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i havent been on EF in awhile but it sounds like your going through hell bro...ive been seeing a therapist for about 2-3 months and its really helped...the lexapro is doing a decent job too but its not "amazing" I hope you get wellHumanTarget said:
social phobia/anxiety
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ok, i'm losing count here. i am now officially thru the antidepressant family. i went thru them all. i still feel the same. i would either be way too high and manic or become almost uncontrollably angry. so, i have now moved into the "mood stabilizer" sector. this is another type of drug where it tries to improve neurotransmitter functions. given to bi-polars and people who are seizure prone. i'm really nervous about this one. i could wind up a bloated walrus. weight gain is almost guaranteed. and i am at such a nice, solid, 255lbs. right now. 20 lbs. on me to quick and i will be another chubby guy. not the Adonis i am now......whoa is me. =(
solidspine
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There are a lot of classes, eg Lucinda Basset, online and through your Psychologist,
I went through a 20 week class about 20 years ago, called the “the Change” program.
Insurance paid for it.
In a nut shell, your body, (i.e. do you have Mtrytol Valve Prolapse), diet, caffeine, affect it.
I still take meds daily but have cut them out on occasion and have also cut down.
I went through a 20 week class about 20 years ago, called the “the Change” program.
Insurance paid for it.
In a nut shell, your body, (i.e. do you have Mtrytol Valve Prolapse), diet, caffeine, affect it.
I still take meds daily but have cut them out on occasion and have also cut down.
Lamictal. a mild mood stabilizer. but i am running a seriously high manic phase right now, been 2 days. i feel like i did when i used to do coke benders. and now i am awaiting the impending doom of coming down. it's got to happen...what goes up....this is a side of 8 or 9 months of anti-D's built up in me. i was told i don't need a dry out period, but i would have liked one, regardless....Smurfy said:
solidspine
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I sort of have tried all the old and new meds,
In two separate categories and mixed
Depression and anxiety.
For me, meds just for Depression or Anxiety are effective, the meds that try to treat both are simply BS.
I take 80mg per day of Prozac for Depression
And
3-4 mg per day of Xanax for anxiety, Sometimes I will also take eneral for anxiety
Staying away from recreational drugs, booze, and caffeine helps me a lot,
In two separate categories and mixed
Depression and anxiety.
For me, meds just for Depression or Anxiety are effective, the meds that try to treat both are simply BS.
I take 80mg per day of Prozac for Depression
And
3-4 mg per day of Xanax for anxiety, Sometimes I will also take eneral for anxiety
Staying away from recreational drugs, booze, and caffeine helps me a lot,
Lamotrigine has not been shown to be effective when people experience the actual episodes of depression or mania, so other medications must be used to help people recover from these episodes. Lamotrigine is in a class of medications called anticonvulsants. It works by decreasing abnormal excitement in the brain.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/medmaster/a695007.html
there's also an important WARNING about rashes that can be caused after 2-8 weeks of tx with lamictal.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/medmaster/a695007.html
there's also an important WARNING about rashes that can be caused after 2-8 weeks of tx with lamictal.
well, that's part of the problem with meds. if you wash them out, they'll do you no good. i have people that are dypsic here and that drink or actually gulp down a quart of water in a few seconds. they actually have to weigh these guys after leaving the house or being unsupervised.blueta2 said:
blueta2
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HumanTarget said:
Juicing or detoxing will not wash out the meds if done once you have absorbed the meds. Meds are absorbed into the blood through the intestine. Once the effects get into your blood, the toxins from the meds are cleaned by the liver. These are the toxins you want to get rid of.
Just a thought...not sure this would be the best solution, but for sure trying to get some of the toxins from the meds out of your system may give you less anxiety.
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i've been asked to switch meds again. Depakote, now. from what i've read, it's more potent than the shit i was taking, the stuff that gave me tremors, loss of memory, serious muscle spasms, constant twitching and much more. my BP was 160/105 for about a week straight until i dropped it outright. i've lost count on how many med switches i've had this year.
How many different psychiatrists have evaluated you this year? if you are having terrible sucess with course after course after course of meds, then perhaps a 2nd opinion (or 3rd? or 4th?> i dont know). It's all got to be very frustrating for you.HumanTarget said:
Yeah depakote should be potent stuff for you.
supershooter
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HumanTarget said:
I havent been checking in on the thread that much lately. Sorry to see you are still having problems with getting the right meds. I really dont see the point, especially with your situation. It seems that the meds are not helping you at all. Or would you be worse without them? I have been having my ups and downs. When I first started this thread I was at my worst, but then I was feeling better for a little while. Now I am worse then ever. The human brain is a mean mother F'er. I get so tense with anxiety that I get really bad headaches and backaches, and I couldnt imagine adding the possible side effects of meds.
salemlot
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supershooter said:
Does working out help anyone? For me a hard workouts helps me with my anxiety it even makes me feel confident sometimes. You should try Effexor i saw on a commerical it helps with the aches? I take it but i dont remember ever having aches before taking it so i dont know if it helps with aches or not.
A few observations:
If you go to three different psychiatrists, you are likely to get three different diagnoses. I've seen this happen repeatedly with my own clients (I'm a psychologist). It is important not to get hung up on your diagnosis.
Panic/anxiety disorder often just disappears. We have no idea why.
Therapy can be helpful, but you may want to try cognitive/behavioral therapy rather than "insight therapy." In CBT, the therapist helps you literally change your thinking. It especially helpful with phobias.
The benefits of medication are grossly overstated. A huge percentage of people get nothing from them and, of those who do, a huge percentage are experiencing the placebo effect. It is very important not to get overmedicated. Some psychiatrists keeping adding drugs to a patient's regimen. Eventually the drugs become a problem themselves.
Beta blockers are a good way of treating the symptoms of social anxiety, since they can be taken on an as-needed basis. Psychiatrists seem reluctant to prescribe them for anxiety -- probably because they are so inexpensive. Many performers use beta blockers for performance anxiety ("stage fright").
I am curious how many of you are using AAS. I have a feeling these drugs are far more mood affecting than is realized.
I'm also curious how many of you are doing regular cardio. Multiple studies have shown that it is as effective as meds for most people with anxiety/depression.
If you go to three different psychiatrists, you are likely to get three different diagnoses. I've seen this happen repeatedly with my own clients (I'm a psychologist). It is important not to get hung up on your diagnosis.
Panic/anxiety disorder often just disappears. We have no idea why.
Therapy can be helpful, but you may want to try cognitive/behavioral therapy rather than "insight therapy." In CBT, the therapist helps you literally change your thinking. It especially helpful with phobias.
The benefits of medication are grossly overstated. A huge percentage of people get nothing from them and, of those who do, a huge percentage are experiencing the placebo effect. It is very important not to get overmedicated. Some psychiatrists keeping adding drugs to a patient's regimen. Eventually the drugs become a problem themselves.
Beta blockers are a good way of treating the symptoms of social anxiety, since they can be taken on an as-needed basis. Psychiatrists seem reluctant to prescribe them for anxiety -- probably because they are so inexpensive. Many performers use beta blockers for performance anxiety ("stage fright").
I am curious how many of you are using AAS. I have a feeling these drugs are far more mood affecting than is realized.
I'm also curious how many of you are doing regular cardio. Multiple studies have shown that it is as effective as meds for most people with anxiety/depression.
interesting. yeah, the meds are outrageous. the affects and cost. some people need them, but probably not as much. how does a heavily medicated person properly convey the side affects to their doctor or staff? usually it gets put on the back burner and if the patient complains too much, their labeled non-compliant. i'll give the cardio a shot, i should be doing more anyway.mb2 said:
supershooter
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mb2 said:
Is it safe to use beta blockers like that?
i've developed a sleep pattern that is really making my life miserable. i get home from work and almost immediately go to sleep for a few hours 3-4. then i wake and cannot fall asleep until 3-4am. and wake at 7. on top of this, i'm up to 2mg a day of xanax. everyday now. it used to be .5-.75 once every other day or so. so by Thursday, i'm wound up, irritable, unable to focus, etc. to be absolutely sick with fatigue and unable to sleep. then on the weekends, i'll sleep 15-16 hours a day. my doc says there's nothing wrong, so don't offer that.
