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Steroids and the Army?

A1platnum said:
yeah, i'm pretty much built like your drill sergeant. went in 135, came out a nasty 165. only guys that lost weight were the dough boys(probably u). so i guess i wouldn't have had to sustain as high a calorie count as "the dough boys". was kickin guys that lost weight azz in hand to hand. once again pretty much like your drill was kickin' yours.

not here to have a pissing contest. just know what i did in my time, and could care less what u did in yours.

Like I said boys, I'm not ragging on the Army, nor trying to get in a pissing match about Marine Recruit Training and Army basic. I was a skinny 155 in high school, right when I enlisted, and came out a skinny 145. That was 14 years ago and I thought Army basic was 8-9 weeks, I'm sorry. If anyone could have kicked the DI's ass, I would have loved to have seen it. I would have bet on him everyday of the week and doubled down on Sunday.
 
ARMY basic is 9 weeks. Some MOS have OUST(one station unit training). So it just one continuous(14 weeks for Infantry) block of training. The ARMY trains for the average Joe. If your above average you will not be pushed & lose weight & size in basic. It take great genetics to make solid gains on liquid eggs cooked in oil, two piesces of french toast & an ice-cream scooper of potatos. Then 3-4 oz of low quality meat & two small sides of carbs for lunch & dinner. Not to mention the 12+ hours between dinner(1730) & breakfast(0800) that there is no food intake. That was my basic experience. After that phase its not a bad lifestyle.
 
Ok thanks for all the input guys! I figured I'd have little chance of taking anything during basic or AIT, if I end up going like my brother did, I'll just wait till I get finished with all the training and start getting slowly jacked again when I get to a more permanent post. Also, if I go that route, I'll probably do a nice cutting stack with lots of EQ in it and end it with PCT before I go off, that way the extra RBC's should hang around for about 3 months, giving me an edge in endurance and less bodyfat and weight to lose to begin with. I figure, if guys like David Henry can get freakin' jacked and turn pro while in the Army, it certainly must be possible to juice at some point, so if I go that route I'll just wait till it's safe. Thanks for the multiple confirmations of my suspicions!
 
A1platnum said:
yeah, i'm pretty much built like your drill sergeant. went in 135, came out a nasty 165. only guys that lost weight were the dough boys(probably u). so i guess i wouldn't have had to sustain as high a calorie count as "the dough boys". was kickin guys that lost weight azz in hand to hand. once again pretty much like your drill was kickin' yours.

not here to have a pissing contest. just know what i did in my time, and could care less what u did in yours.

lol..ok bro so ur the only person ive ever met in the military to gain 30 lbs in basic training. ive met a ton of people while i was in the army and u always talk about basic. u are great i should bow to u. your body gains muscle when in a caloric deficit. i didnt know that was possible. we should start scientific experiments on you cause you're a freakin miricle. most of us hope to just hold on to or not lose to much muscle in that state. but u, na....you gained 30 pounds
 
bicepts101 said:
lol..ok bro so ur the only person ive ever met in the military to gain 30 lbs in basic training. ive met a ton of people while i was in the army and u always talk about basic. u are great i should bow to u. your body gains muscle when in a caloric deficit. i didnt know that was possible. we should start scientific experiments on you cause you're a freakin miricle. most of us hope to just hold on to or not lose to much muscle in that state. but u, na....you gained 30 pounds

watch yourself dude, wouldn't want guys in suits showing up at your door step saying the gov provides caloric deficient meals.;)

your reading way into this more than needs to be. the meals will support the standard height and weight class for that certain individual. as u can clearly see i was under-weight. 135 at any height in my eyes would be. i guess guys 200-250 were dropping weight like on crack. is it hard for you to understand that it doesn't take the same caloric intake for 135lb'er to gain weight as it would say a 195lb'er, now i know why ur a grunt. not to disrespect grunts, but some obviously need to be "foot soldiers".

so yes, i guess i can see the miracle in that. :rolleyes:
 
A1platnum said:
watch yourself dude, wouldn't want guys in suits showing up at your door step saying the gov provides caloric deficient meals.;)

your reading way into this more than needs to be. the meals will support the standard height and weight class for that certain individual. as u can clearly see i was under-weight. 135 at any height in my eyes would be. i guess guys 200-250 were dropping weight like on crack. is it hard for you to understand that it doesn't take the same caloric intake for 135lb'er to gain weight as it would say a 195lb'er, now i know why ur a grunt. not to disrespect grunts, but some obviously need to be "foot soldiers".

so yes, i guess i can see the miracle in that. :rolleyes:

Wow....I was a Forward Observer for awhile and have seen many different MOS's and I can say being Infantry is the hardest and you actually have to be the smartest. You constantly paying attention to every detail and you have to play the most dangerous game there is...out thinking the enemy. You are hunted by humans and hunting humans. Only the smartest stay alive. Sorry man but you made my CIB ( combat Infantry Badge) fucking start glowing.
 
snowyk12 said:
This amry vs. marine shit is old. I am army infantry. Boot is 9 weeks then you go to infantry school for nine more. But that has since changed and they put both boot and AIT's together. dEPENDING on the MOS your could be longer or shorter. If you gained a ton of weight in basic it seriously was not tough enough. Did you go to benning? Anyways, I was on a marine FOB in Ramadi working with marines and going out on patrols with marines fighting to get marines who are pinned down out of danger. Blah blah blah and the funniest thing is... Marine Infantry and Army Infantry get along great. Its all the Fobbits and POG's (persons other than Grunts) that fight about oh IM marines and oh Im army. Not to hijack the thread but this shit pisses me off.
Its plain and simple Grunts no matter what service all drag their dicks in the dirt and jerk off with sand. Thats why they say if you aint Infantry you aint shit. :chomp:


... Roger Dat!
 
snowyk12 said:
Wow....I was a Forward Observer for awhile and have seen many different MOS's and I can say being Infantry is the hardest and you actually have to be the smartest. You constantly paying attention to every detail and you have to play the most dangerous game there is...out thinking the enemy. You are hunted by humans and hunting humans. Only the smartest stay alive. Sorry man but you made my CIB ( combat Infantry Badge) fucking start glowing.


thats dudes a joke....

i wasnt infantry though i trained at fort knox and it was no joke. no one gains, esspecially not 30lbs i dont care how much u weight..some guys toned up and lokked better at best. you're lying thats the bottom line. i cant beleive there isnt more military guys on this site to bust this dudes full blown bullshit
 
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As a soldier in iraq i can tell you i've never been tested nor seen anyone or even heard of anyone being tested should the suspicion come up that you are taking some form. The likelyness of them actually going out of there way to do anything is going to be more work than its worth. As far as basic goes its a joke especially in this "new army" were in AIT? also a joke last i heard they didn't even have drill sgts.
 
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