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I saw this one kid "maxing out" a few sets on his bench one day. He hardly goes halfway down, though. So one day I ask him how much can he bench. He says "375". I say "A full rep?". He says "Yep". I ask "What is a full rep to you, because last time I saw you bench you only went halfway down". He says "That's how I bench, man.". I ask "How is that a full rep?"

He goes on and shows me how when the arms are pulled back a little bit, that's when the pectorals are FULLY stretched, so that's how he benches.

.......WTF!! I want some feedback about that over here please. I think this kid's a friggin retard, and not only because of what I said above, but because the way he trains is GOD-AWFUL and he calls himself a Bodybuilder. And he acts like he's the friggin shit around the gym. And I'm not the only one who thinks he's on steroids. If you're on roids, do everything right, dammit!

DAMMIT! I hate that kid!
 
Twoguns said:
Punch him in his fucking mouth. You will feel a lot better. (make sure there are no witnesses).
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i agree, and i hate when guys do have reps and think theyre stronger than evereryone
 
homo's i see guys at my student rec who do this all the time. i hate all of them. i love the guys who can curl like 135 with their whole body and when i ask them to do strict movement they can only do like 85 lbs. lol what a bunch of homos. go join special olympics
 
I love the noodles that load the bar with 405 and squat 1/8 of the way down and then rack it, then they walk away like they are some badass or something.
 
It's no different than when you see the guy with 225 on the bench and has his buddy helping him on every one, helping a lot. Then that guy tells everyone he works out with 225.
 
i dont even train with a partner bc i hate ppl. i train by myself and use the smith machine if i know im gonan go really heavy.
 
Funny you mentioned the half way down on the bench thing. I have seen more and more young kids doing bench this way. I'm 46 and have been lifting for 23 years so I'm obviously old school. But I just don't see the point of the half way down thing. Is this like a new trend?
 
my boss who i lift with from time to time cause i like his gym can barely get 225 of the rack just told me he got 315 for a max becnch th e other day. This guy is probably 6'1" and 250 at like 28%bf he is just crazy,he tries every "mass stack" in the mags and has blown out his back and a couple weeks ago his rotator cuff he tries too hard to look good but he keeps going backward. he tries to lift with me, i have legit 365 bench and have deadlifted 450 for reps at 200lbs 13%bf so i tell him to take it easy and drop some weight but the joker doesnt listen, people like that should be smacked when they get hurt.
 
Funny just had this exact same talk with one of the guys in my gym. I'm sure every gym has these people. Whats even sadder is when they do half reps or even LESS on a machine. I mean fuck I have pretty long arms (6'2) but I ALWAYS bring the damn bar down to my chest, what the fuck is the point in doing something half way? Their range of motion is going to be fucked.
 
and looking at him, with bacne, a deeep voice (from test), and a bloated lean look i can tell he's on roids. this kid's 18. and another thing! he calls himself a bodybuilder but when I asked him he said he doesn't deadlift and he doesn't work calves ""Cause it's all genetic!"... OMFG!!!!!!!!! I hate this kid! And he talks all badd! Thinks he's badd!! Dammit I just had to let some more steam out! Thanks guys!
 
bluetwistedsteel67 said:
You should be on tren for sure.
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lol prob am gonna be next cycle. im on week 3 of my first cycle right now. 300 mg of test e a week and 40mg of dbol a day till end of next week. AIFM should be in mail soon
 
i dont go all the way down on flat bench due to shoulder probs

I really dont pay attention to the tools in my gym unless they get in my way
 
hell i go all the way down but avoid lockout. You want the BEST FULL range of motion you can get with any lift you do but hace strict form and control of the weight.
 
trickster6487 said:
hell i go all the way down but avoid lockout. You want the BEST FULL range of motion you can get with any lift you do but hace strict form and control of the weight.
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that is why i mostly use dbs
 
head phones are great... it's funny as all get out..

i do strict form, low weights, high reps (last 4 months) and guys will do the rocking thing with the ez curl.. I just smile and keep working... 5x20... then 2 weeks later you see guys doing the same thing that i have been doing..

funny..
 
rompperstomper said:
next time he is benching stand over him and push the bar down to his chest .then see if thinks he is the shit after that
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haha. i can see it now. Breaking news today, a young man was found guilty of killing another man in the gym bc the pussy said he could bench 315 so the guilty man pushed the bar all the way down and the bar stopped the mans heart. In other news, anna nicole smith was buried in my backyard.
 
I load up the bench with 7 plates on each side. Then I just sit on the bench for an hour and let everyone stare at me like that's the weight I workout with and I'm just resting between sets. Of course the weight never even leaves the rack. I just figure that they'll assume I do my sets while they're doing theirs. I'm such the trickster.
 
BigCracker said:
I load up the bench with 7 plates on each side. Then I just sit on the bench for an hour and let everyone stare at me like that's the weight I workout with and I'm just resting between sets. Of course the weight never even leaves the rack. I just figure that they'll assume I do my sets while they're doing theirs. I'm such the trickster.
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hahaha, ive seen that done before.
 
BigCracker said:
I load up the bench with 7 plates on each side. Then I just sit on the bench for an hour and let everyone stare at me like that's the weight I workout with and I'm just resting between sets. Of course the weight never even leaves the rack. I just figure that they'll assume I do my sets while they're doing theirs. I'm such the trickster.
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that is awesome BC. gotta try that.
 
I saw the exact same thing a few years back at my gym,not one to talk to people at gym I dont know,but couldnt take it after seeing it a few times,I was constructive in explaining full R.O.M. to the guy,he did it for like 1 workout after that,and then went back to his old lame ass way.
 
I agree w/ all of you on how far you should take the bar. But I know in personal training classes that's what they teach; at least the one's I've attended. They say when your upper arms become parallel to the floor that is sufficient. Any more and you're over stressing the shoulder. Who knows? Maybe but I can't stop going all the way.
 
They call it Static Contraction Training..lifting in your strongest range with partial range of motion, so you can lift more...tried it, it sucked...going to try bigcracker's technique..maybe throw some water over my head, take a nap on the bench..etc..
 
thegoodfoods said:
I saw this one kid "maxing out" a few sets on his bench one day. He hardly goes halfway down, though. So one day I ask him how much can he bench. He says "375". I say "A full rep?". He says "Yep". I ask "What is a full rep to you, because last time I saw you bench you only went halfway down". He says "That's how I bench, man.". I ask "How is that a full rep?"

He goes on and shows me how when the arms are pulled back a little bit, that's when the pectorals are FULLY stretched, so that's how he benches.

.......WTF!! I want some feedback about that over here please. I think this kid's a friggin retard, and not only because of what I said above, but because the way he trains is GOD-AWFUL and he calls himself a Bodybuilder. And he acts like he's the friggin shit around the gym. And I'm not the only one who thinks he's on steroids. If you're on roids, do everything right, dammit!

DAMMIT! I hate that kid!
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I watched the strongest man competition during the NFL pro-bowl week and they bench 225 for max reps. Some of these guys had a total bar travel of six inches. I'm saying to myself " I could 40 reps too if that's called a rep".
Of course, I wouldn't tell them to their faces.
 
genman said:
I watched the strongest man competition during the NFL pro-bowl week and they bench 225 for max reps. Some of these guys had a total bar travel of six inches. I'm saying to myself " I could 40 reps too if that's called a rep".
Of course, I wouldn't tell them to their faces.
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guys that use bench shirts!!!! can;t go all the way down. so he,s not doing it wrong if hes use to a bench shirt method!! besides 375lbs is nothing to sneeze at. we do this when and after we maxed out and do negatives half way down. not that it wrong but just another method.
 
how about the guys in the gym, who have there backs arched so high of the bench, it looks like they want to f$%k the cielings. :evil:
 
Saw two guys in my gym with the "tickets to the gun show" (arrows pointing to the biceps) t-shirts on. Please dont tell me anyone here has this shirt in their closet. :)
 
you guys are killin me, two things, fuck maxing out anymore i did 365 just to see and hurt my shoulder it sometimes slips out of place, i got the lift but i wont max again cause i dont really care and i lift for looks anyway not strenght. 2-Target sells a t-shirt with a stick figure with huge arms that says"ya the cops just pulled me over for these guns"
 
trickster6487 said:
i dont even train with a partner bc i hate ppl. i train by myself and use the smith machine if i know im gonan go really heavy.
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I'm with you on this one. If you've got the right motivation, knowledge, and strength, a training partner just gets in the way!!
 
rock75 said:
It's no different than when you see the guy with 225 on the bench and has his buddy helping him on every one, helping a lot. Then that guy tells everyone he works out with 225.
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What are you trying to say?

hahahahaha
 
I disagree. The right training partner could make the difference in your gains. The training partner I have now really pushes me and my gains are going up. Again, it is a personal preference. I bet if I trained with you guys on here we would be #1 and #2 in the Olympia. I would be #1 of course. :)
 
I may sound like a douche who doesn't get the humor here. But, I think that stopping before full range can be dangerous depending on your structure- especially with a lot of weight. I just feel that it's more natural to go all the way down and slowly push out of the bottom (controlling it anyway, not jerking). I think there's just too much force on the pecs when they are in a weak position to stop the movement unnaturally or to jerk in any way at the bottom. That's how injuries happen IMO.


Jacob
 
bluetwistedsteel67 said:
you fuckers are all on tren aren't you? haha. I am and I hate everybody. But, I never ask some dude how much he can bench because i really don't give a shit.
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i agree with you on how you dont give a shit about other people in the gym.... but im about to run tren starting saturday and your makin me a little worried lol
 
jacshelb said:
I may sound like a douche who doesn't get the humor here. But, I think that stopping before full range can be dangerous depending on your structure- especially with a lot of weight. I just feel that it's more natural to go all the way down and slowly push out of the bottom (controlling it anyway, not jerking). I think there's just too much force on the pecs when they are in a weak position to stop the movement unnaturally or to jerk in any way at the bottom. That's how injuries happen IMO.


Jacob
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No full range of motion=partial muscle stimulation=sloppy physique.

My lard ass friend loaded 405 on the incline the other day and asked me to spot him. He cut each rep short 4-6 inches above his chest. He banged out 10+ with shitty form. Afterwards he asked me how many he got. I said "I think you got 11, but it only counts as 6 cuz you pussed out and didn't do full range of motion" He didn't like hearing that-but this is the same guy that wonders why it is that when he diets he never gets the refined look the judges want.
 
a creed said:
I hate people who can't fukin mind their own business in the gym....................
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exactly. leave me alone when im training - don't even look at me. i look at no one cus im too busy looking at myself. i guess im too narcissistic.
 
a creed said:
I hate people who can't fukin mind their own business in the gym....................
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No, you don't understand. This guy works at the gym and while I was walking out he kinda started up a conversation, so while it was going on I brought up his bench. He and many others know that I love talking about bodybuilding so it's not unusual for me to go on and on about lifting. We were standing there for like 25 minutes just talking about how we both lift and eat and cut and stuff. I wasn't invading his privacy by just talking about lifting, man.

THIS is the kinda guy who can't be to himself in the gym. HE'S the one praddling on in the gym and tries to show off his whack-ass training style.

And I AM the kinda guy to mind his own business while working out. I'm focused. I see people I know and most of the time I pretend they're not even there. I talked to him while walking OUt of the gym, not working out.

JUST THOUGHT I'D MAKE MYSELF CLEAR...................
 
There is a jackass just like that in my gym. The guy mostly talks the whole time he's in there about what he's on how much he's taking. How he's getting so much stronger and bigger when he hasn't gone up in weight in a year and the only growth he's got is massive acne. I call him pizzaback whenever he tries to talk to me. Some of the shit he say's he's on is retarded. Last time he told me he was taking test,deca,dbol,anadrol,winny, igf and some other crap before I stopped paying attentio. Than he asked if I wanted him to get some gear for me and I straigh told his ass not if it makes me look like you.

Also this guy is a half repper on damn near everthing. Especially any presses.
 
thegoodfoods said:
I saw this one kid "maxing out" a few sets on his bench one day. He hardly goes halfway down, though. So one day I ask him how much can he bench. He says "375". I say "A full rep?". He says "Yep". I ask "What is a full rep to you, because last time I saw you bench you only went halfway down". He says "That's how I bench, man.". I ask "How is that a full rep?"

He goes on and shows me how when the arms are pulled back a little bit, that's when the pectorals are FULLY stretched, so that's how he benches.

.......WTF!! I want some feedback about that over here please. I think this kid's a friggin retard, and not only because of what I said above, but because the way he trains is GOD-AWFUL and he calls himself a Bodybuilder. And he acts like he's the friggin shit around the gym. And I'm not the only one who thinks he's on steroids. If you're on roids, do everything right, dammit!

DAMMIT! I hate that kid!
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Why do you care so much about what he thinks and whether he believes you or not?
 
CO B-man said:
Why do you care so much about what he thinks and whether he believes you or not?
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You are SOOO right, dude!! I should've taken that thought into (greater) consideration. I feel better.

Looking on the bright side, I get to go to the gym tomorrow :evil:
 
While I hate the word "retard" (I work in mental health/mental retardation), the term does apply quite nicely to that idiot!
 
I would say about 75% of all the people I see in the gym have poor form or cheat themselves in some other way. When they get no gains or their muscles look funky maybe then they will do more research. Even those who do lift with good form are always looking for improvement. I was really f'ing up my back with poor form on squats and I asked a friend of mine (Old schooler about 65 yo) to critique and I have not had problems since (Except when I take cialis) but everyone can always improve form its just the fool that thinks they know everything. Just my opinion. I actually think it is funny watching those I call the swingers. They are the ones that do curls by swinging their body making it look like they can curl a lot. Its pretty entertaining
 
CO B-man said:
I would say about 75% of all the people I see in the gym have poor form or cheat themselves in some other way. When they get no gains or their muscles look funky maybe then they will do more research. Even those who do lift with good form are always looking for improvement. I was really f'ing up my back with poor form on squats and I asked a friend of mine (Old schooler about 65 yo) to critique and I have not had problems since (Except when I take cialis) but everyone can always improve form its just the fool that thinks they know everything. Just my opinion. I actually think it is funny watching those I call the swingers. They are the ones that do curls by swinging their body making it look like they can curl a lot. Its pretty entertaining
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I was having lower back pain deadlifting. I asked a trainer at my gym who is a NSCA CSCS to critique my form. Well, he did. last week I maxed my dead at 405 (that is good for me) no straps and no belt. I weigh 196. The next day, no back pain, the day after, no lower back pain. I'm not afraid or ashamed to ask for help now.
 
If i see someone doing something wrong in the gym i will help them usually, if they are humble i will give them a source, but if they are assholes they will have a 50 pound dumbbell flyin their way.
 
First of all, that is the proper technique on bench if you're lifting for pure health reasons so you can’t really knock him for lifting that way. When you go past parallel it causes your ACJ to separate. This injury is even nicknamed “weight lifters shoulder”. So I can’t knock him if he’s doing it to prevent injury but at the same time he is full of shit if he claims that as his max. It’s not a full rep so it is definitely not a true max. I don’t use this technique but I have other goals.

As far as cheating goes why would anyone be upset with someone for cheating on curls? If anything I would be upset with someone who doesn’t cheat (especially if you lift by yourself). Everyone knows you reach positive failure before negative and the only way you can come close to negative while lifting alone is to cheat it back up for some good negative reps. I love a couple of cheat reps at the end of my curl sets.

A couple of legit “pet peeves” I saw mentioned were 1) When the spotter keeps continuous contact with the bar. Hell, there is no way you can gauge any kind of improvement because it is impossible to tell how much of the weight you are lifting. The slightest touch can make a huge difference. 2) When someone squatting humps the air and calls it a rep. The thing about any lift is you are more injury prone if you do not reach the point where the lever of the lift is parallel to the ground or if you go too far beyond this point. This is even truer with squats.

To be totally honest I usually don't give a shit what anyone else is doing or looks like, although occasionally I might think to myself “what a fuckin’ ass clown!” Normally if someone asks or if there’s a young kid just doing something completely wrong I will give them advice but other than that I mind my own.
 
marvelous54 said:
First of all, that is the proper technique on bench if you're lifting for pure health reasons so you can’t really knock him for lifting that way. When you go past parallel it causes your ACJ to separate. This injury is even nicknamed “weight lifters shoulder”. So I can’t knock him if he’s doing it to prevent injury but at the same time he is full of shit if he claims that as his max. It’s not a full rep so it is definitely not a true max. I don’t use this technique but I have other goals.

As far as cheating goes why would anyone be upset with someone for cheating on curls? If anything I would be upset with someone who doesn’t cheat (especially if you lift by yourself). Everyone knows you reach positive failure before negative and the only way you can come close to negative while lifting alone is to cheat it back up for some good negative reps. I love a couple of cheat reps at the end of my curl sets.

A couple of legit “pet peeves” I saw mentioned were 1) When the spotter keeps continuous contact with the bar. Hell, there is no way you can gauge any kind of improvement because it is impossible to tell how much of the weight you are lifting. The slightest touch can make a huge difference. 2) When someone squatting humps the air and calls it a rep. The thing about any lift is you are more injury prone if you do not reach the point where the lever of the lift is parallel to the ground or if you go too far beyond this point. This is even truer with squats.

To be totally honest I usually don't give a shit what anyone else is doing or looks like, although occasionally I might think to myself “what a fuckin’ ass clown!” Normally if someone asks or if there’s a young kid just doing something completely wrong I will give them advice but other than that I mind my own.
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IDK why but this is the first guy that ever really bothered/angered me in the gym. I also like to help out the people that have bad form and whatnot, especially the lucky young teenagers who chose to lift at such a young age. Hell, maybe something I say could stick with one of these kids 'till they win some competitions. I like to give good advice but some will never learn.

Dude, looking at your avatar it reminds me of when I used to look up to Tyson as a role model. He's a beast!
 
today at the gym I noticed these dudes I now refer to as the ambiguously gay duo,who were doing cable side raises and it involved full body movement, I usually dont notice other people but they were right infront of the machine I was on.

I just let people be unless they ask for help as they only hurt themselves and their injuries mean more space in the gym for me
 
theoak01 said:
I just let people be
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I like to give people advice, but don't get me wrong. As I said before I stay to myself while training, but once in awhile (about once every two weeks) I'll just help someone out and it makes me feel better.
 
CO B-man said:
Why do you care so much about what he thinks and whether he believes you or not?
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Thats what i'm thinking the whole time reading these comments, I could give a rats ass about how much the dude next to me is benching.
 
Twoguns said:
I was having lower back pain deadlifting. I asked a trainer at my gym who is a NSCA CSCS to critique my form. Well, he did. last week I maxed my dead at 405 (that is good for me) no straps and no belt. I weigh 196. The next day, no back pain, the day after, no lower back pain. I'm not afraid or ashamed to ask for help now.
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One of the so called trainers at my gym (24hr Fit), got asked by a guy who looked like he was having pain while DL'ing 95lbs. to critique his form. She gave him some advice and it was absolute SHIT advice. I felt sorry for the guy. But, for the most part I don't give advice unless asked in the gym. most people seem to have too big of ego's...even when they're not big (or strong) themselves. Sad, really.
 
I just put on my tunes, keep my head low, and my mind focused---- most of the time;

Alot of things piss me off, and most of the time I wont say anything, but when some fucker doesnt put up his weights after he is done- I always say something.
 
man, you guys are angry mother fuckers. dudes right about cheating curls, read the arnold bible for that one. i go all the way down to my chest, touch the chest without bounce and go back up, i go down easy and effieciently but not fast, you lose control that way and then push back up flexing my chest.

a friend of mine on occasion will stop the bar 1" above his chest and then go back up, to me this is still a full rep and adds more work to the muscles because you don't get the slight rest by touching the chest. i don't see a problem with this. i don't like the half reps though, thats stupid
 
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