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So Much for a Volunteer Army

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First they do a back door draft through stop-loss and call that "normal" procedure. When was the last time the military issued a stop loss order? how about NEVER! Now we have this lil gem....

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&e=6&u=/nm/20040629/ts_nm/iraq_usa_reserve_dc


Army Defends Plan for Involuntary Troop Call-Up

Tue Jun 29, 5:19 PM ET Add Top Stories - Reuters to My Yahoo!

By Will Dunham

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Army on Tuesday defended its plan to mobilize involuntarily 5,600 retired or discharged soldiers as nothing "new or unusual," but critics said it undermines the concept of an all-volunteer military.


The soldiers will be summoned from the Individual Ready Reserve, a seldom-tapped pool of 111,000 people who remain eligible to be called to active duty for eight years after completing their voluntary Army service commitment.


Army officials said these soldiers will be deployed this year to Iraq (news - web sites) and Afghanistan (news - web sites) to fill shortages in specific jobs such as military police and civil affairs.


"It's a management tool which we've always had available to augment our forces when we need additional personnel in a time of war," said Lt. Col. Pamela Hart, an Army spokeswoman at the Pentagon (news - web sites). "This is nothing that's new or unusual."


The move is the latest sign of the strain on the military as the Pentagon struggles to maintain a larger-than-expected force of 138,000 in Iraq through the end of 2005 amid a fierce insurgency whose tenacity caught officials off guard.


Hart said the last involuntary mobilization from the Individual Ready Reserve came during the 1991 Gulf War (news - web sites), and before that in 1968 during the Vietnam War.


The Army has previously said it would prohibit tens of thousands of soldiers designated to serve in Iraq and Afghanistan from leaving the service when their volunteer commitment ends.


This "stop-loss" order means soldiers who otherwise could have retired, starting 90 days before being sent, will be compelled to remain to the end of a yearlong deployment and up to another 90 days after returning to their home base. Some may remain in the Army up to 18 months beyond when they were originally scheduled to leave the service.

'BACKDOOR DRAFT'

Rand Beers, national security adviser to Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry (news - web sites), said:

"The fact is that this involuntary call-up is a direct result of the Bush administration's diplomatic failure to get real international help in Iraq." Kerry has called the stop-loss order a "backdoor draft." The latest move shows that this back door has "swung wide open," Beers said.


California Democratic Rep. Ellen (news - web sites) Tauscher, a member of the House of Representatives Armed Services Committee, said the call-up from the Individual Ready Reserve was "a dangerous step that could bring us closer to breaking our military.


America has relied on an all-volunteer military since ending the draft three decades ago.


Retired Army Col. Andrew Bacevich, a Boston University international relations professor, worried about damage to the concept of a volunteer military and said the latest moves indicate the Army is too small for its current missions.

"These are people who used to be soldiers and no longer are," Bacevich said.

"The informal contract -- the one as understood by soldiers regardless of what they actually signed -- is that I have volunteered for a certain period of time. And once that time is up, then the choice returns to me to decide either to continue my service or to opt out. What the Bush administration is doing is just shredding that informal contract."


Bacevich said current service members may feel like they have been treated unfairly and potential volunteers may have second thoughts.

Heritage Foundation defense analyst Jack Spencer said, "It is certainly a sign of our military being stretched thin."

Relying on the Individual Ready Reserve differs from mobilizing members of the Army Reserve, Spencer said.

"It is different because these are guys who are retired. You would prefer not to have to call them up."

The Army Reserve, the better known pool of reservists, consists of part-time soldiers who regularly train together as units on weekends and in the summer.
 
I said it then, I will say it again:

IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SIGNING, DON'T FUCKING SIGN IT.


Who gets called up next? Disabled vets?
 
There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with this. These FORMER service members knew their IRR status when they left the military. It's hard for me to believe that had no idea this would be a possibility though unlikely. It just turns out that this highly unlikely chance manifested into a reality.
 
big4rt said:
There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with this. These FORMER service members knew their IRR status when they left the military. It's hard for me to believe that had no idea this would be a possibility though unlikely. It just turns out that this highly unlikely chance manifested into a reality.

No worries: just read the fine print, that's all.
 
big4rt said:
There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with this. These FORMER service members knew their IRR status when they left the military. It's hard for me to believe that had no idea this would be a possibility though unlikely. It just turns out that this highly unlikely chance manifested into a reality.

nothing wrong with it except for its not our war and dont give me the 9-11 bullshit because if thats the case let our troops stand on the corner of 5 and 9th street with a shotgun....or why not take troops from other "installations"(thats a good word isnt it...say it with me "installation"") around the world ....oh wait , the rest of the world needs america to police them because were so squared away....
 
On a completely different note, our media in Australia are now ramming the term 'homeland security' down our throats.

What the fuck? Australia doesn't have a homeland security department, nor do we need or want one. Yet the media seems to have fallen in love with the term, one dumb ass current affair show even called our defence minister 'homeland security' minister.
 
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