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Should FitFossil take AAS?

FitFossil

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Nope, I'm not pulling anyone's leg here (well not exactly)...
I had my hormones tested, and my testosterone is very low. I'm looking for ANY advice I can get on this, since I have no experience. For Testosterone, they only tested "Total Testosterone". Since it was well into the "low" range, is there any need to get a test for "Free Testosterone"?

What sort of alternatives will the doctor offer for treatment, and which ones would you recommend (as far as what I can get legally through the doc? - not looking into the "other side" yet) Anything I should definitely avoid?

Here is the thread where I posted my lab results, but I didn't get many replies. I'd greatly appreciate any advice as to what these numbers mean and how I should proceed. My regular doc is referring me to an endrocrinologist, but I know I'd get better info from this board. Thanks!

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=158937
 
FitFossil said:
Nope, I'm not pulling anyone's leg here (well not exactly)...
I had my hormones tested, and my testosterone is very low. I'm looking for ANY advice I can get on this, since I have no experience. For Testosterone, they only tested "Total Testosterone". Since it was well into the "low" range, is there any need to get a test for "Free Testosterone"?

What sort of alternatives will the doctor offer for treatment, and which ones would you recommend (as far as what I can get legally through the doc? - not looking into the "other side" yet) Anything I should definitely avoid?

Here is the thread where I posted my lab results, but I didn't get many replies. I'd greatly appreciate any advice as to what these numbers mean and how I should proceed. My regular doc is referring me to an endrocrinologist, but I know I'd get better info from this board. Thanks!

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=158937


Buy the book "Natural Hormone Replacement for Women" by U. Reis This is an excellent book!

The natural testosterone gel recommended in the book are your best choice for long term therapy.
There is a patch for women being developed as we speak.
Tiny sub Q test implants have been used in Austrailia for many years and they are very excellent and maybe the very best choice but you can't get them in the USA.

The doc is not in favor of test shots since they are in ester form and as such are not completely natural or identicle to our natural testosterone. Also generally speaking shots are given in pretty large doses like 50 mg every 2 weeks. This causes a high spike far above the normal range in the first few days and then the levels crash after the first week. If you are going to do injections it is far better to do very frequent small doses with a tiny insulin syringe for measuring accuracy. I would try 25 mg per week at most and inject every 3-4 days if you are using the common Test cyp, enanthate or sust.


The gel is rubbed to ther lower inner arm daily. You can adjust the dose daily to suit your needs for the day. For example if you anticipate a very stressful day either mentally or physically then you can up the dose for the day.

My wife is currently on the gel as her total level came back at 28. We haven't noticed a difference yet because she is currently on a nandrolone cycle and as such her energy level and sex drive is good.

Free Test is a better test as it measures the amount of unbound testosterone which is the testosterone that we end up using in daily bodily functions.

The gel is made up only at "compounding" pharmacies. Strength is usually 3-5mg per dose(.2ml)

The gel will keep your test levels in the normal range or high normal ,unless you use quite a bit, and this is a good thing for health reasons . You really don't want to be walking around with very high test levels for months or years on end as you are certain to develope a crappy lipid profile and androgenic sides.

Your test level is in the low normal range but if you have symptoms of low test then by all means get some gel. The most common symptoms of low test are low to no sex drive, inability or great difficulty reaching orgasm even with direct clitoral stimulation, general fatigue, lack of self confidence, low endurance, and poor balance/ coordination. Also muscle tone is often poor and fat is easily put on. Note: many of these symptoms are the same as hypothyroidism but your TSH is normal so don't worry about that.

Some ladies that are generally hairless and not heavily muscled have a normal test level in your range and do just fine so you should be very aware of the symptoms of low testosterone.

Some ladies choose to suplement their test levels to the high normal range for various reasons even though they have a perfectly normal test level.

Hope this helps

RG
:)
 
MarshallPenniford said:
If that's you in your avatar, I can't imagine why you would want to.

Yes, that is me. Trouble is, I haven't had a sex drive in 5 years. It disappeared never to return when I went on the BC pill for two years. I feel like I'm missing an important part of my life. I'm 38 and not near ready to be put out to pasture. It's not fair for my husband either. I'm not looking to build big muscles, I just want a tiny bit of libido. Of course, if the added test supplementation helps me to maintain what I have that'd definitely be a bonus.
 
Sista you are doing very well...nice abbs....I a mnot sure how you managed to get that body with a low test levels but then again 20 is not NO test.....seems not be to be enough for you though as evidenced by lack of sexual desire.
GET OFF THE PILL NOW.....the pill has be proven to reduce libido significantly in most women.

To get things going in a hurry try injecting a 100mg of test cyp, enanthate or sust once and then get on the gel.......but the pill must go!

Test level has to be fairly high in order to see an increase in sex drive.......at least high normal usually. This can be done with the gel.

Best of luck

RG
:)
 
Oh I should add that steroids will work too but nowhere near as good as testosterone. Also test is not a foreign hormone to the female body and it has many health advantages as long as you don't get levels much above high normal.

Remember to buy that book.

RG:)
 
FitFossil said:
38 and not near ready to be put out to pasture. It's not fair for my husband either. I'm not looking to build big muscles, I just want a tiny bit of libido.

I have a question. I see threads about low sex drive on this board all the time and there's a big thing that I don't understand. When someone that they have low sex drive, does it just mean that they are no longer interested in initiating sex? Or does it also mean that they also have trouble getting aroused?

Another, related question - If it's just a matter of initiation, how does it bother one to not get what one doesn't want in the first place? Is it mainly a concern about the relationship?
 
makedah said:


I have a question. I see threads about low sex drive on this board all the time and there's a big thing that I don't understand. When someone that they have low sex drive, does it just mean that they are no longer interested in initiating sex? Or does it also mean that they also have trouble getting aroused?

Another, related question - If it's just a matter of initiation, how does it bother one to not get what one doesn't want in the first place? Is it mainly a concern about the relationship?


Both.... as well as a lack of sexual fantacy.

With females I have discovered that the mental aspect of sex is extremely important. They can have a great testosterone level but if the mind is not envolved then no desire will come. ie: If anything is bugging a women be it stress, lack of confidence, worry, uncertainty, doubt, poor body image etc then sexual desire never even gets off the ground.

With men this is not case as men are simply too visual.

I think both partners need to "give in" to each others desires at times and this is critical for a good relationship. I have been married to a wonderful women for 16 years and I can tell ya that relationships are all about "give and take" and compromize and that includes sex. If one partner doesn't do these things then the relationship is stressed and usually doomed. There is no place for selfishness in a relationship......unfortunately I have found that men are most to blame here.

RG


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Realgains said:
Sista you are doing very well...nice abbs....I a mnot sure how you managed to get that body with a low test levels but then again 20 is not NO test.....seems not be to be enough for you though as evidenced by lack of sexual desire.
GET OFF THE PILL NOW.....the pill has be proven to reduce libido significantly in most women.

To get things going in a hurry try injecting a 100mg of test cyp, enanthate or sust once and then get on the gel.......but the pill must go!

Test level has to be fairly high in order to see an increase in sex drive.......at least high normal usually. This can be done with the gel.

Best of luck

RG
:)

Thanks for the abs compliment :) I've been off the pill over 3 years. It did horrible things to me, killing my libido was the least of it. After stopping the pill, the other problems went away, but my libido stayed away. I've ordered the book you recommended - thanks!
 
makedah said:

I have a question. I see threads about low sex drive on this board all the time and there's a big thing that I don't understand. When someone that they have low sex drive, does it just mean that they are no longer interested in initiating sex? Or does it also mean that they also have trouble getting aroused?

Another, related question - If it's just a matter of initiation, how does it bother one to not get what one doesn't want in the first place? Is it mainly a concern about the relationship?
Since RG already answered from the medical perspective, I'll answer from a personal perspective. My libido's never been particularly high, but it was always there. I enjoyed looking at handsome men (which my husband definitely is!) and having sexual thoughts. Although I wasn't a frequent initiator (which probably goes back to my "good girl" upbringing), it was easy to be aroused when the opportunity presented itself (meaning no probs in the sensation department).

This strangely changed when I took the BC pill. I really didn't notice the libido loss at first, because the Pill sent me into a deep depression. I was on heavy medication and that's what I associated with the libido loss. During that time I'd avoid sex, but when I did have it, arousal was there, even though the desire wasn't.

Even when I got off the Pill and the depression lifted, I still had little desire but no problem with arousal. It's just in the last few months that arousal started to be a problem as well (& I've been off the Pill over 3 yrs). That was not something I was going to put up with, so I had my hormones tested. It was from my reading (including this board) I learned that libido is not "all in your head" (well part can be) and that low libido/arousal can result from a hormonal imbalance AND be treated.

Even though women have about appox 1/10 the testosterone men do, sufficient testosterone for women is important for many bodily functions other than sex drive, and I want ALL my bodily functions to function :D
 
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