Starting First Cycle (dianabol & anavar)

[Jason760]

Hello everyone. I have been doing some research and I am thinking about starting my first cycle. I am 21 years old and 160lbs.

I'm thinking about starting with dianabol for bulk and ending the cycle with anavar for cutting. Of course using liver blockers and such like milk thistle nolvadex and clomid.
I know it's better to use with testosterone as well but I don't want to use needles, so would test boosters work?

Any input or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

 

[EZ_E]

This is a bad idea, for a lot of reasons the biggest reason is that you're 21 and 2nd that you're asking of there's oral test...

Who set this up for you?

What's your height?

~EZ

 

[Jason760]

As I said I'm looking for input. I'm still doing research to find out what is the best way to go. I'm 6'1

 

[piggy234]

test pills really...why can't you just lift and diet right?

 

[Jason760]

I was debating between dianabol and anavar. But from what I know dianabol is for gaining lots of mass and bulk, and anavar is a weaker steroid that's better for cutting and strength. Is doing both a bad idea? Obviously not stacked.

And I really want to stick to oral methods. What is the best way to do it for a first time cycle?

 

[piggy234]

There's lots of things out there for mass and bulk and for cutting. you should probably stick with lifting heavy and increasing your food intake and then adding in cardio and decreasing your calories after you put some mass on. maybe add in some creatine? you're 21...

 

[Jason760]

I already use creatine for pre and whey protien for post workout.
Why is my age such an issue? And What about low dosages of either of the 2 if my age is such a factor?

If someone could give me their input on a good way to go about it instead of telling me not to do it at all that would be very helpful...

 

[EZ_E]

If you're 6'1 and weigh 160 pounds you have absolutely no business using AAS...

You need to get more educated on juice as well, which you will learn here...

A few questions;

How long have you been training?

What's your diet look like?

What's your training split look like?

~EZ

 

[oxymoron]

Dbol? Sheesh...
Dude if u stay insistent then do very light PH or sarms.
I take it u've been working out heavy ane consistent for yrs now?


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[kakakooie]

im 6'0 177lbs and i wanna start my first cycle , i can get sus,dec,test proprienate,test enanthate,testolic and testanon and testoviron. plus dbol anadrol danadrol DS. Im looking to have 15lbs after my PCT. what do you guys recommend for me and whats the dosages. Mind you my liver is great either. Id like not to stack more than one inject and one oral. feedback appreciated

 

[Rockwilder]

^^^Start your own thread please...

 

[Jason760]

Dbol? Sheesh...
Dude if u stay insistent then do very light PH or sarms.
I take it u've been working out heavy ane consistent for yrs now?


Sent using the elitefitness app.

If I was to change my mind and use sarms or a PH, what ones would you suggest or what PHs have you heard good reviews about? Seems like there is a lot out there to choose from

Thanks!!

 

[JayDiesel]

to the op and hijacker id say train and diet consistently 3 more years at the minimum then decide if u want to run aas still. look up some training programs ans diet plans for ectomorphs. then if you have natural results run a test only cycle and btw there is a new transdermal test option so you wouldn't have to use a needle.

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[Jason760]

to the op and hijacker id say train and diet consistently 3 more years at the minimum then decide if u want to run aas still. look up some training programs ans diet plans for ectomorphs. then if you have natural results run a test only cycle and btw there is a new transdermal test option so you wouldn't have to use a needle.

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Interesting, I'd be down to do a test only cycle with a transdermal method.
I am interested in PHs and SARMS, is there any more that someone can tell me about them? Any that someone recommends?

 

[stevesmi]

let me ask you this and i want to see how you answer it.

why are you 6+ feet and only 160 pounds? do you realize how skinny that is?

 

[kravmaga02]

^^^Start your own thread please...

lol yes

 

[kravmaga02]

I already use creatine for pre and whey protien for post workout.
Why is my age such an issue? And What about low dosages of either of the 2 if my age is such a factor?

If someone could give me their input on a good way to go about it instead of telling me not to do it at all that would be very helpful...

People are telling you to not run any hormones because you're young enough that you still have a sh*t ton of your own, plus I'm pretty sure you can f*ck up your natural production permanantly if you mess with them before you are fully developed hormonally. Wait a few more years if you can be a little more patient.


Try to listen to what these guys are talking about, they know their stuff...


If not, I think a SARM is probably the safest way to go. It isn't going to make you put on a ridiculous amount of mass right off the bat, it's slower, but that isn't a bad thing.

Ostarine is supposed to be good for a slow bulk. I have been using it with S-4 to recomp, and I think it has helped me maintain a lot of muscle while losing fat. I'd imagine if I had been eating a whole lot rather than working on a deficit it would have helped me bulk up.