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Stacking 1-AD with DBOL

great minds think a like...i was thinking bout doing this but got laughed at

here is my thought...

Dbol for 5 weeks...short half life, great pumps...25 mgs a day

1-Test prohormone by kilosports (same as 1 -ad) now everyone rips prohormones, but this stuff works...so im told combined with dbol could provide solid results

Creatine- should be a bloated motherfucker but hell its a bulk cycle

Aka- for the liver and carb intake

Glutamine

cranberry for the kindneys

LPC- saw it here, heard it works well for better absorption

whey of course

novelex- keep the estrogen down

Flax seed oil

zinc - raise test lower estrogen


and Clomid after

now if done right with a high protien intake...i could see a cycle like this provideing a good solid 10 to 20 pounds sure some will be water, but the anti e's will help with this

silly or not
 
Damn good thinking my man, I've done 2 cycles of 1-AD/w 4-AD. Pumps were good, strength near the end of the 6 week cycle was insane.

Post cycle lost a lot of strength. I taperd off 1-AD as well.

I'm now on my 3rd week of dbol @ 30mg e/d. Pumps are amazing, gains are crazy, strength is good so far..

the beauty of 1-AD is it made me eat like a horse! I don't know what they put in there but christ. I was wondering about this, we need Pardeus or Patrick in here to answer this. Would if be too hard on the liver?

BTW, 1-AD took a long time for me to get my libido back, I would recommend clomid post cycle.
 
Hight Intensity... don't see why you would get laughed at unless the person laughing was ignorant or had no idea what he was talking about. I gained a lot of weight w/ the 1AD, 16 pounds to be exact in 5 weeks. D-bol is very similar in the sense that you will gain a lot of weight in a short amount of time. That's why i wouldn't combine the 2. I would however combine it w/ something that takes a few weeks to kick in, that way you already have the gaines from the 1-Test or 1AD and when your gains end w/ that you'll be ready for another take off. Know what i mean?

Lets say you take 1-Test or 1AD for 4-5 weeks and gain 10 pounds. You can combine it w/ some test and when you're tapering off the 1AD the test will start to kick in and you'll be gaining even more after that point. I would stay away from Deca though w/ the 1Test/1AD and go w/ something that converts to estrogen. so no fina or deca IMO.
 
christ i help so many people on here, no answers bullshit
 
Bro.. how can you get pissed? Most of these people have not used AS, and still there's a big chunk of them still trying out how to dose creatine. And I'm sure if you go to the Anabolic board they wont know too much about 1AD, or you'll get laughed at.

What I stated was an example that made sense to me. How many times have you seen people stack D-bol w/ Deca, or Test, EQ, etc. Reason they do that is the same reason I'm saying to use the 1AD and stack it w/ something that will kick in when the 1AD is starting to wear off. You don't hear too many people taking D-bol w/ Anadrol do you? What you take is your choice... that's just my .02 cents on the matter.
 
i got you risky, just wanted to here more

i think if you did it this way though....

dbol weeks 1-5 25mgs

then 1-test (1ad) weeks 3-8

you would have the kick start of the dbol and then just slowly tapper off week by week with the 1-test

clomid bringing ur natural test back up
 
I think your cycle looks pretty solid HighIntensity and the weight gains are easily attainable. I gained 18 pounds in 5 weeks from 1-AD/4-AD. My bench went from 285 1x to 315 4x in the same period.

BTW, 69Muscle my libido did the same thing. I thought I'd have an amped sex drive but it went down ever since I was on and I think it's just now "starting" to get back to normal - after 3 weeks off. :(

Also, the biggest thing my workout partner and I noticed on the 1-AD was that it helped lubricate the joints. My shoulders had never felt better. Now that I'm off.....pain. :mad:
 
Mv i too had slightly less shoulder pain w/ 1AD... shoulder was my biggest problem. I gained a good 16 pounds off 1AD, You're the first i hear who made it to 18 pounds. What doses were you using? Sex drive started slippin but when i threw in the 4AD it went haywire and couldn't control all the boners. lol. Worst of all is working and walking around worrying about that.

I'll bump again for Cozmo and Highintensity to hear other bros opinions...
 
I dunno, I don't think I'd stack them both together. If anything I'd say 1-AD and dbol are kinda similar, with 1-AD being weaker. Are you against any other AS? Deca works pretty well with Dbol, you're more likely to keep you gains and you'll be less bloated.

1-AD bloated me up pretty good when I took it. just my .02, I don't claim to be an expert, I only play one on TV.

make sure like people said to have clomid on hand if you're using dbol.
 
That's one thing I would not stack together is Deca w/ 1Test... talk about low or no sex drive... I have yet to try Deca and D-bol... I gotta get a job and drug tested first... and of course some money...:p
 
I agree with riskybizz on the low sex drive thing. I didn't think about that. Also, I wasn't very consistent on the use of the 4-AD. I had BioTest AndroSpray and didn't use it that often. Also, in regards to the 18pounds, I had done a carb deplete the week before I started. It gave me an AWESOME feeling once I starting the 1-AD, creatine and 4k calories a day immediately after I got off the carb deplete. I gained back the inch I lost in the waist but no more. 1" on the arms and 1" on the legs.

Nature Boy - alot of my weight gain was also bloat but I got tremendous pumps.
 
Dbol for 5 weeks...short half life, great pumps...25 mgs a day
How about 40mg's per day for 4 weeks?
1-Test prohormone by kilosports (same as 1 -ad)
Are you sure it's the same thing?
Creatine- should be a bloated motherfucker but hell its a bulk cycle
Try Swole.
Aka- for the liver and carb intake
What is this, do you mean ALA?
cranberry for the kindneys
If you were taking fina, then yes. You shouldn't need this IMO.
LPC- saw it here, heard it works well for better absorption
Yes, but hard on the stomache. Try taking this stuff with grapefruit juice.
novelex- keep the estrogen down
Go with Arimidex.
zinc - raise test lower estrogen
Well, it will raise testosterone under certain conditions, however, I'm pretty sure it won't have any impact on E.
I don't mean this as a slam, just trying to help, bro.
 
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