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I started taking GH a few days ago at 2ius before bed. Been sleeping rather well with some crazy dreams. The bad part is that I'm having this terrible pain/stiffness in my lower back, as well as my neck going up into my brain.

Is this normal on GH? I used to take GH many years ago, and I never recall these effects on me. I do recall getting carpal tunnel syndrom on my wrists if I was taking too much GH, but certainly NOT what I'm experiencing now.
 
I've never taken gh my self. But I have been doing research because I plan on it. I have not read about your problem being comin. Specially at such a low dose. Do you get good gains from 2ius a day?

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I think ive heard those symptoms but usually higher dose mayve ur gh is bomb what brand

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I think ive heard those symptoms but usually higher dose mayve ur gh is bomb what brand

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Generic blue tops! Lol

My joints or hands don't hurt. Just my lower back and my neck going up into my brain..

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I started taking GH a few days ago at 2ius before bed. Been sleeping rather well with some crazy dreams. The bad part is that I'm having this terrible pain/stiffness in my lower back, as well as my neck going up into my brain.

Is this normal on GH? I used to take GH many years ago, and I never recall these effects on me. I do recall getting carpal tunnel syndrom on my wrists if I was taking too much GH, but certainly NOT what I'm experiencing now.

Ive used ALOT of HGH in my idea and never heard of that side or experienced it myself.
Are you certain your not injured??
 
Ive used ALOT of HGH in my idea and never heard of that side or experienced it myself.
Are you certain your not injured??

Haven't trained this whole week. I'm certain I'm not injured.

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Yeah i have never heard of gh causing back pain. Have u changed anything? Sleep habit? You maybe sleeping different causing the back pain. Us old fuckers get different pains from how we sleep. Both my arm keep going to sleep on me during the day. I think its becauae i am not sleeping correctly. Have you rotated or flipped ur matress lately?
 
Yeah i have never heard of gh causing back pain. Have u changed anything? Sleep habit? You maybe sleeping different causing the back pain. Us old fuckers get different pains from how we sleep. Both my arm keep going to sleep on me during the day. I think its becauae i am not sleeping correctly. Have you rotated or flipped ur matress lately?

Lol. Actually yes, I did do that. But remember, all of this started 2 days after I started the GH. Maybe this "generic" GH really isn't GH??? But then again, I am sleeping more sound and having vivid dreams.

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R ur fingers swollen? Numbness in extremities?
The problem w gh is even if it was real when ur guy got it. How did he store it? U need to eliminate number of hands that touch ur gear to eliminate issues.
 
R ur fingers swollen? Numbness in extremities?
The problem w gh is even if it was real when ur guy got it. How did he store it? U need to eliminate number of hands that touch ur gear to eliminate issues.

No, my fingers aren't swollen at all.

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Thats about the worst sign there is. Atleast for me.
 
Smokescreen --

I have been using HGH for about 6 months now and I use it on a 5 on 2 off basis with 2IUs in the morning. The body naturally produces HGH while you are sleeping so I have found it better to shoot in the morning 2IUs and then usually work out during the early evening. I would also recommend you getting your HGH tested and here is a pretty standard protocol:

The Protocol:
Inject 10 iu IM.
Have your blood drawn 3-4 hours after injecting.
Fasting is not necessary.
No strenuous activity for at least 30 min prior to test.

What level represents a "pass?" Our research indicates that injecting 10 iu IM of pharmaceutical grade HGH yields a serum level of between 15-50 ng/mL.

The test that you need to order is a Human Growth Hormone, Serum test. You can order the test at privatemdlabs for about $50. You can usually find a 15% off coupon if you look around also. After ordering the test online, you will then print off the order and take it to the nearest labcorp for the blood draw. There is no need for an appointment. You will have your results in 24-48 hours.

When mixing your hgh, be very careful when injecting the bac water, handling it in a rough manner could destroy the hgh and give you a false negative. Inject the water against the side of the vial and let it run down slowly. Store your hgh in the fridge before and after reconstituting.

By the way, where do you get your HGH?
 
Smokescreen --

Also with the Kigtropin I have been taking I really have not experienced any side affects, no puffy hands or joints (actually I have seen increased fluidity in my joints for lifting)
 
Ive just started my 1st cycle of GH using purple top 20iu vials!! already on my 4th vial, never had neck or back pain associated and i suffer from neck pain generally, i got red itchy lumps under my skin but i read about them on this forum and others and have found that they are starting to get better as time goes....

i have got sore wrists but only while i train and only on pushing exercises.
 
Smokescreen --

I have been using HGH for about 6 months now and I use it on a 5 on 2 off basis with 2IUs in the morning. The body naturally produces HGH while you are sleeping so I have found it better to shoot in the morning 2IUs and then usually work out during the early evening. I would also recommend you getting your HGH tested and here is a pretty standard protocol:

The Protocol:
Inject 10 iu IM.
Have your blood drawn 3-4 hours after injecting.
Fasting is not necessary.
No strenuous activity for at least 30 min prior to test.

What level represents a "pass?" Our research indicates that injecting 10 iu IM of pharmaceutical grade HGH yields a serum level of between 15-50 ng/mL.

The test that you need to order is a Human Growth Hormone, Serum test. You can order the test at privatemdlabs for about $50. You can usually find a 15% off coupon if you look around also. After ordering the test online, you will then print off the order and take it to the nearest labcorp for the blood draw. There is no need for an appointment. You will have your results in 24-48 hours.

When mixing your hgh, be very careful when injecting the bac water, handling it in a rough manner could destroy the hgh and give you a false negative. Inject the water against the side of the vial and let it run down slowly. Store your hgh in the fridge before and after reconstituting.

By the way, where do you get your HGH?


My doc says that GH should be tested with a IGF-1 test. Is this wrong?

And why would I have to take a massive 10iu dose to test GH?
 
Thats about the worst sign there is. Atleast for me.


I feel like total fucking ass on this "so-called" GH. This stuff cannot possibly be GH. I used to take GH for 5 years straight, and never once do I recall feeling like this, brother. This is absolutely fucking horrible what I feel.

Today, my neck/brain and my lower back/waist do not hurt as much as what they've been hurting, but they still hurt. Today I woke up with killer leg cramps that run from my butt all the way down the back side of my legs. This is the very same way I feel when I take cialis; hence why I do not take that shit anymore. I'm also feeling a bit of general malaise. This too is the same feeling I feel when I take cialis.

This stuff cannot be GH bro. This has to be some other sort of shit that wants to mimic GH. Not too long ago I went to see my endo doc. He was telling me about GHRP and "other" drugs that help release GH and thus later increase "IGF-1". He said that these "drugs" do in fact work! That they do help to release GH and later IGF-1, but that the sides are horrible. It causes horrible sides because the drug itself is "toxic". From what I'm feeling, I honestly think that I am using "some drug" that is mimicing GH, but that is NOT GH at all.

I feel lazy, unmotivated, in pain, discomfort, sore, tight, stiff, cramps, malaise and NO appetite at all! Yesterday I only ate 3 times in the whole time I was up, and I was up from 7am up until 12am.

Read what this guy says...

UK-Muscle Body Building Community - Bodybuilding Forum

People have been noticing that I look like shit and that I'm acting different. I can barely keep my head up as I type this out. All I want to do is put my head down because of the intense killer neck/brain cramps I'm feeling. Mind you I'm ONLY using 2ius per night. Jesus Christ! lol
 
Quit taking it and if the pain goes away. Start taking it again to see if it starts back up. I know it sounds stupid but its an option.
 
Quit taking it and if the pain goes away. Start taking it again to see if it starts back up. I know it sounds stupid but its an option.

I'm going to lower the dose down to 1iu and see if it helps. Really hope it does. Lol

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I started taking GH a few days ago at 2ius before bed. Been sleeping rather well with some crazy dreams. The bad part is that I'm having this terrible pain/stiffness in my lower back, as well as my neck going up into my brain.

Is this normal on GH? I used to take GH many years ago, and I never recall these effects on me. I do recall getting carpal tunnel syndrom on my wrists if I was taking too much GH, but certainly NOT what I'm experiencing now.

Did u start using test together with GH or did u bump up ur test?
I get that stiffness when I start test or when I bump up my test, but goes away in a few days.
 
I'm going to lower the dose down to 1iu and see if it helps. Really hope it does. Lol

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To me the issue is not the severity of the sides its those sides are not normal with gh. That is why i comended stoping and starting. If the sides are from that stuff its not real gh. What are the sides of albuteral? That is sold as gh.
 
To me the issue is not the severity of the sides its those sides are not normal with gh. That is why i comended stoping and starting. If the sides are from that stuff its not real gh. What are the sides of albuteral? That is sold as gh.

Albuterol sold as GH? Wouldn't I be hot and all hyped up? By the way, seems like it lasts about 12 hours. I took my 2ius last night at 11pm before bed. Slept all through the night, woke up feeling like shit with pain and all the other shit I said. By 1pm or so, most of the discomfort goes away.

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Did u start using test together with GH or did u bump up ur test?
I get that stiffness when I start test or when I bump up my test, but goes away in a few days.

No bro, I have not bumped up the test.

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My doc says that GH should be tested with a IGF-1 test. Is this wrong?

And why would I have to take a massive 10iu dose to test GH?

Smokescreen, your doc is correct that it should be an IGF-1 test and you can find some of the numbers for your age group below:

he following table shows typical IGF-1 (somatomedin -c) values for a given age. IGF-1 (Insulin like Growth Factor 1) levels are typically used to indicate the availability of growth hormone in the human body.

This table shows specific values from a specific laboratory. Due to different calibration used by the different laboratories, the IGF-1 reference values per age may differ considerably per laboratory.

Females/Males (Age) Range (ng/mL)
1-5 years 50-327
6-10 years 52-452
11-15 years 111-996 (1)
16-20 years 127-903 (1)
21-25 years 116-358
26-30 years 117-329
31-35 years 115-307
36-40 years 109-284
41-45 years 101-267
46-50 years 94-252
51-55 years 87-238
56-60 years 81-225
61-65 years 75-212
66-70 years 69-200
71-75 years 64-188
76-80 years 59-177
81-85 years 55-166
(1) Highest values at the ages of 15-16 years.

As an example lets view the values for a person in the 46 to 50 year range. The notation for the values is 94(low)-252(high). In this case we will simplify the calculation of the median as (low + high)/2, in this case (94(low) + 252(high)) = 346, 346/2 = 173.

When evaluating test results always keep the following in mind:

Always use the same laboratory and the same type of IGF-1 test. Due to calibration or differences in IGF-1 testing methods, considerable differences may result when intermixing laboratories and testing methods.
Ask for IGF-1 reference values per age for your type of test from your laboratory or testing entity.
Always test yourself before starting any form of HgH human growth hormone supplementation. You need a reference (starting) point to be able to see the impact of the HgH treatment in relation to no growth hormone treatment.
Malnutrition will cause low somatomedin-c (IGF-1) values in spite of normal amounts of circulating HgH human growth hormone.
If you think you have an extremely low or high hgh human growth hormone level consult a physician or an endocrinologist.
If your level is below the median and you experience HgH insufficiency symptoms you should definitely consider HgH supplementation.
Before administering any form of HgH human growth hormone to youths and children (anyone under 20 years of age) consult a physician or an endocrinologist. In our opinion you should not give youths or children HgH human growth hormone supplementation unless there is a medical condition that requires it, and proper medical monitoring is available.


I am assuming that the 10IUs (which is normally one vile of HGH) is used to see the spike in your HGH and IGF levels. Granted IGF testing is not an exact science, but it is one way to test credibility.
 
So you wrote?
Yourself?
Or is this a copy and paste?
If its a copy and paste which is fine i do it. But should make reference to the original author or authors.
Just trying to keep it real.


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So you wrote?
Yourself?
Or is this a copy and paste?
If its a copy and paste which is fine i do it. But should make reference to the original author or authors.
Just trying to keep it real.


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Plagirism. Lol

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By the way, I feel much better today. Last night I only took 1iu instead of 2ius. My lower back and neck/brain don't hurt, but I can still feel a little something going on. What's important is that I feel better. Someone this morning even commented that I seemed "cheered up". Yes I do! Because I don't feel like nasty shit anymore. Lol

Now I'm wondering if I should take 1iu before bed and 1iu when I wake up? Or keep taking this 1iu before bed for a couple of weeks more and then add the additionel 1iu before bed?

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I would get another brand of growth, that's not normal for growth to give u those sides. I'm on 5iu a day with no problem. Switch it up and see.
 
I would get another brand of growth, that's not normal for growth to give u those sides. I'm on 5iu a day with no problem. Switch it up and see.

You jumped straight to 5ius per day? Or did you slowly increase your dose?

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So you wrote?
Yourself?
Or is this a copy and paste?
If its a copy and paste which is fine i do it. But should make reference to the original author or authors.
Just trying to keep it real.


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Going on 4T, good call, since this is health we are talking about I think we need to be real as possible. This was a copy paste from a link I got on bodybuilding.com. I can try and confirm the credibility beyond that but on that forum there were tons of positive reviews. I won't make this mistake next time is plagiarism (not to mention false information) can be dangerous so this will not happen again. Thanks for catching my mistake.
 
Smokescreen, Im no doctor but I would believe that what you are experiencing is pain caused by your central nervous system. You naturally produce hgh when you are in rem3 sleep. That can happen up to 7 times a night. (Think of it this way, you are stacking hgh with your natural production). My question for you is why did you decide to take kigtropin before bed instead of recommended times of the day? Also, i would go to a chiropractor and or message therapist. But the last thing I would do is stop taking it and waste your money. You said previously you went down to 1iu and it helped your sides go away. How are you feeling now and have you bumped back up to 2iu or more and or made any changes? Thanks
 
To be honest I took it once and I didn't find that it didn't do much for me, it must have ben a bad batch. I wonder if that is what happened, maybe you could PM me and give me some info and some prices on the particular gear.
 
To be honest I took it once and I didn't find that it didn't do much for me, it must have ben a bad batch. I wonder if that is what happened, maybe you could PM me and give me some info and some prices on the particular gear.

this thread is 3 years old man
 
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