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Stop hair loss with Toco-8

Primordial Performance

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As a sponsor of Elite Fitness I’d like to announce the release of our latest product – Toco-8.

Toco-8 is a powdered tocotrienol complex extracted from Palm Fruits (elaies guineensis) and has recently been patented for its effect on improving hair count by an average of 42% in men and women suffering from alopecia. Please see a quote directly from the human study –

"At the end of the supplementation period, all volunteers in the tocotrienol formulation group had positive results, recording an increase in the number of hairs in the evaluation area. Seven volunteers (64%) showed regrowth of between 10-35% while 3 volunteers (27%) had 50% or greater regrowth. One volunteer had regrowth of more than 100%. The mean percentage of increase in the number of hairs is 42.4.+-.40.9% (mean.+-)."

To read the full patent, please visit here -
http://www.google.com/patents?id=AtF_AAAAEBAJ&dq=7211274

To learn more about Toco-8 visit us here –Toco-8

Thank you.

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:


As a sponsor of Elite Fitness I’d like to announce the release of our latest product – Toco-8.

Toco-8 is a powdered tocotrienol complex extracted from Palm Fruits (elaies guineensis) and has recently been patented for its effect on improving hair count by an average of 42% in men and women suffering from alopecia. Please see a quote directly from the human study –

"At the end of the supplementation period, all volunteers in the tocotrienol formulation group had positive results, recording an increase in the number of hairs in the evaluation area. Seven volunteers (64%) showed regrowth of between 10-35% while 3 volunteers (27%) had 50% or greater regrowth. One volunteer had regrowth of more than 100%. The mean percentage of increase in the number of hairs is 42.4.+-.40.9% (mean.+-)."

To read the full patent, please visit here -
http://www.google.com/patents?id=AtF_AAAAEBAJ&dq=7211274

To learn more about Toco-8 visit us here –Toco-8

Thank you.

-Pp
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How long was the supplementation period?
 
how long it will last one toco-8?
 
Primordial Performance said:
It was a 5 month study.

-Pp
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Right now I am Dutasteride. I have slow down hairloss but it is stilling coming out. How do you compair it to Dutasteride? And If I was wanting to try this would you still take Dutasteride?
 
What if I'm already bald? Like inherited. I started balding at an early age of 22.
Will it put hair back on my head? What i wouldn't give to have hair again.
 
Iron man said:
Right now I am Dutasteride. I have slow down hairloss but it is stilling coming out. How do you compair it to Dutasteride? And If I was wanting to try this would you still take Dutasteride?
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Yes, you could use the two together since they both work by different mechanisms. I don’t know the clinical effectiveness of dutasteride for hair loss, but I know Toco-8 wouldn’t have any side effects remotely close to it.

Since the action of Toco-8 is not based off of dihydrotestosterone reduction, there wouldn’t be any concern of gynecomastia.

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
Yes, you could use the two together since they both work by different mechanisms. I don’t know the clinical effectiveness of dutasteride for hair loss, but I know Toco-8 wouldn’t have any side effects remotely close to it.

Since the action of Toco-8 is not based off of dihydrotestosterone reduction, there wouldn’t be any concern of gynecomastia.

-Pp
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i did duta for a year--great hair and the most miserable sides you could imagine (which is why they pulled it from clinical trials as a hair loss drug). i actually did a cycle just to feel like a 40 yo man and not a 70 year old man. i would advise everyone to try Toco 8 before duta--
 
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^^h,mm yes many people get bad sides .. i use duta and had zero sides.. i dont think its a great idea to jump into using toco ONLY if your losing hair..untill more tests are taken and results are proven .. once the hair comes out it hardd as a mofo to get back, its not like using a test product thats not as effective as another with trial and error......people here can suffer tremendously from bad results .. fact is duta and propecia work ..lets see about this.. no offense pp .. u know i love your other products so far
 
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yea, when i started the duta i should have researched it--it was tested as a male birth control. the problem is it raises natty test---which is followed by natty estrogen--in retrospect, it felt like i was on p/c/t/ for a year and although i of course can't prove it, i swear the groin pull i suffered was because of the muscle loss--never had one in 40 years. so, i decided i would rather be bald a cue ball instead of alan alda. thus, i am excited to try something new that does not lower systemic dht.
 
^^sorry to hear duta was that bad for u bro ..nothing like that for me... i cant wait to see some peoples results with this .. duta dont regrow hair for shyt for me in the hairline area but stoped the loss .. this is cheaper and if it does that i will be a happy camper
 
Primordial Performance said:
If your taking the full proven hair regrowth dose, the Toco will last 30 days.

If your just taking 1 serving a day for heart health, the Toco will last 60 days.

-Pp
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Can overdosing give even better results? or the proven dose is the maximum effective dose?
 
one more PP...:)

This product can give me hair beyond what I used to have before? or the last limit would be my original hairline?
 
DJ_UFO said:
one more PP...:)

This product can give me hair beyond what I used to have before? or the last limit would be my original hairline?
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Probably no more than your original hair line.

In the study they checked the area of the hair that was thinning the most, and the Toco increased the hair count.

-Pp
 
Even though im going to try out some of Pp's new stuff, it would be a miracle if this stuff actually stopped people with actual natural genetic hairloss, from losing anymore hair, let alone regrow some.


Studies or not, i seriously highly doubt it.


Ive been around the hairloss boards for years, and the only stuff to really give actual results stopping and regrowing hair, is Propecia, Avodart, and Minoxidil. 2% Nizoral is an add on to these but wont stop your loss by itself.


If this stuff actually worked like it says it would rival Propecia, and would be talked about on the hairloss boards by now.


I wouldnt gamble my hair on this stuff man, seriously.


Not to take anything away from you Pp, but seriously, i wouldnt want to recommend this stuff to people with genetic hairloss, without atleast a LOT more backing and proff behind this.


Before and after pictures from people using it would help, but i wouldnt bet on this being as good as Propecia for hairloss.


Who knows, this is just my opinion.
 
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SuperOne said:
Even though im going to try out some of Pp's new stuff, it would be a miracle if this stuff actually stopped people with actual natural genetic hairloss, from losing anymore hair, let alone regrow some.


Studies or not, i seriously highly doubt it.


Ive been around the hairloss boards for years, and the only stuff to really give actual results stopping and regrowing hair, is Propecia, Avodart, and Minoxidil. 2% Nizoral is an add on to these but wont stop your loss by itself.


If this stuff actually worked like it says it would rival Propecia, and would be talked about on the hairloss boards by now.


I wouldnt gamble my hair on this stuff man, seriously.


Not to take anything away from you Pp, but seriously, i wouldnt want to recommend this stuff to people with genetic hairloss, without atleast a LOT more backing and proff behind this.


Before and after pictures from people using it would help, but i wouldnt bet on this being as good as Propecia for hairloss.


Who knows, this is just my opinion.
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The Toco-8 would have a synergistic effect with the propecia for hair loss as they likely work by different mechanisms.

-Pp
 
where that name toco toco came from?

sounds like a mexican town. LOL
 
Pp, about the Taco-8, can you %100 gaurantee that a guy like me thats losing hair naturally and his hair is sensative to dihydrotestosterone, can take Taco-8 and it will stop my hairloss?


What about thickening and regrowth?



In my case i really dont want to use Propecia, but i dont want to lose hair either, and i want to use something like Primobolan - methenolone - , Winstrol, or Anavar, to harden me up alot and burn a bit of fat. Can you seriously tell me that in my case, i can use these compounds with just Taco-8, and i wont lose any hair?
 
SuperOne said:
Pp, about the Taco-8, can you %100 gaurantee that a guy like me thats losing hair naturally and his hair is sensative to dihydrotestosterone, can take Taco-8 and it will stop my hairloss?


What about thickening and regrowth?



In my case i really dont want to use Propecia, but i dont want to lose hair either, and i want to use something like Primobolan - methenolone - , Winstrol, or Anavar, to harden me up alot and burn a bit of fat. Can you seriously tell me that in my case, i can use these compounds with just Taco-8, and i wont lose any hair?
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Based on the research I can say with confidence that Toco-8 would help prevent further hair loss, and perhaps encourage growth of new hairs, no mater what the hair loss is caused by.

It’s hard to quantify the hair loss effects compared to finesteride, but I can say with certainty that you won’t experience side effects even close to what you would with a DHT lowering drug like finesteride.

If you’re very sensitive to losing your hair, you could stack the two products, and perhaps lower your dosage of finesteride down to a dose where you don’t have side effects (but still reap part of the benefits).

-Pp
 
Thanks Pp, yeah to be honest i want to get the fuck off finesteride and all drugs,ect. But i cant risk losing my hair, no way.


I dont take Finesteride without an Anti-E, and i dont like fucking with my hormones like this, i feel and look the best when im not on anything, i dont feel optimal right now.


Through which mechanism does Toco-8 prevent further hairloss and regrowth?


How would Toco-8 prevent hairloss when my hair is DHT sensative and im not lowering DHT?


And in "my" case would Toco-8 still prevent hairloss if i took DHT derived compounds like Primo, Masteron, Winny, Proviron,ect?


Thanks for the help.
 
SuperOne said:
Thanks Pp, yeah to be honest i want to get the fuck off finesteride and all drugs,ect. But i cant risk losing my hair, no way.


I dont take Finesteride without an Anti-E, and i dont like fucking with my hormones like this, i feel and look the best when im not on anything, i dont feel optimal right now.


Through which mechanism does Toco-8 prevent further hairloss and regrowth?


How would Toco-8 prevent hairloss when my hair is dihydrotestosterone sensative and im not lowering DHT?


And in "my" case would Toco-8 still prevent hairloss if i took DHT derived compounds like Primobolan - methenolone - , Masteron, Winstrol - stanozolol, Proviron,ect?


Thanks for the help.
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The tocotrienols in Toco-8 are acting by some anti-oxidant mechanism to protect the hair follicle. The research showed that this will help alopecia no matter what the cause. Perhaps it makes the hair follicle more resilient to the effects of DHT.

So to answer your question, yes it should provide protection, even from DHT related hair loss.

-Pp
 
Thanks a lot for the help Pp, that sounds like a dream come true for me right now.


Im going to give it a go, and pray it works for me in combo with a topical or two.


If it works, i own you one bro, big time.


Thanks.
 
Im going to try this out, if it doesn't work im going to shave my head like Howie Mandel.
 
its just saw palmetto berrie "fruit" extract
why is toco 8 better then any standardized sawplametto extract?
 
chazk said:
its just saw palmetto berrie "fruit" extract
why is toco 8 better then any standardized sawplametto extract?
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Its not saw palmetto (Serenoa repens)... Its a tocotrienol extraction from palm fruits (elaies guineensis)... different genus, different plant.

-Pp
 
Im naturally skeptical since this has been an issue I've dealt with for the last 15 years.



Then again, I could be wrong and you're on your way to making billions of dollars because that's how much you stand to make if what you say is true
 
What other supps do you suggest people take with this product? Saw palmetto?
If you ever come out with a reformulated version you should call it
toco-supreme
 
lartinos said:
What other supps do you suggest people take with this product? Saw palmetto?
If you ever come out with a reformulated version you should call it
toco-supreme
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For hair loss?

I have a firm belief that reducing cortisol (with EndoAmp) will also reduce hair fallout, and promote healthy hair growth by reducing cortisol.

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:


As a sponsor of Elite Fitness I’d like to announce the release of our latest product – Toco-8.

Toco-8 is a powdered tocotrienol complex extracted from Palm Fruits (elaies guineensis) and has recently been patented for its effect on improving hair count by an average of 42% in men and women suffering from alopecia. Please see a quote directly from the human study –

"At the end of the supplementation period, all volunteers in the tocotrienol formulation group had positive results, recording an increase in the number of hairs in the evaluation area. Seven volunteers (64%) showed regrowth of between 10-35% while 3 volunteers (27%) had 50% or greater regrowth. One volunteer had regrowth of more than 100%. The mean percentage of increase in the number of hairs is 42.4.+-.40.9% (mean.+-)."

To read the full patent, please visit here -
http://www.google.com/patents?id=AtF_AAAAEBAJ&dq=7211274

To learn more about Toco-8 visit us here –Toco-8

Thank you.

-Pp
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only 11 people in the study?
 
Primordial Performance said:
For hair loss?

I have a firm belief that reducing cortisol (with EndoAmp) will also reduce hair fallout, and promote healthy hair growth by reducing cortisol.

-Pp
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ya, i meant hairloss.
 
that's what I'm wondering? I was asking about it over at OL but I can't get a response from anyone. I just won an auction on ebay for some Rogaine today. I figure the more things I can add into the arsenal the off I will be to combat my hairloss. I'm thinking through some finasteride inside as well. From what I've read it about.....
33% of people it works great for
33% of people it has limited effects
33% of people it does not work at all

I'm just trying to stop what has already happen before it get any worse... My hair loss isn't cycle related either so it'll probably get allot worse when I do get on.
 
ok, just bought a couple cans. i've got some thining on my crown so let's see if that helps. currently i am running proscar and xandrox shampoo. this should be a great test.
 
I was just on for a longtime, and Ive already done about ten cycles with no hairloss at all. Near the end I think my hair started to thin near the front. no hair has ever come out when I towel dry or anything like that. I feel like I am a good candidate for my hair to come back to normal as my 88 year old grandfather on my Mom's side still had hair when he died. Whether or not it would just go back to normal post cycle anyway I don't know. I'm also taking saw palmetto as it is dht related from the long term test i was using.
 
lartinos said:
I was just on for a longtime, and Ive already done about ten cycles with no hairloss at all. Near the end I think my hair started to thin near the front. no hair has ever come out when I towel dry or anything like that. I feel like I am a good candidate for my hair to come back to normal as my 88 year old grandfather on my Mom's side still had hair when he died. Whether or not it would just go back to normal post cycle anyway I don't know. I'm also taking saw palmetto as it is dht related from the long term test i was using.
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Lartinos you say you on Toco?

-Pp
 
I have been on toco for two months. I can say that I haven't lost any more hair since starting. Might be a little thicker as well. I think it may have helped my skin as well. This is one of those things that is hard to notice.. but I will definitely stay on toco for a while. I saw a log of this a while back. I wonder how you would log this...

I still have hair today.. still have hair.. still have hair.. lol
 
Was there anyone on a cycle while taking Toco-8 during the research study? If not, would it still have the same affects on or off?
 
conundrum said:
Was there anyone on a cycle while taking Toco-8 during the research study? If not, would it still have the same affects on or off?
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None of the testers in the study where using steroids as far as I know. The cause of hair loss in all the individuals was from different causes, but the Toco helped them all.

So yes, even if you are on cycle it should help prevent hair loss.

It’s been hypothesized that tocotrienols help create new blood capillaries which encourages more blood flow to the skins surface (scalp).

-Pp
 
conundrum said:
Was there anyone on a cycle while taking Toco-8 during the research study? If not, would it still have the same affects on or off?
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I'm on cycle right now and using the Toco-8. I'm only 1 week in so it is too early to tell right now.
 
Can someone post before and after pics if they are going to be trying this for an extended period? I would be interested to see the results and especially at the front of the scalp not the crown. Curious to see if any receding is reduced.
 
I would encourage users to take photos before starting toco, so they have something to measure progress by in the future.

Remember guys, the hair loss studies where 5 months long so it may take awhile to notice a difference on the scalp. Even if Toco is not regrowing noticeable amounts of hair for you, its going to improve your cholesterol profile, help maintain higher testosterone levels, and improve arterial health.

-Pp
 
Id like to link you guys up with the a couple radio interviews on the Tocotrienols product Toco-8. This is Carl Lanore’s show over at Super Human Radio - The World's First Broadcast Radio Show Dedicated to Human Performance

In the first interview, Carl Lanore interviews Eric Potratz about the history of tocotrienols & tocopherols, and presents the patented hair loss study and benefits of the tocotrienols [Toco-8] -

Quicktime - :: Super Human Radio ::
MP3 download - http://www.superhumanradio.com/media/pr/press/TOCO8.mp3

In the second interview Eric Potratz & Carl Lanore discuss the more specific properties of tocotrienols [Toco-8] and their benefits for hair growth, hormone production, heart health, ect -

Quicktime - :: Super Human Radio ::
MP3 download - http://www.superhumanradio.com/rss/2008/SHR_Show_184.mp3

Enjoy.

-Pp
 
I think I might be a good candidate for this product and will be running for at least the next 5 months as trial.

I am currently 46 years old and my hair has started to recede slightly and also thin on my crown. It's far from "falling out" everywhere and I never see no hairs on my towel or in the shower etc so I think my hair loss is age related and cycle related.

Anyways I have committed to running Toco for the period of time as per the study and PP's advice and will ceretainly update as we go. Currently just finsihed one can in tandem with Sustain and Endo for PCT and more on the way to continue with. Hopefully will have some positive results to report back on.
 
access said:
I think I might be a good candidate for this product and will be running for at least the next 5 months as trial.

I am currently 46 years old and my hair has started to recede slightly and also thin on my crown. It's far from "falling out" everywhere and I never see no hairs on my towel or in the shower etc so I think my hair loss is age related and cycle related.

Anyways I have committed to running Toco for the period of time as per the study and PP's advice and will ceretainly update as we go. Currently just finsihed one can in tandem with Sustain and Endo for PCT and more on the way to continue with. Hopefully will have some positive results to report back on.
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Thanks access... we'll look forward to some feedback.

-Pp
 
Well I have taken toco-8 now for almost 8 months and have just used the last of the supply I had and I have to say in relation to hair loss that I have seen zero improvement. If anything at all it might have slightly worsened but certainly no improvement. I think this run has been more than a sufficient period to garner results and as reported was less than stellar which is unfortunate.
 
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