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Speaking of VPX Redline...

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TC2 said:
Damn that is some strong shit, I'm talking about the liquid, I dont know about the pills.

That is all, time to run through a wall.
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Any other OTC shit people reccomend pre-workout?

I used to use that ultimate orange stuff (had a few extra cans in the cabinet that ran out recently)... but that is off the market now I guess.... too bad cause I used to get that good running through the wall feeling with that too, and it was pretty cheap...

The VPX stuff sounds good, but it is pricey though just for some synphedrine/caffiene (probably more expensive cause of the gugglesterones?)...

Any feedback on EAS thermodynamix (green tea, caffiene, synphedrine), or something like the universal energy pak (caffiene, guarana)?

I'd like something with a bit of ephedra or something in it, not just straight caffiene....

???
 
btw killah bee sucks cock. that is all.
 
That Stimulant X shit from AnabolicX works really well...I used to use the Ripped Fuel with the ECA stack, but since its been taken off the market, this Stim X stuff is the best thing I have tried.....
 
sawa-

no bro, not against ephdrine HCL or caffiene at all... actually I think the ultimate shit I used to take had caffiene in it as well as ephedra.... alone though caffiene doesn't really do much for me, unless I take a lot, then I just get a headache...

one thing I did like about ephedra was the bronchioldialtor effect... I was wondering if the synphedrine does that too (I don't know shit about it)

ephedrine HCL (which I know does bronchialdialate), caffiene and synphedrine all sound like great ingredients to a product, I just don't want to be mixing and matching them myself...

really the thing I liked was that the shit I was taking was already mixed, you just put it in some water and drank it... I wanted to see if there was anything other than VPX bros reccommended... that did sound good, just a little pricey...

but I do want something that will get me that charged up feeling, not some diet shit that is going to make me feel all warm, sweaty and dizzy and then by the time I get to the gym I feel all dried out and tired...

you know what I mean?

sawastea said:
Are you against ephedrine HCL and caffeine? You can obtain synephrine HCL for dirt cheap, as well as EGCG. Peep this:

* Pure ephedrine HCL
* Caffeine
* Synephrine HCL
* EGCG
* Sesamin

Note: I have not seen lab results from the AF Store in regards to their EGCG and Sesapure, though I have linked it.
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Becoming said:
btw killah bee sucks cock. that is all.
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where the hell ya been?

hows the training going?
 
Becoming said:
sawa-

no bro, not against ephdrine HCL or caffiene at all... actually I think the ultimate shit I used to take had caffiene in it as well as ephedra.... alone though caffiene doesn't really do much for me, unless I take a lot, then I just get a headache...

one thing I did like about ephedra was the bronchioldialtor effect... I was wondering if the synphedrine does that too (I don't know shit about it)

ephedrine HCL (which I know does bronchialdialate), caffiene and synphedrine all sound like great ingredients to a product, I just don't want to be mixing and matching them myself...

really the thing I liked was that the shit I was taking was already mixed, you just put it in some water and drank it... I wanted to see if there was anything other than VPX bros reccommended... that did sound good, just a little pricey...

but I do want something that will get me that charged up feeling, not some diet shit that is going to make me feel all warm, sweaty and dizzy and then by the time I get to the gym I feel all dried out and tired...

you know what I mean?
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You're acting lazy bor. You get four bottles. Start off by taking 1 serving of ECS daily (25mg E, 200mg C and 2 caps synephrine HCL (20mg)) to assess your tolerance and then, after a few days, up it to two-three servings per day, separated by AT LEAST 4 hours apart (ephedrine's half life is 4hrs). Drink plenty of fluid (i.e. water) as caffeine is a diuretic. You can take 3 caps EGCG starting from day one. The antioxidant effects of EGCG is fantastic. Read the thread I linked.
 
Erzulie said:
where the hell ya been?

hows the training going?
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busy with school (speaking of, got to get to class in a few)

lifting is going good, as long as I get in the gym (exam weeks are a bitch)

the switch was going good for a while, got up to 385x7, 405x6 bench, but then I got exams and them a cold/flu...

otherwise things are proceeding okay... my hamstrings still suck though (maybe I just got a huge ass)


thanks for the thread sawa, I will look into just making it up myself... per your recs....

thanks also for the rec bullet, I will look into that too...
 
stilleto said:
do you have anything that we don't already know?
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nope. i pretty much only know what people tell me.

:)
 
Becoming said:
busy with school (speaking of, got to get to class in a few)

lifting is going good, as long as I get in the gym (exam weeks are a bitch)

the switch was going good for a while, got up to 385x7, 405x6 bench, but then I got exams and them a cold/flu...

otherwise things are proceeding okay... my hamstrings still suck though (maybe I just got a huge ass)


thanks for the thread sawa, I will look into just making it up myself... per your recs....

thanks also for the rec bullet, I will look into that too...
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Damn thats a good Bench!

whatcha doing for hams? shoot me a pm! My hams seem to grow like weeds.. lol! well i guess that would be my legs in general. I wish i had the upper body strength to match.
 
Smurfy said:
Cardio Breeze is a grea stimulant that DOES NOT give you the heart palpitations or make you feel edgy or shakey. I love it.
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oh yea.. I agree! I love that shit
 
Erzulie said:
oh yea.. I agree! I love that shit
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totally. the thing I love about it (and believe me Im a former ephedra junkie literally - hekllo 18 hydroxycuts a day) is it gets you up to that certain LEVEL, but not beyond. I think its that beyond point where those nasty side effects come in like heart palpitations, shakes, etc. When I take Cardio Breeze, I get the stimulant benefits and I dont even realize Im on an upper until I notice that at 5am I can go balls out at the gym with no problems. It's fantastic for endurance and energy. Highly recommend it.
 
Smurfy said:
totally. the thing I love about it (and believe me Im a former ephedra junkie literally - hekllo 18 hydroxycuts a day) is it gets you up to that certain LEVEL, but not beyond. I think its that beyond point where those nasty side effects come in like heart palpitations, shakes, etc. When I take Cardio Breeze, I get the stimulant benefits and I dont even realize Im on an upper until I notice that at 5am I can go balls out at the gym with no problems. It's fantastic for endurance and energy. Highly recommend it.
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and there's no crash! I hated taking ephedria because i'd have a few hours of crazy energy and then I'd crash big time... to the pt where i couldn't even function. I'm a giddy hyper bitch on Cardio Breeze.. lol. I am sure if my family and SO knew Ulters addy they'd send him a thank you card. ;)
 
dude if I took something called cardio breeze everyone would think I was :rainbow:
 
Becoming said:
Any other OTC shit people reccomend pre-workout?

I used to use that ultimate orange stuff (had a few extra cans in the cabinet that ran out recently)... but that is off the market now I guess.... too bad cause I used to get that good running through the wall feeling with that too, and it was pretty cheap...

The VPX stuff sounds good, but it is pricey though just for some synphedrine/caffiene (probably more expensive cause of the gugglesterones?)...

Any feedback on EAS thermodynamix (green tea, caffiene, synphedrine), or something like the universal energy pak (caffiene, guarana)?

I'd like something with a bit of ephedra or something in it, not just straight caffiene....

???
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Honestly bro..I've used the eca stack and all its variants, but that redline shit is crazy.
 
Smurfy said:
omg you're not? i was going to say DAMN YOU BENCH A LOT FOR A GAY GUY.
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You must spread some Karma around before giving it to Smurfy again.

Oh shit was that funny...
 
Becoming said:
busy with school (speaking of, got to get to class in a few)

lifting is going good, as long as I get in the gym (exam weeks are a bitch)

the switch was going good for a while, got up to 385x7, 405x6 bench, but then I got exams and them a cold/flu...

otherwise things are proceeding okay... my hamstrings still suck though (maybe I just got a huge ass)


thanks for the thread sawa, I will look into just making it up myself... per your recs....

thanks also for the rec bullet, I will look into that too...
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I hamstrings suck immensely. I have dominant quads and a serious ghetto ass from heavy lunging and squatting. I have tried everything imaginable for hamstrings and they just don't grow. The weird thing is that when I am sitting down they look awesome, but when I stand up they look pathetic.
 
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