Severe mid-cycle insomnia, can't sleep for anything!?!

[Izzman]

Hey all, I am currently on a test E 600mg/week & tren 75mg EOD (just started the tren, 3 shots in) stack and am going on into week six. For the last week or so, I haven't been able to sleep worth shit! And its killing me! I need to be able to sleep to focus on my studies since I am at a very rigorous point in my college career. If I could sleep 6-7 good hours a night, I would be happy, but I've been averaging 2-4 hours and I feel like total crap waking up. I used trazadone for a few weeks and now that seems to no longer have an effect in helping me sleep. I don't know what to do but I can't keep going on like this, its driving me crazy! I will try melatonin again but I remember that not working so well for me in the past, would anyone have any suggestions?

 

[justinjones1963]

I know the feeling - I have sleeping problems all the time.

If you have access to a doc get some Ambien - that wil knock you on your ass! It is the best sleeping medication I have ever used. I had some about 2 years ago and it was wonderful.

I do not like taking drugs all the time so when that prescription ran out I read up a bit on homeopathic solutions. I have found that melatonin works for me. I take about three tabs before bed and that does the trick. Lately I have been throwing in ZMA and that combo works really well.

I have also noticed Choline Bitartrate (which is a nootropic) makes me sleepy. I am not sure why. I no longer take it but it may be something you want to try out.

Lastly, I have read that Phenibut is a very, very good sleeping agent. I have never used it though. Bulk Nutrition has it (check out the reviews there). ("Phenibut Powder" is under the "Mood Enhancers" section). From what I have read it is powerful stuff so be careful with the dosages.

 

[markshark]

Hey all, I am currently on a test E 600mg/week & tren 75mg EOD (just started the tren, 3 shots in) stack and am going on into week six. For the last week or so, I haven't been able to sleep worth shit! And its killing me! I need to be able to sleep to focus on my studies since I am at a very rigorous point in my college career. If I could sleep 6-7 good hours a night, I would be happy, but I've been averaging 2-4 hours and I feel like total crap waking up. I used trazadone for a few weeks and now that seems to no longer have an effect in helping me sleep. I don't know what to do but I can't keep going on like this, its driving me crazy! I will try melatonin again but I remember that not working so well for me in the past, would anyone have any suggestions?

best idea: call or see your doc and tell him things are really stressful for u right now, u got a lot going on and too much on ur mind and have been having serious trouble sleeping and if u could try a sleep aid to help u get some sleep. ive been through it all bro. otc doesnt do shit to me neither does traz. u need some lunesta or ambien to try. my favorite is klonopin but docs are reluctant to prescribe that unless u show signs of serious anxiety disorder./ good luck.

 

[ALIN]

Hey all, I am currently on a test E 600mg/week & tren 75mg EOD (just started the tren, 3 shots in) stack and am going on into week six. For the last week or so, I haven't been able to sleep worth shit! And its killing me! I need to be able to sleep to focus on my studies since I am at a very rigorous point in my college career. If I could sleep 6-7 good hours a night, I would be happy, but I've been averaging 2-4 hours and I feel like total crap waking up. I used trazadone for a few weeks and now that seems to no longer have an effect in helping me sleep. I don't know what to do but I can't keep going on like this, its driving me crazy! I will try melatonin again but I remember that not working so well for me in the past, would anyone have any suggestions?

side effect of tren is insomnia.

 

[psychedout]

Pretty crazy to here such big time insomnia from such a low dose of tren. I was down from about 8 hours per night to 6.5 when on 100mg EOD (the one and only time i've ever used tren). I know each person reacts differently to each drug, but 2-4 hours? It sounds like tren is only part of the picture, i'd suspect stress is probably a big culprit here, seeing as I know you have more than a full plate of things on the go.

 

[markshark]

side effect of tren is insomnia.

exact reason i have enough sleep pills around to tranquilize an elephant right now. tren + insomnia + responsibilities = suicide. tren + sleeping pills + responsiblities = heaven.

 

[psychedout]

exact reason i have enough sleep pills around to tranquilize an elephant right now. tren + insomnia + responsibilities = suicide. tren + sleeping pills + responsiblities = heaven.

Gotta love bodybuilding. Everytime you take another drug you need to add another to cancel out another and then another to cancel out another LOL. It kinda sucks sometimes, but eh, its worth it.

 

[vitamix]

Ambien, Benzo's, Lunesta ...... but watch out for the addiction

 

[anthony518]

Gotta love bodybuilding. Everytime you take another drug you need to add another to cancel out another and then another to cancel out another LOL. It kinda sucks sometimes, but eh, its worth it.

Thats why i smoke bud. Get some good ass bud. After a day of work working out and kids, nothing better then a bowl for some fire, green. like the one in mty hand.

 

[SwolK]

I have sleeping problems whether I am on cycle or not.
Trazadone Sucks! I was on it for about 6 months, and it gave me the worst hangovers of my life.
Like others said, call your doc and tell him you cant sleep. Ambien is good, but it is habbit forming and the doc will not prescribe for long periods of time if at all. From what the doc told me Lunesta sucks, I have not tried but that is what he said.
The best for me is Sonata, and it can be used for long periods of time.

If you want somthing that the doc does not have to prescribe, try Unisom(the blue not red bottle). it is OTC and works well. you can always add benedryl if the Unisom is not quite enough. this is ok for short periods of time, maybe a few weeks.
I am not a doc but these have been my experiances. good luck

 

[Izzman]

Pretty crazy to here such big time insomnia from such a low dose of tren. I was down from about 8 hours per night to 6.5 when on 100mg EOD (the one and only time i've ever used tren). I know each person reacts differently to each drug, but 2-4 hours? It sounds like tren is only part of the picture, i'd suspect stress is probably a big culprit here, seeing as I know you have more than a full plate of things on the go.

Wow, long time bro! Thanks for chiming in, I have been under alot of stress lately with college and all, the work is REALLY overwhelming, I never feel ahead or satisfied and am always playing catch up it seems. I just picked up some melatonin again, hopefully it'll work pretty good with the trazadone. If things continue this way, I will go see a doctor soon because I can't take much more of this. My cycle started off great, but its frustrating that midway through I can't seem to grow as well due to lack of sleep. BTW, you ever on MSN anymore? PM me, we NEED to catch up, its been too damn long bro!

 

[tin2]

Imovane ... no sleeping pill hangover the next day

 

[BigCracker]

A college boy should be no stranger to weed. Take a few bong hits(water pipes filter out a lot of the nasty shit)and count sheep. I couldn't diet w/o 420. No groggy feeling the next day like w/ RX sleep aids.

 

[petalpusher]

Ambien, Benzo's, Lunesta ...... but watch out for the addiction

Ambien is awesome stuff. Lunesta just didn't do anything for me or my friends.

 

[anthony518]

A college boy should be no stranger to weed. Take a few bong hits(water pipes filter out a lot of the nasty shit)and count sheep. I couldn't diet w/o 420. No groggy feeling the next day like w/ RX sleep aids.

well said my friend well said. lol


I can't diet without it either. I only smoke the really good stuff. I don't feel shity the next day.

 

[BigCracker]

well said my friend well said. lol


I can't diet without it either. I only smoke the really good stuff. I don't feel shity the next day.

Yeah, me too. I wouldn't smoke mexi-brick if it was given to me for free.

 

[anthony518]

hate that shit. I got some good ass out door nugs right now. it does the trick though.

 

[mr. snakes]

Izzman:

GHB has always worked great for me.

 

[psychedout]

Izzman:

GHB has always worked great for me.

Talk of rec drugs is strictly prohibited on this board.

 

[petalpusher]

Izzman:

GHB has always worked great for me.

Risky stuff. Although I know it has been used for sleep, I've seen a few people get REALLY messed up from barely OD'ing on that stuff. They start off chillin, next thing you know they're on the ground passed out puking on themselves...

 

[njmuscleguy]

sleeping pills definitely help, but like anything else, the body builds a tolerance to them... so you may want to get 2 or 3 of them and rotate.... try to stay away from the benzo's.... addictive and they can mess you up... you may want to try the natural route, stuff like valerian, chamomile... make some tea before bed or find the pill versions at any drug / vitamin store

 

[markshark]

Hey all, I am currently on a test E 600mg/week & tren 75mg EOD (just started the tren, 3 shots in) stack and am going on into week six. For the last week or so, I haven't been able to sleep worth shit! And its killing me! I need to be able to sleep to focus on my studies since I am at a very rigorous point in my college career. If I could sleep 6-7 good hours a night, I would be happy, but I've been averaging 2-4 hours and I feel like total crap waking up. I used trazadone for a few weeks and now that seems to no longer have an effect in helping me sleep. I don't know what to do but I can't keep going on like this, its driving me crazy! I will try melatonin again but I remember that not working so well for me in the past, would anyone have any suggestions?

im having the same problems. u still makin gains off little sleep?