medical treatment (and in this case consistant checkups and supervision)......if you had a systemic fungal infection with heart involvment would you use "supplements" or ampho-B? If you want to live, ampho-B even though its the nastiest drug out there or one of them.

You NEED to see an endo about this.
Lanky knows what hes talking about, trust me, i know 8-D
 
k, thanks for your answers. I am offcourse going to the doctor and all that. But he doesnt know shit about r-ala (theres few, if any, docs in Norway that knows about stuff like that I think). That's why it's always good to check with you guys for tips :)
 
on a lighter note there's about to be available an inhalable insulin so don't fear the insulin injections :)
 
bigrand said:
Both type 1 and 2 are very serious and problematic and should be treated as such, dont rely on "supplements" for a second.....i dont care how good they are...some things need medical treatment
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if it were patentable, R- lipoic would have been a prescription drug. it is more effective than metformin and most of the new ppar-gamma (glizatone's) agonists. agree that bloodwork should be done, however disagree that "traditional" drugs treatment is more effective and certainly disagree that they are as healthy for the user. Insulin does not treat type II diabetes it just treats the symptoms, it does nothing to halt the underlying disease if anything it contributes to its progression.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
if it were patentable, R- lipoic would have been a prescription drug. it is more effective than metformin and most of the new ppar-gamma (glizatone's) agonists. agree that bloodwork should be done, however disagree that "traditional" drugs treatment is more effective and certainly disagree that they are as healthy for the user. Insulin does not treat type II diabetes it just treats the symptoms, it does nothing to halt the underlying disease if anything it contributes to its progression.
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Im not saying that supplements dont work or cant help (i have read a good deal on ALA and its affects), but it sounded at first as if he wanted to use supps as the staple and not be seen by a MD consistantly. Diabetes, both types, are diseases that need to be monitered and treated like diseases and you dont treat didseases with just supplements.....use supplements as an adjuvant. I personally dont like metformin (terrible shits) and agree ALA is good for his case, but blood work and monitoring by an endo is needed.

Yes, type 1 is the insulin dependant one, where pancreatic islet cells dont secrete insulin (its an AI disease where the body kills those cells)...so insulin, spray or not, isnt needed in this case.

Ive heard some people (chiro student) say that you shouldnt get vaccines and all this other shit, like medicine is bad and you dont need to see doctors, just chiros and holistic cleansing fuckers and stuff like that.... i about slapped him, and i hate people who avoid the doctors when they are ill....its just dumb.....wasnt sure if this guy was wanting to avoid meds and an endo....glad hes not.

Medical intervention is needed in many cases including this one, but can deff be helped by specific supps such as your fave ALA Mac! 8-)
 
bigrand said:
I personally dont like metformin (terrible shits) and agree ALA is good for his case, but blood work and monitoring by an endo is needed.

Yes, type 1 is the insulin dependant one, where pancreatic islet cells dont secrete insulin (its an AI disease where the body kills those cells)...so insulin, spray or not, isnt needed in this case.
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agree

agree (use of r-ala with type I's is also a trickier proposition as it requires closer glucose monitoring and modulation of insulin intake- though good in cases where there are adipose issues as well- so that insulin doses can be reduced)
 
macro/ulter:
Just out of curiosity, what dose of glucorellr/insulow would you recommend prior to a meal that consists of, say, 30g carbs (from food on the lower scale of the GI list).
 
more is not a necessity but it would not really be overkill (unless you experince hypoglycemia with a higher dose), there would still be some benefits (but not so much from increased glucose clearance). However for "general use" 1 cap is where you want to be.
 
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