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Should have never stopped Eq

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I stopped using Eq about Feb. Just because I ran out and didn't order more. Fast Forward.
A month ago my gf signed me up to run a 10k with her at Disney. HUH?? yeah okay, so I started running. I hadn't run in two years or even trained in 2 months due to injury. So while she was running 4 miles and I was running 1. I got up to 3 miles but was gasping for air and near death most of the way. Note: One of the things that I have a hard time with is getting up and running at 4:30am. Anyway, 3 weeks ago, in preparation for this I started Eq again (500mg/wk). This morning it kicked in. I ran 4 miles with her and could have done it again. I was like, OMFG, where has THIS been???
For those who don't know what I'm talking about, Eq dramatically increases RBC. So I was able to not only run but hold a normal conversation doing it.
I will come down to 300mg/wk in a couple weeks but I can't imagine ever coming off again.
 
I hear ya. I ran EQ for about 14 weeks or so...its wierd you can breathe easier and you dont get as winded. Pretty much the opposite of tren.
 
eq, here i come....
 
I never tried EQ but now i think that This will be in my next cutting cycle so i can actually do cardio longer than 2 minutes. Funny post Ulter...Good luck with the 10k
 
I never really noticed that before, probably because I don't do cardio, I do love EQ though, it's my favorite of all time. Cardio = antichrist
 
ulter,

i'm curious, is it possible to have too many RBC? ...similar to doping with EPO, that can make your blood so thick that it may actually hinder circulation? or even stop circulation in your sleep while one's heart rate is low?

i only wish i could still use EQ ...the stuff makes me crazy now (bad anxiety)
 
I ran EQ and stopped after 27 weeks, just because I was leary of running a compound that long. Got blood tested and everything was perfect. Wish I would have stayed on.
 
Damn, I had no Idea EQ had those benefits. I am currently on apx 650mgs per week and havent noticed a difference its 6th Week now, Also my appetite hasn't increased either. hmmm, I have never ran EQ in the past and I would benefit from the resperatory increase, So hopefully.....
 
Ulter said:
Yeah no shit huh? And she signs up for DISNEY, not some little charity 10k with a couple dozen people there. I have to run against her in front of 25,000 people. Many from asia with cameras.
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Atleast you'll be the most jacked SOB out there. After you kick their asses in the 10k, take them to the gym for some schoolin' :)
 
that's why it's called Equipose... for track horses...speedy horses ;)

Good job with the running and GOOD LUCK with the 10k... i think i'd collapse, lol.
 
Ulter said:
Yeah no shit huh? And she signs up for DISNEY, not some little charity 10k with a couple dozen people there. I have to run against her in front of 25,000 people. Many from asia with cameras.
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Let me guess. She's 25 and has an ass to kill for. Am I right? :p
 
I make my own. Eq is liquid at room temp and is by far the easiet injectable to make. If I'm feeling to lazy to make it then I would go with Proform labs.
 
the fact that EQ raises RBC, does this mean that your blood is thickening? could this increase risk for stroke or heart attack? just wondering cause im thinking of possibly adding EQ to my next cycle.
 
Ulter said:
Yeah no shit huh? And she signs up for DISNEY, not some little charity 10k with a couple dozen people there. I have to run against her in front of 25,000 people. Many from asia with cameras.
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You don't have to say that, it's implied. it's like saying I'm german and I wear sandals with black socks.
 
jagerbombme said:
the fact that EQ raises RBC, does this mean that your blood is thickening? could this increase risk for stroke or heart attack? just wondering cause im thinking of possibly adding EQ to my next cycle.
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bump for more replies on this. What happens after you stop EQ? I lvoe EQ and want to run it by itself.
 
i love it cause it makes me horney as all hell without test and gives me lean mass and a great appetite. pumps are great and vascularity. i see no sides at 800mg ew for 17 weeks. what is not to love
 
jagerbombme said:
the fact that EQ raises RBC, does this mean that your blood is thickening? could this increase risk for stroke or heart attack? just wondering cause im thinking of possibly adding EQ to my next cycle.
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Yes that's what I was posting about in the other post. If you take very high doses it can cause the blood to get to rich and clog capillaries. I've only seen reports of this with dosing over a gram a week and only in some men.
 
at 1200mg/week it makes it harder to breathe for sure. Blood was a little syrupy I noticed too.

Also, mosquitos loved me for some reason - I was getting eat up everywhere.
 
Twoguns said:
Thanks bros, I just got schooled on EQ.
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IMHO, it is the best compopund out there IF IF IF you have the patience to let it work and run it long enough. It's just awesome after about week 7. I frigin LOVE EQ.
 
have there ever been any studies that show any long term effects of EQ? I have tried to find them but cannot and figured one of you eggheads might know. I love it, but I want to know if anything long term would pop up. Otherwise, I may get on for good. :)
 
jagerbombme said:
so, over 1000mg is where you should start to watch yourself. 400mg ew should have no worries?
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Yes, - and I've ALWAYS loved EQ run at 600mg with some test - and I run it at 20 weeks at a time, but this time when I add it, I will be running it much longer - possibly at 400mg w/test E @ 500mg/week
 
fuckin love eq....im gonna run it lower than i did last time..with some aifm to keep me dryer becuase i did hold like about 5lbs of water that fell right off after i stoped....happy growing bros
 
EQ has really boosted my endurance for mountain biking. Ever seen a 257 pound juicer average 17.8 MPH for 10 miles to the top on a full suspension bike? :D
 
How worthy is EQ by itself? I'm in beginning stages of planning next cycle and was considering (Eq Test-E), or (Eq oral) or just (Eq) by itself. Looking to lean mass.
 
digit0x said:
How worthy is EQ by itself? I'm in beginning stages of planning next cycle and was considering (Eq Test-E), or (Eq oral) or just (Eq) by itself. Looking to lean mass.
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EQ alone is good for modest gains in LBM over an extended period. I'm currently running it with Test Prop and Anavar.
 
digit0x said:
How worthy is EQ by itself? I'm in beginning stages of planning next cycle and was considering (Eq Test-E), or (Eq oral) or just (Eq) by itself. Looking to lean mass.
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bruce and krishna got me convinced my next cycle will be EQ and proviron only. I can't wait. :)
 
I bet EQ is good but it made my hair fall out in clumps so I had to stop. I take dutasteride but that is only effective against test.
 
rykertest said:
bruce and krishna got me convinced my next cycle will be EQ and proviron only. I can't wait. :)
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an excellent choice, this damn thread forced me to stay on the eq. i didn't take my shot monday and was weening off with the npp, but i was still gaining off it and i say fuck it. i'm staying on for 20 weeks. its a celebration, show charley murphey your titties.
 
bruce410 said:
an excellent choice, this damn thread forced me to stay on the eq. i didn't take my shot monday and was weening off with the npp, but i was still gaining off it and i say fuck it. i'm staying on for 20 weeks. its a celebration, show charley murphey your titties.
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Tear it up bro - you have the knowledge and discipline to run it for 20+weeks.

Looking goood bro
 
Has anybody ever seen or used a boldenone phenylpropionate version of Eq?

I haven't followed up on Eq in awhile. I know the Acetate seems to have unlimited sides.

Not a big fan of Eq for bulking, but may think about giving it one last try during cutting up next summer.

BMJ
 
its a celebration bitches....im rick james bitch...hell no i never put my feet on a nigga's couch...i seem to remember putting my feet on a nigga's couch
 
Cauliflower Ear said:
its a celebration bitches....im rick james bitch...hell no i never put my feet on a nigga's couch...i seem to remember putting my feet on a nigga's couch
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ah ah ah. thats right bitches. i'm one of the best looking motherfuckers you ever seen. one of the best dressed funkiest motherfuckers. this is the dirt rick james walked in on.
FUCK YO COUCH NIGGA.
 
MR. BMJ said:
Has anybody ever seen or used a boldenone phenylpropionate version of Eq?

I haven't followed up on Eq in awhile. I know the Acetate seems to have unlimited sides.

Not a big fan of Eq for bulking, but may think about giving it one last try during cutting up next summer.

BMJ
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You can easily obtain it from a powder source in China however, it does have similar effects to bold prop.. i'm sure bold acetate would be just as bad..

Benadryl helped me a lot while I suffered through experimenting with bold prop..

T-Matt
 
T-Matt said:
You can easily obtain it from a powder source in China however, it does have similar effects to bold prop.. i'm sure bold acetate would be just as bad..

Benadryl helped me a lot while I suffered through experimenting with bold prop..

T-Matt
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I never have read what benadryal does for you?
 
rykertest said:
I never have read what benadryal does for you?
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me neither
 
pitbullrocco said:
me neither
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It kept my symptoms somewhat managable.. And of course managable is a relative word.. lol

From what I know the reaction to bold prop is basically an allergic reaction.. Benadryl is used to treat allergies.. I'm sure macro can chime in to give us a more scientific look into it..

T-Matt
 
T-Matt said:
It kept my symptoms somewhat managable.. And of course managable is a relative word.. lol

From what I know the reaction to bold prop is basically an allergic reaction.. Benadryl is used to treat allergies.. I'm sure macro can chime in to give us a more scientific look into it..

T-Matt
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the antihistamine in the benadryl is what help against allergic reactions but thats not what makes it interesting;

the part that helps with people who take high amounts of EQ and/or Clen often get that anxiety feeling and benadryl also happens to be an anticholinergic agent which means: its a pharmaceutical compound which serves to reduce the effects mediated by acetylcholine in the central nervous system and peripheral nervous system. It works like a sedative, it can calm you down.
 
Ulter said:
Yes it's possible and it's happened. Back when guy on this board were frontloading 2 grams of Eq they were having panic attacks and couldn't breathe. Nothing life threatening but enough to scare a few into the ER. The RBC's cause the capillaries to become clogged and restrict blood flow.
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If I was you I would take one asprin tab before the run. As you lose water from running your blood will thicken. The asprin will thin the blood so you shouldn't have any problems. A 10k in the hot sun on asphalte can cook the water right out of you. So hydrate a lot before the run. Remember it's not a BB contest you don't want to be dry you want all the water in you you can get.
 
iHulk said:
the antihistamine in the benadryl is what help against allergic reactions but thats not what makes it interesting;

the part that helps with people who take high amounts of EQ and/or Clen often get that anxiety feeling and benadryl also happens to be an anticholinergic agent which means: its a pharmaceutical compound which serves to reduce the effects mediated by acetylcholine in the central nervous system and peripheral nervous system. It works like a sedative, it can calm you down.
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good post, k hit for ya man.
 
hey what do youu guys thing the lowest dose of eq would be to get the high RBC's but not really put on any muscle....i am at the top of the middle-heavy weight division and i have 5 tournaments coming up in the next 2 1/2 months...was thinking of running it low with some aifm for the RBC's and the aifm to keep off any water. thanks bros
 
Cauliflower Ear said:
hey what do youu guys thing the lowest dose of eq would be to get the high RBC's but not really put on any muscle....i am at the top of the middle-heavy weight division and i have 5 tournaments coming up in the next 2 1/2 months...was thinking of running it low with some aifm for the RBC's and the aifm to keep off any water. thanks bros
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bro keep your diet strict and EQ at 400mg wont put any weight on you at all. I'm on week 10 of eq at 400mg and i've only gained 4lbs, and I think that was really from running tbol for 3weeks. Like everyone says, you get "modest" gains with eq. i'm hoping this week it will really kick in. Bruce said week 10 for him was a big increase, so i'm hoping it will for me. As of right now, i'm not real impressed with strength gains, but then again I might be underestimating my gains. it is my first cycle so i'm not exactly sure what kind of strength gains are supposed to occur. I've gained approx. 30 to 40lbs on bench press in 10 weeks. That might be decent for EQ? not exactly sure, but I do feel really good and I plan on running it another 5 weeks.
 
GymIntensity said:
bro keep your diet strict and EQ at 400mg wont put any weight on you at all. I'm on week 10 of eq at 400mg and i've only gained 4lbs, and I think that was really from running tbol for 3weeks. Like everyone says, you get "modest" gains with eq. i'm hoping this week it will really kick in. Bruce said week 10 for him was a big increase, so i'm hoping it will for me. As of right now, i'm not real impressed with strength gains, but then again I might be underestimating my gains. it is my first cycle so i'm not exactly sure what kind of strength gains are supposed to occur. I've gained approx. 30 to 40lbs on bench press in 10 weeks. That might be decent for EQ? not exactly sure, but I do feel really good and I plan on running it another 5 weeks.
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are you running aifm...when i ran eq at 600mg i blew up bro....15weeks 30 lbs...fuckin gnarly...although it was my first cycle...30-40lbs is not bad at all bro...that is your max that has gone up? how about those legs thats what i really wanna know about...how has your squat gone up?
 
UA_Iron said:
at 1200mg/week it makes it harder to breathe for sure. Blood was a little syrupy I noticed too.

Also, mosquitos loved me for some reason - I was getting eat up everywhere.
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the best thing for combatting misquitos is to eat 5-8 match heads. The sulfur from the matches will make you smell gross to them. You personally won't be able to smell a difference, but they will. That is in the RANGER hand book. a lot of guys in the service swear by it. It works better than deet or anything else hands down.
 
cboogsrun said:
the best thing for combatting misquitos is to eat 5-8 match heads. The sulfur from the matches will make you smell gross to them. You personally won't be able to smell a difference, but they will. That is in the RANGER hand book. a lot of guys in the service swear by it. It works better than deet or anything else hands down.
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U serious, bro?

That's pretty interesting.................
 
same here, on
week 6 -400mgs a week of EQ
week 6 -50mgs of prop eod
week 1 of 4 at 100mgs of var ED

I'm liking the effects. Strength is way up, endurance is up. Although, I'm thinking of bumping the EQ up from 400mgs to 600 or 800 mgs for the last 8-10 weeks. I've been watching my diet a lot more on this cycle then on my first and I'm glad to say I've stayed leanand cut down on some BF. I still want to cut down some more but that takes time, diet, and cardio. Overall EQ is good, especially with aimf and keeps prop from bloating you up. I love that. I just have to watch myself before I get tested again because it has a 5 month detections since I'm suspended this fall until spring. Should I bump it up?
 
Ulter said:
I stopped using Eq about Feb. Just because I ran out and didn't order more. Fast Forward.
A month ago my gf signed me up to run a 10k with her at Disney. HUH?? yeah okay, so I started running. I hadn't run in two years or even trained in 2 months due to injury. So while she was running 4 miles and I was running 1. I got up to 3 miles but was gasping for air and near death most of the way. Note: One of the things that I have a hard time with is getting up and running at 4:30am. Anyway, 3 weeks ago, in preparation for this I started Eq again (500mg/wk). This morning it kicked in. I ran 4 miles with her and could have done it again. I was like, OMFG, where has THIS been???
For those who don't know what I'm talking about, Eq dramatically increases RBC. So I was able to not only run but hold a normal conversation doing it.
I will come down to 300mg/wk in a couple weeks but I can't imagine ever coming off again.
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But Ulter...what about the libido problems off of EQ bro? And no lie..when I'm on EQ. I can't have sex! My legs get heavily cramped up if I start to do various postions. Just painfull!!!
 
danymal04 said:
same here, on
week 6 -400mgs a week of EQ
week 6 -50mgs of prop eod
week 1 of 4 at 100mgs of var ED

I'm liking the effects. Strength is way up, endurance is up. Although, I'm thinking of bumping the EQ up from 400mgs to 600 or 800 mgs for the last 8-10 weeks. I've been watching my diet a lot more on this cycle then on my first and I'm glad to say I've stayed leanand cut down on some BF. I still want to cut down some more but that takes time, diet, and cardio. Overall EQ is good, especially with aimf and keeps prop from bloating you up. I love that. I just have to watch myself before I get tested again because it has a 5 month detections since I'm suspended this fall until spring. Should I bump it up?
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why are you suspended?
 
Cauliflower Ear said:
are you running aifm...when i ran eq at 600mg i blew up bro....15weeks 30 lbs...fuckin gnarly...although it was my first cycle...30-40lbs is not bad at all bro...that is your max that has gone up? how about those legs thats what i really wanna know about...how has your squat gone up?
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no bro, I ran proviron at 50mg for the first 7 weeks, and i'm bout to start the prov back up on week 11-16. I dont really feel like i've gained any bloat at all? hopefully my last 5 weeks of EQ will really pick it up. As far as legs, ive been training for 5 years and legs are probably what ive lacked/slacked on the most. Usually i wouldn't squat more than 225, maybe for a set of 10 but it drained me. Now I can probably do a set of 275 fairly easy. I tend to have a bad left knee from time to time so I never try to overdo it on squats. But i've been hittin my legs hard and they are starting to feel really good. This week ive started winny and I'm gonna finish up with 6 weeks of winny at 50mg along with the proviron.
 
it doesn't take much eq to raise the rbc ... 200mg/w will do that easily. my hematocrit was in the low 50s from that low dose (borderline high) run for my last long cycle. and some of the other values were (MCV, etc) were also questionable. since then, and for comparison to now, i am clean for over a year except for gh and my hematocrit is currently at 45. I'm ulters age but I don't have a young wife like him bastard. at least i don't have to run marathons. I need to get back on soon cause it seems I don't get any pussy unless i'm runnin at least some T. I think the best range for hematocrit for a male is upper 40's. that would be a good hrt dose.
 
Carth said:
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But Ulter...what about the libido problems off of EQ bro? And no lie..when I'm on EQ. I can't have sex! My legs get heavily cramped up if I start to do various postions. Just painfull!!!
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Eq is test based. In fact, it's practically liquid dbol in structure. Libido is not likely to be an issue. Add Proviron if it is. Cramps? Taurine powder.
 
Ulter said:
Eq is test based. In fact, it's practically liquid dbol in structure. Libido is not likely to be an issue. Add Proviron if it is. Cramps? Taurine powder.
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liquid Dbol? Yeah i keep reading about EQ being liquid Dbol. If that were the case. Why is it that nobody bloats off of EQ??? About the cramps. I don't know. My legs get all cramped up while performing.
 
Eq is def in my top 3 fav drugs to use in a cycle! What dose did you start off with ? Good luck with the run bro, got more guts then me! I won't even run to the corner store :p

M18
 
Carth said:
liquid Dbol? Yeah i keep reading about EQ being liquid Dbol. If that were the case. Why is it that nobody bloats off of EQ??? About the cramps. I don't know. My legs get all cramped up while performing.
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Maybe you should consider leaving out the trapese.

It's NOT liquid dbol. It doesn't aromatize like dbol. But the structure of it is damn close and it's obvious the people who formulated it used dbol as their template.
 
so Ulter, does EQ shut you down more than suspected or less or is it dose dependent? I have been really wanting to do a EQ/Proviron only cycle for about 20 weeks for my next run, but the libido issues and "test-less" cycle has me wondering what I would be getting myself into. I mean, how is my body going to react with no test or greatly reduced test for 20 weeks like that? Never run anything without test.
 
Does eq shut you down more that suspected?? I don't understand that question. Eq shuts you down. Because your going to use an AS that is not going to add much estrogen you won't have the estrogen to offset the effects of a test based AS. Soooooo you may get more aggressive. You may want to beat up various newbies here from time to time. But it should not affect on libido should be minimal. Especially if you're using Proviron. At least that's not a very common side effect based on the reports here over the past 6 years.
 
Ulter said:
Does eq shut you down more that suspected?? I don't understand that question. Eq shuts you down. Because your going to use an AS that is not going to add much estrogen you won't have the estrogen to offset the effects of a test based AS. Soooooo you may get more aggressive. You may want to beat up various newbies here from time to time. But it should not affect on libido should be minimal. Especially if you're using Proviron. At least that's not a very common side effect based on the reports here over the past 6 years.
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Yeah I didn't word that right sorry. Forget it, you answered my question. Thanks!
 
One of the most shredded times i've ever been, was following an Eq/Halo stack about 10 years ago.

4-500mg/wk of Mexican Ultragan
20-30mg/d of Halo Mexican.

BMJ
 
MR. BMJ said:
One of the most shredded times i've ever been, was following an Eq/Halo stack about 10 years ago.

4-500mg/wk of Mexican Ultragan
20-30mg/d of Halo Mexican.

BMJ
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I bet your liver is shredded too after using HALO.
:p
 
rykertest said:
I have always run it with test in the past so had some mild bacne bu tnothing to lose sleep over.
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Lol - funny you say "lose sleep over" - cause that's one of the most reported side effects.
 
digit0x said:
most of you make your eq?
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No I wouldn't go so far as to say that. If you have a trusted powder supplier then it is MUCH cheaper and very easy to make. It's like getting 40 ml for what you would pay most UGs for 10 ml. Most buy UG though.
 
Ulter said:
Does eq shut you down more that suspected?? I don't understand that question. Eq shuts you down. Because your going to use an AS that is not going to add much estrogen you won't have the estrogen to offset the effects of a test based AS. Soooooo you may get more aggressive. You may want to beat up various newbies here from time to time. But it should not affect on libido should be minimal. Especially if you're using Proviron. At least that's not a very common side effect based on the reports here over the past 6 years.
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so i'm curious Ulter ...is this why EQ makes me so crazy?
i mean EQ gives me the worst anxiety i've ever known ...complete with chest pain + high b/p ...i've had to discontinue it twice ...and only xanax can save me (and the people around me)

does EQ have an impact on the adrenal glands particularly? or more so to cause that kind of reaction in me? ...nobody's ever been able to give me the mechanism by which EQ would cause that ...or would your above explanation be my answer?
 
Ulter said:
Like I said, the only thing I have ever tied it to is the clogging of capillaries by the rich, high RBC, blood. Which would give you shortness of breath and cause anxiety. As far as affects on CNS or adrenals I have nothing and have read nothing to support that.
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again just for my information ...could an AAS like WINNY have a similar effect on one's anxiety as EQ since it is also known to raise RBC (endurance) ...and cuz it acts as an anti-E?
 
all androgens can have CNS effects as direct stimulants and by altering neurotransmitter balances, however EQ seems to induce anxiety/panic attack symptoms moreso than say halo, for example, which usually produces anger/aggression. these effects are highly individualized.
 
To add onto what Triple J mentioned, all AAS wil also raise HCT as well. It's just that Eq and Anadrol seem to be the frontrunners for driving it highest.

BMJ
 
a creed said:
Lol - funny you say "lose sleep over" - cause that's one of the most reported side effects.
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I just accept the fact that I will get something like this, and it's usually pretty mild. Now if I was getting tons of cystic type boils on my back or something, that would be different, and I would be loseing said sleep. :)
 
Trojan Horse says that Equipose can carry a whole lot of soldiers in it's belly who are ready and waiting to unleash a whole lot of hell upon the enemy.
 
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