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So everytime I go to a strip club....

calveless wonder

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....I feel like i get more way more than my moneys worth.
odd,but true. I realized i don't have spend much to have a good time in a strip club

(disclaimer...huge rant but also solid tips)


I don't really go that often (maybe 3 or 4 times a year for the past few years if you were to average it out), but pretty much everytime I go I meet a stripper that wants to bang outside of the club. Literally everytime. i guess this is kind of my stripper manifesto

thinking about it, i probably spend more going out to a regular club here than a strip club and am not as likely to get laid.

Looking back(and at tonight)...i think i got the formula down.
the scenarios pretty much play out similar everytime.
I usually go and just relax for a drink after being out somewhere else earlier in the night with my friends. I usually go alone after my friends go to sleep or sometimes go with 1 friend...but i do better solo.

strippers will come up to me and i'll be completely indifferent to them. I bust their balls if they try to come at me with the whole stripper script(name, where you from etc etc). If they try to ask me for a dance really soon i tell them i don't know them well enough and pretty much dismiss them. Especially if they're busted i tell them i don't pay for girls i could fuck for free (slightly more tactful but the point gets across)

if they're in total hustler/money making mode they move on after they realize i'm not a sucker. But alot of the time they're bored/not making money and want someone to talk to ...or they made their money for the night and just want to have fun. By me being a slight dick, i usually get them to drop the whole stripper act and open up like a real person.

when that happens,usually end up chatting for an hour or so....have had some surprisingly good convos...and if they're not pushing for a dance i know i'm good. I also NEVER touch them or talk about sex during that time, and *gasp*, i'm honest. sometimes i buy them a drink if they're cool and being real, other times i don't if i'm not sure if they're still acting.

end result
-they want to hang out....sometimes that means do coke, sometimes that means fuck around in the back room..or both. end up paying for a dance or two (max) or just taking care of the bouncers and usually means a blowjob or sex or at the minimum a handjob. they always give me their number afterwards without asking and want to hang out outside of the club.
Only gross part....every stripper i've ever gotten with or even gotten a dance from insists on making out with me or kissing me on the mouth. at times even in front of bouncers and other customers


-coke helps, but not always neccessary. half the time they ask me to do their coke if they're into that
-being good looking and in decent shape is a big part of it...most have admitted later on to me that they were bored and thought i was cute and fun to be around. but that can work against you it seems. girls skip over you for uglier dudes to make $$ but at the same time those are probably the girls who are just about the money and less about the partying/having fun.
-the minute you call them out on the stripper script, is the minute you turn the tables on the situation.


p.s. i smell like vag and cigarettes right now
 
So in other words, the minute you start treating them like thinking, feeling human beings instead of things they respond to you positively.
 
So in other words, the minute you start treating them like thinking, feeling human beings instead of things they respond to you positively.

certainly some truth to that,
but it's not that simple.

some are still money hunging succubus (sp?) no matter what. it is their job after all.

but you still need to have qualities they are attracted to. the one thing i must admit i like about strippers is they don't hold back sexually and will tell you certain things up front after they've gotten past the past (they want to fuck, they think you're cute, how they work their game, etc). not that i'd date one but for pure entertainment purposes i have no reservations in messing with strippers.

i have a much harder time going through the bullshit fascade of courtship with a regular girl when i don't want to pursue anything with them. Most of those girls are afraid of being labeled sluts etc so they play a different angle. which is why i don't even bother to just "have sex" with a regular girl if i don't feel them on a deeper level. not worth me emotionally whoring myself out just for some vag. Only if it's genuine and i like the girl enough to pursue a relationship with, then i'm being true to myself.

with strippers it's different, no red tape...
 
I'm confused, do you treat strippers like human beings or not?

Maybe I misread. But you say that you when you *just want to get laid* you got no issues getting ass in a strip club but you would never date a stripper. You also said that it is frustrating to you that a girl that you WOULD WANT to date won't give up her pussy "that easily".

Not trying to give you a hard time. I am trying to gain clarity about what you said.
 
fuck your "method" i just wait in the back of the strip club for however long it takes one to come out and then i casually ask "do they make asshurts in there?" and they say "how do you make an asshurt?" then BAM dirty chloroform rag and 3 hours later they wake up on their stomach saying "oh"
 
I'm confused, do you treat strippers like human beings or not?

Maybe I misread. But you say that you when you *just want to get laid* you got no issues getting ass in a strip club but you would never date a stripper. You also said that it is frustrating to you that a girl that you WOULD WANT to date won't give up her pussy "that easily".

Not trying to give you a hard time. I am trying to gain clarity about what you said.

yes i do treat them like human beings. but i make sure they do so for me first (and not like a target/sucker/etc). once you break that barrier, it's pretty easy.

and no, i don't go to a strip club "whenever i want to get laid". it's just happens to turn out that way the occasional times i do go.

The reason I would never date a stripper is because of their profession and the environment they're in, and things they have to do to earn a living. pretty simple to understand. even the ones with somewhat decent head on their shoulders still have tons of baggage. not something i'd want as a regular part of my life. that's a no brainer.
every now and then for entertainment? Sure..

where did i say I was frustrated that a girl i would want to date wouldn't give it up that easily? I think it was pretty clear and most people understood. My point is if a guy is strictly physically attracted to a regular girl (nad nothing deeper) and just wants to have sex, *most of the time* he still has to go through the courtship process as if he DID want to date her. Whether it's lying or actually "going on dates". At least in american culture.Because even if the girl wants it too she's afraid of being labeled a slut so she plays all these games to act like she's hard to get.

as far as girls i date and would want to be in a relaionship with...yes,i want them to be a challenge. as far as long term relationship and marriage material, that is a big part of what i'd look for in a partner. but not because she's playing games. because she wants to be sure about her partner
 
yes i do treat them like human beings. but i make sure they do so for me first (and not like a target/sucker/etc). once you break that barrier, it's pretty easy.

and no, i don't go to a strip club "whenever i want to get laid". it's just happens to turn out that way the occasional times i do go.

The reason I would never date a stripper is because of their profession and the environment they're in, and things they have to do to earn a living. pretty simple to understand. even the ones with somewhat decent head on their shoulders still have tons of baggage. not something i'd want as a regular part of my life. that's a no brainer.
every now and then for entertainment? Sure..

where did i say I was frustrated that a girl i would want to date wouldn't give it up that easily? I think it was pretty clear and most people understood. My point is if a guy is strictly physically attracted to a regular girl (nad nothing deeper) and just wants to have sex, *most of the time* he still has to go through the courtship process as if he DID want to date her. Whether it's lying or actually "going on dates". At least in american culture.Because even if the girl wants it too she's afraid of being labeled a slut so she plays all these games to act like she's hard to get.

as far as girls i date and would want to be in a relaionship with...yes,i want them to be a challenge. as far as long term relationship and marriage material, that is a big part of what i'd look for in a partner. but not because she's playing games. because she wants to be sure about her partner

So strippers are good for sex but not much else. (I am not agreeing or disagreeing. Nor am I condemning you for feeling this way - AT ALL.)

Your original tone had a hint of frustration that men can't *get easy ass* from *nice girls* because then these girls *know that men will just treat them like easy ass.*

I am not arguing with you. Hell, I am agreeing with you.

What the men in this country don't *get* is that if they wouldn't condemn women for being sexually liberated (EVERYONE condemns strippers from the word jump so what the hell difference does what anyone think already make to them? Any stripper with half a brain would NEVER date anyone they meet in a stripclub anyways. Fuck them and party for a night? sure, why not? but date - NEVER.) then they would get A LOT MORE NSA sex.

But the truth is that most people (of BOTH GENDERS) can't handle this notion (true sexual liberation) so it's better for everyone to just fess up and move along. :)
 
So in other words, the minute you start treating them like thinking, feeling human beings instead of things they respond to you positively.

Not exactly. He's playing them, rather than allowing them to play him. It's a old, very well known method, but usually most guys that "discover" it think they've found the Hope Diamond.

I was a dominatrix for a little while and there were some former dancers with whom I worked. Most all of them have egos of porcelain and on some level are desperate for male attention. They are very easy to play if a guy can put away his dick for a minute and think.
 
I was a dominatrix for a little while and there were some former dancers with whom I worked. Most all of them have egos of porcelain and on some level are desperate for male attention. They are very easy to play if a guy can put away his dick for a minute and think.
Like a precious gem, you continue to expose different facets of your personality that never fail to bring amazement :qt:
 
Not exactly. He's playing them, rather than allowing them to play him. It's a old, very well known method, but usually most guys that "discover" it think they've found the Hope Diamond.

I was a dominatrix for a little while and there were some former dancers with whom I worked. Most all of them have egos of porcelain and on some level are desperate for male attention. They are very easy to play if a guy can put away his dick for a minute and think.

Can I marry BOTH YOU AND MUSCLEMOM?!?!?!

I considered doing the dominatress bit for awhile myself but passed because:

1. I already had enough custody issues with *LEGITIMATE* WORK (secretary, front desk at a gym then certified fitness profesional).

2. I was afraid that I didn't have the balls to do it.

Now I glean tremendous pleasure in assuming a dominant position in a male dominated work world - totally sans sex. (Hence my very unsexy avatar from a few days back). See, I know that my power comes from the submissive... heheheheheehe just gotta know how to keep their asses in line.
 
Like a precious gem, you continue to expose different facets of your personality that never fail to bring amazement :qt:

Oh wow you haven't noticed me mention that until now?

You know it's not nearly as freaky as one might think. There is no sex at all, and not neccesarily even any nudity at all on the Dom's part. I was going to school with a very meek straight looking girl who was doing it and told me what it was like. It was very easy and could pay extremely well. Often the guys that like it are very successful men with a LOT of money to spend. If you give what they want, they'll come back religiously, and there's your rocksolid, predictable income stream.
 
Can I marry BOTH YOU AND MUSCLEMOM?!?!?!

I considered doing the dominatress bit for awhile myself but passed because:

1. I already had enough custody issues with *LEGITIMATE* WORK (secretary, front desk at a gym then certified fitness profesional).

2. I was afraid that I didn't have the balls to do it.

Now I glean tremendous pleasure in assuming a dominant position in a male dominated work world - totally sans sex. (Hence my very unsexy avatar from a few days back). See, I know that my power comes from the submissive... heheheheheehe just gotta know how to keep their asses in line.

BAllS! Funny you should mention that. I quit b/c a guy asked to to stand on his. Humiliation, no problem! Some of those dudes really want to be hurt though, which freaked me out.
 
Oh wow you haven't noticed me mention that until now?

You know it's not nearly as freaky as one might think. There is no sex at all, and not neccesarily even any nudity at all on the Dom's part. I was going to school with a very meek straight looking girl who was doing it and told me what it was like. It was very easy and could pay extremely well. Often the guys that like it are very successful men with a LOT of money to spend. If you give what they want, they'll come back religiously, and there's your rocksolid, predictable income stream.

Believe me, I totally looked into it. But as I said, a whacked judge kept taking my kids from me when I was doing *vanilla* work. Could you imagine what would have happened were I to engage in such a profession? I could have made mad bank... in the end it wouldn't have mattered.

Shoulda, woulda, coulda.
 
Oh wow you haven't noticed me mention that until now?

You know it's not nearly as freaky as one might think. There is no sex at all, and not neccesarily even any nudity at all on the Dom's part. I was going to school with a very meek straight looking girl who was doing it and told me what it was like. It was very easy and could pay extremely well. Often the guys that like it are very successful men with a LOT of money to spend. If you give what they want, they'll come back religiously, and there's your rocksolid, predictable income stream.
My husband jokes that I should go into it. I like working from home and being my own boss, combined with being tall and lifting weights ...

I think I'm a little old to break into a new career field but there is an appeal ... too bad there isn't a class in it ... I know there's usually a lot of theatricality involved, setting the scene, the costumes, playing a part.
 
BAllS! Funny you should mention that. I quit b/c a guy asked to to stand on his. Humiliation, no problem! Some of those dudes really want to be hurt though, which freaked me out.

Want to hear frightening?

I WOULD HAVE ZERO TROUBLE PERFORMING SUCH TASKS. I mean none whatsoever...

Hell, I still might. :whatever:

I am very non-violent and am actually quite docile but because of what men have done to me... I would GLEEFULLY get paid to step on some deviant's balls and crush them till they bled.
 
My husband jokes that I should go into it. I like working from home and being my own boss, combined with being tall and lifting weights ...

I think I'm a little old to break into a new career field but there is an appeal ... too bad there isn't a class in it ... I know there's usually a lot of theatricality involved, setting the scene, the costumes, playing a part.

Pffffffffffftt YOU COULD DO IT EASILY.

You live where there is money close-by.

I say - do it.
 
fuck your "method" i just wait in the back of the strip club for however long it takes one to come out and then i casually ask "do they make asshurts in there?" and they say "how do you make an asshurt?" then BAM dirty chloroform rag and 3 hours later they wake up on their stomach saying "oh"

lol
 
Pffffffffffftt YOU COULD DO IT EASILY.

You live where there is money close-by.

I say - do it.
I need to talk to my husband more about it. I mean, he wouldn't blink if I said I wanted to go into hairdressing, and there would probably be less physical contact doing this.

Like you, I would have no problem causing pain, just knowing WHAT to do with them, or have them do, that's where I'd drop the ball.

I actually did find a site that offers Dom 101 classes, for free no less. I need to stew on it. I could turn my basement into a wicked dungeon no problem ...

But shit, with all those uptight, overwound type AAA lawyers in Philadelphia, damn.

You know, I have thought about going into couples counseling and I do find sexual deviation fasicinating.
 
I need to talk to my husband more about it. I mean, he wouldn't blink if I said I wanted to go into hairdressing, and there would probably be less physical contact doing this.

Like you, I would have no problem causing pain, just knowing WHAT to do with them, or have them do, that's where I'd drop the ball.

I actually did find a site that offers Dom 101 classes, for free no less. I need to stew on it. I could turn my basement into a wicked dungeon no problem ...

But shit, with all those uptight, overwound type AAA lawyers in Philadelphia, damn.

You know, I have thought about going into couples counseling and I do find sexual deviation fasicinating.

It's true, there are classes, but I really have no idea if they're helpful, MM. It really needs to be something you can just do, you know? I mean the particular stuff you do is easy to figure out, but if you cant sell it, it won't work at all. It's the selling it part that makes the domination. You could tell him to make you a cup of coffee and if you know how to work it, he'll get stoked.

Make me a cup of coffee you fucking worm. Don't look at me. You think I'm joking? Get your fucking ass in there and make my coffee cause I'm going to pour it on your balls.

Can you sell that?
 
I need to talk to my husband more about it. I mean, he wouldn't blink if I said I wanted to go into hairdressing, and there would probably be less physical contact doing this.

Like you, I would have no problem causing pain, just knowing WHAT to do with them, or have them do, that's where I'd drop the ball.

I actually did find a site that offers Dom 101 classes, for free no less. I need to stew on it. I could turn my basement into a wicked dungeon no problem ...

But shit, with all those uptight, overwound type AAA lawyers in Philadelphia, damn.

You know, I have thought about going into couples counseling and I do find sexual deviation fasicinating.

For me it's more about *therapy* LOL

As I stated before I do have seething anger for what men (my ex, fucked up judge, police, etc - yea the women too) have done to me but the anger I feel for what has been done to my daughters... it is unfathomable. I could kill someone - without any remorse or a second thought. However, that is NOT socially acceptable - so I don't. LOL

This would be a *socially acceptable* way for me to deal with my rage. Guy wants to pay me boocoo bucks to paddle his ass while he is tied up with a ballgag in his mouth, ride him around like a little donkey while hitting him my riding crop and digging my spurs into his sides?! SSSSSSSSSSSuuuurrrrreeee! He wants me to stomp on his tongue or drive nails into his cock - COOL. :)

Where do I sign up?

We are talking two consenting adults and there is NO SEX.

And yea - I bet you'd be able to make yourself a nice dungeon. Talk with your hubby. I am telling you, there is NO REASON why you couldn't do it. It's legal and I am thinkin you'd have NO SHORTAGE of clientele. Hell, I could give you the name of your first customer. You guessed it - the guy I forwarded you the emails - BIGTIME sexual deviant. But he is a cheap prick who tries to get all he can for free. So don't waste your time unless he gives you the CASH UP FRONT. Then you can paddle his pasty white ass a couple times just for me. :supercool
 
Where do I sign up?

We are talking two consenting adults and there is NO SEX.

And yea - I bet you'd be able to make yourself a nice dungeon. Talk with your hubby. I am telling you, there is NO REASON why you couldn't do it. It's legal and I am thinkin you'd have NO SHORTAGE of clientele. Hell, I could give you the name of your first customer. You guessed it - the guy I forwarded you the emails - BIGTIME sexual deviant. But he is a cheap prick who tries to get all he can for free. So don't waste your time unless he gives you the CASH UP FRONT. Then you can paddle his pasty white ass a couple times just for me. :supercool
I tried to PM you and RW both, but no go. I have an idea but I wouldn't begin to know how to implement it and would like to consider the idea further.
 
One of my greatest pleasures in life(When i used to take drugs)Was to swallow a handful of xanax bars stuff a grand(Or2)In my pocket with a 1/4 oz of some real good Blow and go stay in Tootsies or pure platinum all fuckin day into the night and walk out broke and fuckin wasted with a date or 2 with some coke whore.Damn I miss that shit sometimes what a fuckin good time that was.
 
*cackle cackle cackle*
At 44 the only chance I ever have of making $200 an hour is finding some type AAA businessman who needs to be told exactly where his place is, and perhaps put into such a place with a firm hand.

I think I could do that.
 
At 44 the only chance I ever have of making $200 an hour is finding some type AAA businessman who needs to be told exactly where his place is, and perhaps put into such a place with a firm hand.

I think I could do that.

Its called a Dominatrix and youd be perfect.
 
Its called a Dominatrix and youd be perfect.
Go up to Post #10. There's two conversations in this thread :D

How do you know I'd be perfect? Nobody on this board has ever met me in real life.
 
At 44 the only chance I ever have of making $200 an hour is finding some type AAA businessman who needs to be told exactly where his place is, and perhaps put into such a place with a firm hand.

I think I could do that.

telling me what to do, that they're scum, and taking their money.

you'd love it.
 
At 44 the only chance I ever have of making $200 an hour is finding some type AAA businessman who needs to be told exactly where his place is, and perhaps put into such a place with a firm hand.

I think I could do that.

I do it all the time (not with the riding crop LOL) but sometimes I get paid a whole lot more and other times the deal doesn't go through, but I sure did get some shits and giggles while I was doin it. Hell every time we walk into our local hang out, the cigar bar, I do it... like a lady, with a smile never flinching in the process and the men EAT THAT SHIT UP. :heart:

It's all a mental game. As for the physical part, that's a whole nuther ball of wax but based on some of the posts I've read from you MM, there is ZERO DOUBT in my mind that you'd take tremendous pleasure in taking money from these fools while you give them EXACTLY WHAT THEY NEED. :lmao:
 
Not exactly. He's playing them, rather than allowing them to play him. It's a old, very well known method, but usually most guys that "discover" it think they've found the Hope Diamond.

I was a dominatrix for a little while and there were some former dancers with whom I worked. Most all of them have egos of porcelain and on some level are desperate for male attention. They are very easy to play if a guy can put away his dick for a minute and think.

i beg to differ. "playing" and "method" sounds manipulative and premeditated

this is just the natural course of events that have taken place ...and an observation of the patterns that have formed.

i don't like people BSing or manipulating me...and i have a very good intuition when people are doing so. i'm basically just brutally honest
 
I am very non-violent and am actually quite docile but because of what men have done to me... I would GLEEFULLY get paid to step on some deviant's balls and crush them till they bled.

Sig-worthy.

Somewhere, miplank and jnev are spinning, sirens blaring, smoke pouring out of their ears.

Also, cw, you do agree that the first part of your strippy adventures are premeditated, right? When you act indifferent and dismissive...isn't that part of the plan and also part of why this thread exists?
 
Sig-worthy.

Somewhere, miplank and jnev are spinning, sirens blaring, smoke pouring out of their ears.

Also, cw, you do agree that the first part of your strippy adventures are premeditated, right? When you act indifferent and dismissive...isn't that part of the plan and also part of why this thread exists?

not at all. it's really just how i started acting after the first time or two i went to a strip club and kinda got the whole vibe and how sheisty strippers can be. i act that way because i find most of them annoying,especially in that context.

I had this one girl that wouldn't shut the fuck up tonight(fuck, last night)....black chick. the more i got annoyed with her the more she kept talking. didn't even ask me for a dance or a drink, just wanted to talk and thought i was cute apparently. only reason i was able to get rid of her was because she had to dance on stage.

it was never meant to be a "tactic", but apparently it works.
 
i beg to differ. "playing" and "method" sounds manipulative and premeditated

this is just the natural course of events that have taken place ...and an observation of the patterns that have formed.

i don't like people BSing or manipulating me...and i have a very good intuition when people are doing so. i'm basically just brutally honest

Fair enough.

I don't think spotting a stripper play requires very good intuition at all though, or much effort to defuse. They're extremely transparent, and in terms of their ego, very childlike oftentimes.
 
Fair enough.

I don't think spotting a stripper play requires very good intuition at all though, or much effort to defuse. They're extremely transparent, and in terms of their ego, very childlike oftentimes.

yes, they're absolutely transparent. that was a poor explanation of what i was trying to convey.

but you'd be surprised
some are very good at hiding it for long periods of time(seem like they're being real, but they're not) and when you're not expecting it try to go for the kill. i had 1 shady bitch that played her cards well and then tried to trick me into spending a bunch of money on her....but i let my guard down prematurely looking back.

south american and russian ones are the sneakiest.
 
It's not that hard to bang a stripper like everyone thinks. I talk to them like they have to prove themselves to me. Fuck kissing ass. Most of the time, I just sit there and tell them, I came along with my friends, and if you want to talk or rest here to talk, go ahead. About 20 minutes later, they tell me personal shit, then after smell pot on me, they want to hook up later that night. All you have to do smoke them out and you can run a train. Sometimes you don't even need to do that, on rare occassions they will they will let you know they want to fuck. I got some stories. Lets just say my cock was pulled out over my pants with out taking them off. Goodtimes.
 
It's not that hard to bang a stripper like everyone thinks. I talk to them like they have to prove themselves to me. Fuck kissing ass. Most of the time, I just sit there and tell them, I came along with my friends, and if you want to talk or rest here to talk, go ahead. About 20 minutes later, they tell me personal shit, then after smell pot on me, they want to hook up later that night. All you have to do smoke them out and you can run a train. Sometimes you don't even need to do that, on rare occassions they will they will let you know they want to fuck. I got some stories. Lets just say my cock was pulled out over my pants with out taking them off. Goodtimes.

those strawberry pickers le gusta fumar
 
not at all. it's really just how i started acting after the first time or two i went to a strip club and kinda got the whole vibe and how sheisty strippers can be. i act that way because i find most of them annoying,especially in that context.

I had this one girl that wouldn't shut the fuck up tonight(fuck, last night)....black chick. the more i got annoyed with her the more she kept talking. didn't even ask me for a dance or a drink, just wanted to talk and thought i was cute apparently. only reason i was able to get rid of her was because she had to dance on stage.

it was never meant to be a "tactic", but apparently it works.

really. so, when you first interact with a stripper (for the 1000th time), you're not aware of any intention on your part to act a certain way in order to get them to loosen up or drop the stripper act? nothing you thought about before getting to the club?
 
Fair enough.

I don't think spotting a stripper play requires very good intuition at all though, or much effort to defuse. They're extremely transparent, and in terms of their ego, very childlike oftentimes.

How much more transparent can the whole thing be? Any man who thinks he is walking into a strip club to *meet the girl of his dreams* or any stripper who thinks she will *meet the man of his dreams* at work is well, silly.

It's adult entertainment. She is paid to sell a fantasy. period. Sadly, it doesn't always end there and the lines of fantasy/reality are often times blurred. No victims - on willing participants.

I am still trying to understand why so many men (not a personal slight to ANYONE) thinks that the fact that they had sex with a stripper is some sort of feather in their cap. OK so she may be beautiful and very sexy but so? The men themselves admit they wouldn't consider her dating material so what is the big deal about it?

I appreciate the admission that everyone is an adult and everyone knows the deal upfront.

Just a suggestion for the men: why not be equally upfront with NONstrippers that you find attractive but who you really DONT WANT to bother investing time/money/effort into getting to know them. Why not just right from the start treat them the way you would a stripper - "Look I am not looking for a long-term thing or even a relationship. I think you're hot so how bout we get together and when we're done. It's done."

I think ya'll would be surprized how much more free nani you will get this way.

Women want sex too.
 
How much more transparent can the whole thing be? Any man who thinks he is walking into a strip club to *meet the girl of his dreams* or any stripper who thinks she will *meet the man of his dreams* at work is well, silly.

It's adult entertainment. She is paid to sell a fantasy. period. Sadly, it doesn't always end there and the lines of fantasy/reality are often times blurred. No victims - on willing participants.

I am still trying to understand why so many men (not a personal slight to ANYONE) thinks that the fact that they had sex with a stripper is some sort of feather in their cap. OK so she may be beautiful and very sexy but so? The men themselves admit they wouldn't consider her dating material so what is the big deal about it?

I appreciate the admission that everyone is an adult and everyone knows the deal upfront.

Just a suggestion for the men: why not be equally upfront with NONstrippers that you find attractive but who you really DONT WANT to bother investing time/money/effort into getting to know them. Why not just right from the start treat them the way you would a stripper - "Look I am not looking for a long-term thing or even a relationship. I think you're hot so how bout we get together and when we're done. It's done."

I think ya'll would be surprized how much more free nani you will get this way.

Women want sex too.

uh..really? you just answered your own question.

stripper or no stripper, having sex with an attractive girl is "a feather in the cap" for most guys...if it's done without paying for it.
 
How much more transparent can the whole thing be? Any man who thinks he is walking into a strip club to *meet the girl of his dreams* or any stripper who thinks she will *meet the man of his dreams* at work is well, silly.

It's adult entertainment. She is paid to sell a fantasy. period. Sadly, it doesn't always end there and the lines of fantasy/reality are often times blurred. No victims - on willing participants.

I am still trying to understand why so many men (not a personal slight to ANYONE) thinks that the fact that they had sex with a stripper is some sort of feather in their cap. OK so she may be beautiful and very sexy but so? The men themselves admit they wouldn't consider her dating material so what is the big deal about it?

I appreciate the admission that everyone is an adult and everyone knows the deal upfront.

Just a suggestion for the men: why not be equally upfront with NONstrippers that you find attractive but who you really DONT WANT to bother investing time/money/effort into getting to know them. Why not just right from the start treat them the way you would a stripper - "Look I am not looking for a long-term thing or even a relationship. I think you're hot so how bout we get together and when we're done. It's done."

I think ya'll would be surprized how much more free nani you will get this way.

Women want sex too.

There's no big deal, it's just we got what we wanted without having to do really nothing. Most guys can't pull it off. This is the glory of it.
 
There's no big deal, it's just we got what we wanted without having to do really nothing. Most guys can't pull it off. This is the glory of it.

See, that is what confuses me. If it's not that big of a deal then why do guys high five themselves for doing it?

I mean, isn't that sorta like being proud of the fact that can stand your own stink after not bathing for 3 days. (I dunno A LOT of guys who can do this either, but I do know a few LOL).
 
See, that is what confuses me. If it's not that big of a deal then why do guys high five themselves for doing it?

I mean, isn't that sorta like being proud of the fact that can stand your own stink after not bathing for 3 days. (I dunno A LOT of guys who can do this either, but I do know a few LOL).

Let me put it this way, it's like saying my dick is bigger. Kind of like a pride thing. You'll get instant male respect because you can and they can't.
 
Let me put it this way, it's like saying my dick is bigger. Kind of like a pride thing. You'll get instant male respect because you can and they can't.

Even though what *you can do* has no real value?

Thank goodness that men are simple creatures. If ya'll were as complicated as females the species would most definitely die out.

:lmao:
 
Even though what *you can do* has no real value?

Thank goodness that men are simple creatures. If ya'll were as complicated as females the species would most definitely die out.

:lmao:

Of course it's not valued by you, why would it? Different strokes for different folks. Most men think in terms as this. Just like in HS, who was bangin' so and so. Just the way things are, don't try to put to much thought into this, you might hurt yourself. LOL!
 
Of course it's not valued by you, why would it? Different strokes for different folks. Most men think in terms as this. Just like in HS, who was bangin' so and so. Just the way things are, don't try to put to much thought into this, you might hurt yourself. LOL!

There is really no mental stretching here. I just thought maybe I was misunderstanding the situation.... which clearly, I wasn't. :)

Many guys think that it is enviable that some other guys can bang a stripper (even though admittedly that has no value in and of itself because we've already established that it's no "big deal" sorta like copping a feel from some girl's titty on prom night. Some guys could while most could NOT.) just because a lot of guys CANT.

It's kinda like envying the guy who could belch the loudest and longest or the rocket scientist who could light his farts without catching the hair from his nutsack on fire. :whatever:

If ya'll were nearly as complicated seriously, the species would die out in a single generation.
 
There is really no mental stretching here. I just thought maybe I was misunderstanding the situation.... which clearly, I wasn't. :)

Many guys think that it is enviable that some other guys can bang a stripper (even though admittedly that has no value in and of itself because we've already established that it's no "big deal" sorta like copping a feel from some girl's titty on prom night. Some guys could while most could NOT.) just because a lot of guys CANT.

It's kinda like envying the guy who could belch the loudest and longest or the rocket scientist who could light his farts without catching the hair from his nutsack on fire. :whatever:

If ya'll were nearly as complicated seriously, the species would die out in a single generation.

Same thing happens in a gym. If you can out bench everyone, you will be the man. Stupid yes, but it happens. Women show off, in other ways, like style and compete in looks to be seen as the hottie. Why else would married women get up 3 hours before it's time to go to work to get ready. Now is there, any sense to that and why go through all that if you got a man? Now that makes no sense. We both express and find things to set ourselves apart from our counterparts to repsond or admire.
 
I love strip clubs, although the last one left a weird taste in my mouth. I sat down in the back and a couple of guys turned around and just kept staring at me. I was definitely prettier then the stripper but I felt like they thought I was an employee and it was my off-night or something. Felt dirty, blah. I was kicked out of a gay male strip club though in another country. They were yelling at me and I couldn't understand why. I guess I missed the no females allowed sign on the door ;)
 
I love strip clubs, although the last one left a weird taste in my mouth. I sat down in the back and a couple of guys turned around and just kept staring at me. I was definitely prettier then the stripper but I felt like they thought I was an employee and it was my off-night or something. Felt dirty, blah. I was kicked out of a gay male strip club though in another country. They were yelling at me and I couldn't understand why. I guess I missed the no females allowed sign on the door ;)

I literally busted out laughing reading that!

I suppose that trumps my "I was nearly kicked out of the men's bath house in the Hotel Arlington in Hot Springs, Arkansas" story huh!
 
Same thing happens in a gym. If you can out bench everyone, you will be the man. Stupid yes, but it happens. Women show off, in other ways, like style and compete in looks to be seen as the hottie. Why else would married women get up 3 hours before it's time to go to work to get ready. Now is there, any sense to that and why go through all that if you got a man? Now that makes no sense. We both express and find things to set ourselves apart from our counterparts to repsond or admire.

The answer to that question is simple and that is because women are valued very highly for their beauty by OUR SOCIETY AS A WHOLE and not merely by men when it comes to sex. That is a truism that none of us can deny or sadly, escape. Were that not true than no woman would ever be devalued simply because "she got old".
 
I love strip clubs, although the last one left a weird taste in my mouth. I sat down in the back and a couple of guys turned around and just kept staring at me. I was definitely prettier then the stripper but I felt like they thought I was an employee and it was my off-night or something. Felt dirty, blah. I was kicked out of a gay male strip club though in another country. They were yelling at me and I couldn't understand why. I guess I missed the no females allowed sign on the door ;)

Pick3 was probably the bouncer
 
LAst time I was at a strip club I asked some chick if she went to LA Fitness. Some other chick thought I told her she should go to LA Fitness. That was pretty funny, the other girl went psycho bitch on me. I laughed in her face.
 
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