Sides from a Deca Only cycle??

[shrimp44]

I was an idiot and did this, one cc a week i think it was 250mg gained 15 pounds, with no pct I lost it all and crashed barely any strength gains, and shitty diet, now after lifting 2 year solid after that with out even thinking about roids agian yet..., I regret doing it as a newbie like crazy and got 100X smarter from it, and NOW i think I am ready for a 10x better cycle

 

[HOG]

I've used deca with last 4 cycles because the 5th previous I didn't, and joint pain was awful. That's the #1 benefit to me personally - I stack deca, sust, and dianabol. I also find front loading the pin with deca takes the edge off if you are shooting test cyp or enan - reduces the soreness the next day for me on the 2 or 3 cc shots.

 

[bigrand]

I find that when i stack test with deca i:

Get BAD estro sides, bloat, nipps, fat
Loose more of the gains then on Deca alone (i get shut down more)
Feel like str8 shit (feel great when on only deca).

 

[boxerjake]

Where's the poll option "I would never use deca alone, period"

Deca olny is an excellent " FIRST " cycle for beginners to injectables ...

Ow all the self professed expects abound on the inter-net will jump down your throat with " Wheres the test " or ya gotta front load with orals like d-bol ..

All bullshit !!

Take a 25 year old who's spent lots of time in the gym " paid his dues " give him 200mg per week for 4 weeks and he'll make fucking gains like he has never seen before in his entire life . At this low a dose and time frame suppression is pretty much none existant as well as side effects ...

Take the next 4 weeks off and do water retention tricks like a creatine cycle or 12 once of water every waking hour as well as 6 decicated liver tabs and nuts to snack on all day long ... get the body holding some water to aid in strength and use to the extra weight ..

After that 4 week off period do another mild product like primo at 200 mg per week along with some var to solidify the results made on the deca cycle ... train like a fuckin ape for 4 weeks

After this 3 month period all your friends and family will be going " WTF " !!! if your training and eating not fucking the dog relying on drugs for progress .

You don't need crazy ass bastard test d-bol dec eq winny tren cycles right out of the gate ... fact is the olny ones doing shit like that are guys who compete and do this for a living ... Chucking fucking insane cycles into your body for recreation and just to look cool at the disco or beach is a fucking death sentance and totaly irresponsible to suggest it to anyone else .

If you want to be a pro bodybuilder then you know the risks to your health and you know without the perfect genetic makeup it's going to take a pile of gear to get you there ... so it's risk VS reward ...

 

[MADBALL99]

My unique problem is that I did 2 cycles of Deca and was told that HCG was the same as Clomid....as you can guess I was shut down VERY hard. Very low test level, as well as LH, and FSH.......

Been nearly 3 months since my last HCG shot....Started Tomaxophine Citrate over a month later (too late ?) and have been on it for about 7 weeks. Erections have gotten a little better, but NO SEX DRIVE and feel lethargic and moody.....Will my test return back to normal or does doing HCG w/ no Clomid or Nolva immedietly afterwards permanently shut you down ??


how long should I wait and does Nolvadex (Tomaxo ) further supress libido ?? Should I possibly run HCG or possibly even Test again ? Need advice since I have an endo appt. in a month and do NOT want to go on TRT or HRT. I'm 31 BTW.

 

[reelbig004]

Acne!!

 

[Bruce]

get some liquid clomid and proviron and oxytocin asap. the proviron will fix the libido and erection problem

My unique problem is that I did 2 cycles of Deca and was told that HCG was the same as Clomid....as you can guess I was shut down VERY hard. Very low test level, as well as LH, and FSH.......

Been nearly 3 months since my last HCG shot....Started Tomaxophine Citrate over a month later (too late ?) and have been on it for about 7 weeks. Erections have gotten a little better, but NO SEX DRIVE and feel lethargic and moody.....Will my test return back to normal or does doing HCG w/ no Clomid or Nolva immedietly afterwards permanently shut you down ??


how long should I wait and does Nolvadex (Tomaxo ) further supress libido ?? Should I possibly run HCG or possibly even Test again ? Need advice since I have an endo appt. in a month and do NOT want to go on TRT or HRT. I'm 31 BTW.

 

[MadManiac13]

You got my vote..

Mine, too! As a rule, I won't run any Nandrolone with out adding Test

 

[Bruce]

this is horrible advice

Deca olny is an excellent(undefinedterrible) " FIRST " cycle for beginners to injectables ...

Ow all the self professed expects abound on the inter-net will jump down your throat with " Wheres the test " or ya gotta front load with orals like d-bol ..

All bullshit !! (ever had your dick not work right, guess not?)

Take a 25 year old who's spent lots of time in the gym " paid his dues " give him 200mg per week for 4 weeks(hmmm impressive, since deca takes 3 or 4 weeks to even kick in period.) and he'll make fucking gains like he has never seen before in his entire life . At this low a dose and time frame suppression is pretty much none existant as well as side effects ...

Take the next 4 weeks off and do water retention tricks like a creatine cycle or 12 once of water every waking hour as well as 6 decicated liver tabs and nuts to snack on all day long ... get the body holding some water to aid in strength and use to the extra weight ..

After that 4 week off period do another mild product like primo at 200 mg per week (once again idiotic, primo must be ran at 600mg minimum for a man) along with some var to solidify the results made on the deca cycle ... train like a fuckin ape for 4 weeks[COLOR=DarkSlateGray]( you cannot use any aas to solidity gains. its like people that think dbol followed by winny will keep all their gains, pct bro)[/COLOR]
After this 3 month period all your friends and family will be going " WTF " !!! if your training and eating not fucking the dog relying on drugs for progress .or you will be at the doctor cause you dick don't work and you are terribly lethargic. any friends of the opposite sex will be quite unhappyYou don't need crazy ass bastard test d-bol dec eq winny tren cycles right out of the gate ... fact is the olny ones doing shit like that are guys who compete and do this for a living ... Chucking fucking insane cycles into your body for recreation and just to look cool at the disco or beach is a fucking death sentance and totaly irresponsible to suggest it to anyone else .

If you want to be a pro bodybuilder then you know the risks to your health and you know without the perfect genetic makeup it's going to take a pile of gear to get you there ... so it's risk VS reward ...