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stanozolol

2scoops

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Got stanozolol from genepharm @ 5mg Tabs
gonna run 30 mg a day for 6 weeks is this worth doing and what sort of effects will this have. Training and diet are good . This will be my first cycle. thank you.
stats 6'1
weight 190
age 33
 
If you already have been training and have muscle and if your body fat is low, you will see improved hardness and tone. You will not gain much in the way of "new muscle". You will improve the hardness and tone of existing muscle.
Keep your protein intake high, sugars and sodiums low. Look into things you can do to protect your liver. Milk Thistle or a Liver Detox like Tylers.

There are other anabolics you can consider for a first cycle besides winny, and get bigger. Are you trying to get big or just cut existing muscle?
 
Thanks. I want to add some new muscle.
A guy at the gym told me to take these and said that they will improve my strengh and add a little bit of size, with no sides.
I wanted to do sus 250 every 4 days but he said that i would bloat up and to stick with orals for a while.
What would be a good second cycle once i have finished the winnie.
 
Here is my suggestion, take it or leave it. The guy at the gym may just have too many Winny tabs and he wants to unload them on to you. I have no vested interest in what you do, so take my suggestion as a grain of salt.

Run Sust250 (weeks 1-8) 250mg one shot per week

30mgED Win (weeks 3-8) If you insist on the Winny

So this will throw some test in the mixture and use the Winny in the last 6 weeks with the Sust. The sust blend is active in your body for about 3-4 weeks so one shot each week will gradually increase the amount of test in your system over the 8 week period.

Now if you like how your body responds you can safely up the dose to 500mg a week next cycle. It is my opinion going with Winny on a first cycle is waste of time. Now if you just want orals and you want to get BIG you should get Dbol before Winny. Both tabs are liver toxic and you need to include Milk Thistle and Tylers Detox in your plan.
 
Should I ditch the winnie. I am still only 6 days into the cycle.
Maybe wait a couple of weeks and then do a sus 250 a week for 8 weeks with dianabol from weeks 1-4 with nolva
any ideas!
 
2scoops said:
Should I ditch the winnie. I am still only 6 days into the cycle.
Maybe wait a couple of weeks and then do a sus 250 a week for 8 weeks with dianabol from weeks 1-4 with nolva
any ideas!

Well, IMO, yes. Or run the winny until you get the sust. If you are only in 6 days I would evaluate your goals and what you are taking. Sust + Dbol is good stack and better than winny only for getting big.

You could save the winny to cut with after you run a sust dbol cycle. Bulk first and then cut with cardio, diet, and drugs like winny.

It is your body bro, and I did not mean to rain on your parade. Just my opinion that winny only for first cycle is a waste of time.
 
so my cycle should look like this
sus250 once a week for 8 weeks
dbol 20 mg a day weeks 1-4
any anti e's nolvadex at what dose?
and any help with post cycle therapy would be golden!

Also what should i roughly expect from this cycle.
 
I would keep nolv. on hand just in case gyno symptoms start to show up start takeing the nolv. at 20mg if you feel you need more go up to 40mg. For post cycle take clomid 2 weeks after your last shot at 50mg a week for 2 weeks(some people are going to say that this is not a good enough doseage)
 
In most cases a dose of sust250 weekly will not need any anti-e. Start clomid 3 weeks after last injection of sust.
Have nolva on hand just in case (probably won't need).

I have seen first timers gain 15-20lbs with dbol and sust over an 8 week period. Alot of them keep 10+ when all is said and done. It is a good place to start and see how your body reacts and make sure training and diet are "dialed-in".

After your bulking cycle start a cutting regimine which includes diet, cardio, and winny or var.
 
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