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strentrainin

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Well I hate to be another newb on here posting about a cycle or possible cycle but I've noticed a lot of good support and positive feedback from lurking around this forum for awhile. So here we go.

Stats: 24yrs old, been training on and off since I was 17, I've been training consistent 4-5 days a week for the past 2 years with the occasional break. 5'10, 160lbs, 13-14%BF currently.. yes I am a hard gainer. I've had trouble gaining and holding onto weight since I was 16. The most i've ever weighed is 171 which was last March when I ran my first cycle (Test E @ 250 for 10 weeks). I'd like to get back to at least that. I started my first cycle at 152lbs and with a good clean diet and lots of training and little cardio I saw the pounds pile on. After PCT and after the Test cleared my system I hovered around 166-167lbs while continuing to work out. Then into Fall I had some stress pile on with school and some other personal hiccups that caused me to work out less and my diet to fall apart. I recently picked back up on my diet 2 weeks ago and have been back in the gym training hard for about 1-2 months now. It's just really really hard for me to gain weight and hang on to it. Diet and Training have played a huge role in helping me sneak on a lb here and there but now I'm ready to get my 2nd cycle in place and I know there are some vets on here that I would love to get a little help from.

Here is what I am looking at:
-I have 2 vials Test E ( I had great results from my first cycle at a low dose) I may just run it alone @ 500mg pinning twice a week if thats what some of you advise
-I also have Deca and Mast available I just don't know if I want to throw one of those in. Mast seems to be more of a cutter and may help combat E related sides, and Deca sounds great, I know it seems to be very suppressive so If I run it. I'd like to keep it at a low dose but high enough to run along good with the Test @ 500 a week. So maybe 300mg a week.
- Dbol or Beast. I would really like to kickstart the cycle since the Test will take a few weeks to get going. This is what I'm really leaning towards def. throwing in there as a Frontload with the Test. I'm sure most of you would recommend Dbol being that I'm so small and it might not be as harsh as the Beast. So if i ran this Id be TEST 1-10/12, Dbol/Beast: 1-4 20-40mg ed.

I noticed on my first cycle, I'm fairly prone to water retention and the last few weeks of the cycle I noticed slightly puffy nipples, nothing severe, PCT/Nolva took care of that. So if I runs Dbol, Deca, or Beast with Test I'd def. make sure I had an AI, Adex on hand in case of sides. My PCT would vary depending on what I run and I'd like to hear some suggestions from you guys so that I can make the best decision and pick up what I need before getting everything in order to run. Another note I'd like to point out was that my body really like the Test E, aside from the occasional Night sweat, wet dream, slightly oily skin, and minor mood swing. I noticed positives such as euphoria at times, more confidence in all aspects of life, overall good feeling, enjoyed things more, hell of a lot more aggression in the gym, hit personal bests in the gym, and gained 20lbs. So I def. plan on running 10-12 weeks of it again, just would like to get thoughts on what 2nd compound would be best suitable for my stats and 2nd cycle. Lean mass is def. my goal and at 160lbs I'd like to beef up and hold onto what I can. My diet will be spot on and I will be doing as I did last time: Eating like a horse, and training as hard as I can (I already am). I appreciate any suggestions or guidance you fellas give me. Anymore info or questions you guys need to know. Just ask. Thanks in advance.
 
Ok a lot of people will disagree with me here. I had similar problems to you (have never been able to put on weight), but your doing the right thing coming here for help, these guys are great.

3-4 Months ago i weighed in at 162lbs. I'm now at 188-190lbs 12%BF, Massive metabolism to.

THE MOST IMPORTANT thing for me, more than juice, more than working out was my diet.

If you put the effort in, make time to eat the right food, you will gain regardless of juice.

I went for, 4,500 Cals, 300g Protein, 370g Carbs ... Mainly Chicken, Broccoli, Rice, Tuna, Oatmeals, Avacado, Olives.. That sorta thing.

Immediately noticed my sleep pattern improved, more energy overall, better moods... And then came the weight. I promise, that should be your number 1. And for that little bit extra hit it with a mass gainer powder.

If you wanna go OTT with it and insist juice then your gurantee'd wait with

500mg Test E E.Week x 12 weeks.
Dbol / Beastdrol 30mg Day x 4 weeks

If you are having Gyno problems, PCT is massively important.

If you do that, you will gain weight. Don't cheat yourself, Commit, put the effort in and push yourself.

Good luck!
 
I agree 100% about diet being the number 1 ingredient and that will my be my main focus whether I run a cycle now or later on down the road. Right now I'm eating right around 4000 calories, mostly eggs, chicken, fish, oats, bacon, bagels, broccoli, pasta, protein shakes, little bit of fruit mostly bananas and strawberries. My diet right now is clean as it has been. I'm not in any rush to do an AAS cycle but when I do I'll prob be leaning towards Test:1-12 @ 500mg a week, and dbol or beast @ 30mg ed 1-4. I'm going to try to squeeze out a few more calories in my diet, even though its pretty hard as it is to hit 4000. I'm averaging 210-300g a protein per day and about 250-320 on carbs. I appreciate the reply.
 
start upping those cals NOW.. not when u start the cycle.. start practicing now and then continue to ramp up as you start the cycle.

test is great.. use it again.. id go w/ beast at 20m.. maybe dbol at 30mg..

research more about pct and post up what you are thinking.
 
All I can say is make sure the diets clean like you say it is, are you into sport? If your not don't bother
With cardio at the moment as you'll be burning cals with anaerobic and your wanting to bulk.

But yeh, hit the weights hard, eat clean, and if you feel ready start pumping that dbol and test.

Will be following the thread to see how you do. Best of luck bro
 
I haven't ate or watched what I eat this hard since my last cycle. There is always room for improvement and ways to pile on more calls/protein/carbs/fat etc. This week I've consistently kept it around 3500-4200 which for me is the most i've taken in in a long time. I'm doing a 5 day split in the gym with Wednesday and Saturday being my rest days. I may post my weekly workout schedule after I get going good and have all my weights figured out for certain and get some of you guys to critique or offer suggestions to put on mass. I started this diet 2 weeks ago at 157lbs I weighed in today right at 160-161 so I'm seeing a little bit pay off. I'll take a pound or so week.

Supps right now are ON Whey in the morning and after workout, ON Casein before bed mixed with peanut butter, olive oil, half a banana and 1% milk, creatine monohydrate before workout, and sometimes in post workout shake, Multi Vitamin, Fish Oils, glutamine, and vitamin C tab on days where I don't feel like I get enough C. I also forgot to mention a big part of my diet is rice, tuna, and sweet potatoes.

I def. plan on researching more on the best PCT for my proposed cycle and laying it out for you guys to look at. Then I can make arrangements to get my gear. Be in touch.
 
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Ok, So yesterday I ended the day with 4100 cals, roughly, 235g of protein, 380 carbs, and 160 g of fat. I'm sleeping good at night averaging 8-10 hours of sound sleep at night. Training is going well. Look forward to seeing the pounds to show here in the next couple of weeks. I'd like to get as much as I can naturally before running my 2nd cycle. Today will be my off day, since I've gone 4 days straight without a break.
 
Lots of people will slate me for this. But if ur bf is low, metabolism is high, meaning if u want to cut u can easily. Then try this, I know it's easier said than done.

4100 cals - perfect good job
380g carbs - again perfect

235g - protein, for your weight not bad, wouldn't hurt to up it to 280-300g

160g fat - you could literally double that to 300-320, just try keep saturates down.

I know it's an extreme diet. But you WILL bulk and put size on with it. Even at your current rate. So good job man.
 
I'm having a little bit of trouble on days getting that amount of fat. Any suggestions on food, etc I can eat to add some more fat cals.

Also here is the PCT if I run this: Weeks 1-10/12 : Test E @ 500mg a week 200-250mg Mon. & 200-250 Thurs.
Weeks 1-4: Dbol or Beat @ 30mg ed
Weeks 1-12 (if necessary): Adex .25 eod if needed
Weeks 14-18 Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20

My question is it necessary to run both Clomid and Nolva for PCT? What would be the benefits, pros, cons of running both like that or just Clomid either 100/100/50/50 or 50/50/25/25. Having trouble locating some Armidex right now.... so I will def. try to get that in place and have it on hand before I run my cycle... which will be a month or 2.
 
strentrainin said:
I'm having a little bit of trouble on days getting that amount of fat. Any suggestions on food, etc I can eat to add some more fat cals.

Also here is the PCT if I run this: Weeks 1-10/12 : Test E @ 500mg a week 200-250mg Mon. & 200-250 Thurs.
Weeks 1-4: Dbol or Beat @ 30mg ed
Weeks 1-12 (if necessary): Adex .25 eod if needed
Weeks 14-18 Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20

My question is it necessary to run both Clomid and Nolva for PCT? What would be the benefits, pros, cons of running both like that or just Clomid either 100/100/50/50 or 50/50/25/25. Having trouble locating some Armidex right now.... so I will def. try to get that in place and have it on hand before I run my cycle... which will be a month or 2.
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Eat a tablespoon of Peanut butter in the AM before your shake, and Snack on Mixed nuts or almonds thru out the day ,both are calorie dense and contain omega 3 fatty acids and micro nutrients.
If it was me i would add the masterdon also 300-400mgs mast acts as an ai so bloat is kept at a min. plus you'll look awsome after the cycle is over.


And Whats with all these clomid/nova PCT's Lately?

Get some Post Cycle and Unleashed for your PCT from NTBM.
 
Will do. I snack on almonds pretty regularly and always add PB and olive oil to my shakes, etc. Going to add a few things here and there to my diet to get the Cals up a little more.

Radar, If I run the Mast at 300 a week, should I split that up as I do the Test and run it weeks 1-10 (same amount of time i run test)?

Will def. be ordering some Postcycle, Unleased and Forma for PCT.
 
you're working out way too fucking often and who cares if your diet is super clean. Nobody who is 5'10" should be doing any steroids at 150-160 lbs. You need to learn how to train and eat first. And you need to get good at doing that correctly and consistently for at least a couple years before you start doing steroids. If you're not serious about lifting/eating/training, why bother with AAS?

Look into a 5x5 or a 2 way split. You shouldn't be working out more than 3 days a week. You should eat like it's your job and you're trying to get a raise. 3 or 4 McDoubles with a couple small fries and a hot fudge sundae a day (one meal of course) won't hurt you either.
 
ceo said:
you're working out way too fucking often and who cares if your diet is super clean. Nobody who is 5'10" should be doing any steroids at 150-160 lbs. You need to learn how to train and eat first. And you need to get good at doing that correctly and consistently for at least a couple years before you start doing steroids. If you're not serious about lifting/eating/training, why bother with AAS?

Look into a 5x5 or a 2 way split. You shouldn't be working out more than 3 days a week. You should eat like it's your job and you're trying to get a raise. 3 or 4 McDoubles with a couple small fries and a hot fudge sundae a day (one meal of course) won't hurt you either.
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I usually don't work out that ofter. I typically lift 4-5 days a week one of those days being an ab/stretch day. I don't feel like that is too much.I actually just started the 5x5 Monday:ON Tuesday:OFF Wednesday:ON Thursday:ABs/Stretch Friday:ON Saturday:OFF SUNDAY:Abs/Stretch. I will stick with this and see how it works for me. Personally I'd rather have a super clean diet than eating 4000 mcdonalds burgers and fried chicken calories. I don't eat "super" clean everyday. I have cheat days and cheat meals. It's not like I'm 17 years old and can eat whatever I want without seeing around the waist. Plus eating clean makes me feel better, energy, appearance, etc. I do agree that a few cheese burgers and a milk shake here and there wouldn't kill me

Also, I'm not on AAS right now, nor am starting anytime real soon.. but I am getting feedback and trying to get it all in order so that I can get when I can... I can't just got to the CVS and say he here's what I want.. may be that easy for some of you.. not for me. So when I have the opportunity I'd like to take advantage of it.. I weighed in today at 161 so I've put on 4lbs in about 3-4 weeks since I started hard back in the gym and eating like a cow. As long as I am seeing a pound or more here and there I'm fine with it. I'm also not one of those guys that wants to use AAS because I think it's just gonna blow me up like a balloon without eating or training hard. Right now my main concern is diet and figuring out the best training regiment to put on some lean mass.... Appreciate all the replies so far.
 
At 5'10" you better be 180+ to start juicin bro....the best advice I can give you is:

You want to be 240 lbs, you have to eat like someone who is 240 lbs
 
the_alcatraz said:
At 5'10" you better be 180+ to start juicin bro....the best advice I can give you is:

You want to be 240 lbs, you have to eat like someone who is 240 lbs
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Don't know who said I wanted to be 240lbs... I couldn't be 240lbs if Doctors medically tried to make me be 240lbs. I would hate to look like that nor do I want to.. my preference is a lean look, I'd rather be lean and defined than huge where I couldn't even scratch my own ass. I might not be 180lbs for years. When I say it's hard for me gain and hold weight, I mean it. . So aside from that I set a realistic goal at 170-175 natty. then I might run my 2nd cycle i'm playing it all by ear and I am SERIOUS about it, for those who seem to think differently

Btw, I don't think my diet and training can get anymore serious than it has been over the past year. My health and well being has always a been a first priority of mine... Again, thanks for all the input. Lots of helpful folks on here.
 
strentrainin said:
I usually don't work out that ofter. I typically lift 4-5 days a week one of those days being an ab/stretch day. I don't feel like that is too much.I actually just started the 5x5 Monday:ON Tuesday:OFF Wednesday:ON Thursday:ABs/Stretch Friday:ON Saturday:OFF SUNDAY:Abs/Stretch. I will stick with this and see how it works for me. Personally I'd rather have a super clean diet than eating 4000 mcdonalds burgers and fried chicken calories. I don't eat "super" clean everyday. I have cheat days and cheat meals. It's not like I'm 17 years old and can eat whatever I want without seeing around the waist. Plus eating clean makes me feel better, energy, appearance, etc. I do agree that a few cheese burgers and a milk shake here and there wouldn't kill me

Also, I'm not on AAS right now, nor am starting anytime real soon.. but I am getting feedback and trying to get it all in order so that I can get when I can... I can't just got to the CVS and say he here's what I want.. may be that easy for some of you.. not for me. So when I have the opportunity I'd like to take advantage of it.. I weighed in today at 161 so I've put on 4lbs in about 3-4 weeks since I started hard back in the gym and eating like a cow. As long as I am seeing a pound or more here and there I'm fine with it. I'm also not one of those guys that wants to use AAS because I think it's just gonna blow me up like a balloon without eating or training hard. Right now my main concern is diet and figuring out the best training regiment to put on some lean mass.... Appreciate all the replies so far.
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So you started the 5x5 today? Because you just said you were doing a 5 way split (suck ass way for a hard gainer to train - you'll barely gain anything training that way). I didn't say your diet had to be all McDonalds, but you want to know how to get in some extra cals? Hit that dollar menu once a day. Don't be scared to put an ounce of fat on, jesus fucking christ you're 24, not 54, and skinny as all fuck. You look like you just walked out of a concentration camp after 4 years. Eat a fucking cheeseburger!

Sorry for the confusion thinking you were ready to jump on a cycle. Every post you've made in this thread you've talked about your cycle, so I'm not sure how I could have gotten that impression! Glad to hear you're willing to wait though.

Focus on getting at least 2 grams of protein per pound of body weight. As your weight goes up, so does your protein consumption. Eat all the time. Don't ever be hungry. Drink an extra shake or two if you can't eat. Throw 3-4 tablespoons of EVOO into your shakes (not your PWO shake obviously) and you'll quickly add some cals and good fats.

If you don't start putting on weight fairly quickly eating like that and doing the 5x5, switch to a routine that only has you lifting weights 2 days a week (for truly serious hard gainers). I'd expect you to gain at least 12-15 lean pounds in 3 months if you do it right.
 
shoot me a pm Brother i have over 40 yrs in this field ,we can put everything in overdrive!
 
Dude if your training and diet were in point you wouldnt weigh 160lbs. You have a lot to learn about training and eating. I hate when I hear people say im a hard gainer or I cant lose weight. The fact is you can, you just dont know how to reach your goal. You have to eat big to get big. And train compound movements.

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ceo said:
So you started the 5x5 today? Because you just said you were doing a 5 way split (suck ass way for a hard gainer to train - you'll barely gain anything training that way). I didn't say your diet had to be all McDonalds, but you want to know how to get in some extra cals? Hit that dollar menu once a day. Don't be scared to put an ounce of fat on, jesus fucking christ you're 24, not 54, and skinny as all fuck. You look like you just walked out of a concentration camp after 4 years. Eat a fucking cheeseburger!

Sorry for the confusion thinking you were ready to jump on a cycle. Every post you've made in this thread you've talked about your cycle, so I'm not sure how I could have gotten that impression! Glad to hear you're willing to wait though.

Focus on getting at least 2 grams of protein per pound of body weight. As your weight goes up, so does your protein consumption. Eat all the time. Don't ever be hungry. Drink an extra shake or two if you can't eat. Throw 3-4 tablespoons of EVOO into your shakes (not your PWO shake obviously) and you'll quickly add some cals and good fats.

If you don't start putting on weight fairly quickly eating like that and doing the 5x5, switch to a routine that only has you lifting weights 2 days a week (for truly serious hard gainers). I'd expect you to gain at least 12-15 lean pounds in 3 months if you do it right.
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I will do that. I actually had a greasy ole homemade pepperjack lb hamburger last night with a milkshake with casein and evoo before bed. I make sure I have a high protein, fat shake before bed. I apologize for making seem like i'm fixing to start my 2nd cycle, i'm not. I'm just trying to get some advice on what all i should have in line for when I do get ready to run it. Sorry for the confusion. Right now my focus is bulking, clean as possible naturally. So DIET and find the right TRAINING routine is all i'm focusing on at this time. Like I said my goal is to put on 15lbs naturally so 172-175 is my goal. I've been there before but over the late summer and fall, I had some personal stuff going on and my diet and training went to shit. With that being said JOEBLOW I do know what to do.... I've done it before... I just need critiquing, (the reason everyone posts on here; to help or get help) and I've gotta stick with it (doesn't just happen over night) wouldn't be posting on here if I had it all figured out.

CEO, yes I'm starting the 5x5 today. I"m still researching on it to make sure I know exactly what I'm doing. I'm sure it'll take a little bit to get the weights figured out and get in a good rhythm. My question is should I stick with one warm up set, then do 5x5 keeping it only 5 reps or to failure on the last set? Today will be: Squat, Bench, Overhead Press.

Radar, you'll be hearing from me. Gonna shot you a PM. Wide open for suggestions.
 
First go at 5x5 today. Went like this...
Squat: 1x12 @ 135, 1x5 @ 185, 1x5 @ 185, 1x5 @190, 1x5 @195, 1x5 @ 205

Overhead Barbell Press: 1x10 @ 85, 1x5 @ 105, 1x5 @ 105, 1x5 @ 105, 1x5 @ 115, 1x5 @115

Bench: 1x12 @ 135, 1x5 @ 185, 1x5 @ 190, 1x5 @190, 1x5 200, 1x5 200

Man, I didn't realize how much going heavy for some many sets can put you on the floor, Felt good. About to chow down on some chicken, pasta, and a sweet potato.
 
strentrainin said:
First go at 5x5 today. Went like this...
Squat: 1x12 @ 135, 1x5 @ 185, 1x5 @ 185, 1x5 @190, 1x5 @195, 1x5 @ 205

Overhead Barbell Press: 1x10 @ 85, 1x5 @ 105, 1x5 @ 105, 1x5 @ 105, 1x5 @ 115, 1x5 @115

Bench: 1x12 @ 135, 1x5 @ 185, 1x5 @ 190, 1x5 @190, 1x5 200, 1x5 200

Man, I didn't realize how much going heavy for some many sets can put you on the floor, Felt good. About to chow down on some chicken, pasta, and a sweet potato.
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Honestly leave the juice alone for 5 years and get your strength and size up. You have alot to gain naturally before you can really benefit from living on the dark side. All juice will do is speed you through your natural potential. It sounds good but were do you turn then? Save it for when you need it like getting from a 400 bench to 500.

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strentrainin said:
Don't know who said I wanted to be 240lbs... I couldn't be 240lbs if Doctors medically tried to make me be 240lbs. I would hate to look like that nor do I want to.. my preference is a lean look, I'd rather be lean and defined than huge where I couldn't even scratch my own ass. I might not be 180lbs for years. When I say it's hard for me gain and hold weight, I mean it. . So aside from that I set a realistic goal at 170-175 natty. then I might run my 2nd cycle i'm playing it all by ear and I am SERIOUS about it, for those who seem to think differently

Btw, I don't think my diet and training can get anymore serious than it has been over the past year. My health and well being has always a been a first priority of mine... Again, thanks for all the input. Lots of helpful folks on here.
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If you're looking to be 170 lbs at 5'10", maybe you should play tennins or something. No offense, but you can gain 10 lbs of lean muscle a year quote easily....if everything is in check....just saying....your goals do not match what you are trying to do.
 
the_alcatraz said:
If you're looking to be 170 lbs at 5'10", maybe you should play tennins or something. No offense, but you can gain 10 lbs of lean muscle a year quote easily....if everything is in check....just saying....your goals do not match what you are trying to do.
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There is a difference in looking retarded big for my frame than bulking up and putting on 10-20lbs, maybe more on down the road and depending on how I feel and look. Your goals may differ from mine but I'd hate to be 240lbs. I'm not running AAS right now or any time real soon for that matter. I apologize for all the confusion. I'm trying to eat, eat, and eat some more and just started the 5x5 to put on what I can naturally and try to hang on to it. We'll keep those interested updated, as well as post with concerns and questions as I feel I need something, Not to get bashed about trying to put on some lean mass, instead of looking like a 240lb freak.
 
you gotta log everything you eat.. take pictures and post it to a thread, a blog or whatever floats your boat.. if you are not gaining enough just eat more.

5x5 will work great just keep eating and taking in cals..

good luck
 
strentrainin said:
There is a difference in looking retarded big for my frame than bulking up and putting on 10-20lbs, maybe more on down the road and depending on how I feel and look. Your goals may differ from mine but I'd hate to be 240lbs. I'm not running AAS right now or any time real soon for that matter. I apologize for all the confusion. I'm trying to eat, eat, and eat some more and just started the 5x5 to put on what I can naturally and try to hang on to it. We'll keep those interested updated, as well as post with concerns and questions as I feel I need something, Not to get bashed about trying to put on some lean mass, instead of looking like a 240lb freak.
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well, the thing is, you didn't start a thread in the weightlifting forums, you started one in the aas forums....so you 're looking to juice or why start a thread here? I'm not bashing you by any means...
 
gatemoney said:
Ecto's don't know how good they have it!
Damn i wish i was ectomorphic!
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Ha if you say so.

Day off today. Ready to get back in the gym and hit it hard tomorrow.
3850 cals, 225 protein, 390carbs, 180 fat. Busier day today, harder to get some of those extra cals in. About to drink a casein, peanut butter shake and hit the sack.
 
strentrainin said:
Will do. I snack on almonds pretty regularly and always add PB and olive oil to my shakes, etc. Going to add a few things here and there to my diet to get the Cals up a little more.

Radar, If I run the Mast at 300 a week, should I split that up as I do the Test and run it weeks 1-10 (same amount of time i run test)?

Will def. be ordering some Postcycle, Unleased and Forma for PCT.
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Masterdon is used once per week unless it's ace.

But By all means Learn to eat and make a routine out of it before going on anything, once you have that nailed down and able to make it a normal routine then you can think about adding compounds.
 
Ive.just ordered some anavar for.anavar only. never touched.the.stuff in my life im build like a shit brick house natuarlly so I want to test.the grounds. So a.newb as well my order was placed yesterday so I cant wait ever tried this stuff.

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Steeltrain said:
Ive.just ordered some anavar for.anavar only. never touched.the.stuff in my life im build like a shit brick house natuarlly so I want to test.the grounds. So a.newb as well my order was placed yesterday so I cant wait ever tried this stuff.

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at 5'10" 160 you're a beanpole learn to eat, gain at least another 15lbs naturally or expect to waste that cycle and loose it all!
 
RADAR said:
at 5'10" 160 you're a beanpole learn to eat, gain at least another 15lbs naturally or expect to waste that cycle and loose it all!
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That's some dude trying to hijack my thread..... I'm not running a cycle anytime soon. I'm on a mission to put on some mass and strength naturally. Don't know what that guy is talking about anavar this and that. Second round of 5x5 today.. I'm ready
 
Second day of 5x5 today. Went great except I couldn't squat because my legs are still so sore from Tuesday. Did Deads, Bench, and Overhead press.. added in some barbell rows... Weighed in at 164 up 3lbs since last time I stepped on scale. Feeling good.
 
Good job bro on taking Radars advice. I applaud your decision to train natty. Let's get this thread back on track and keep logging your workouts and diet.
 
Todays Workout:
Bench: 1x12 @ 135
1x5 @ 185
1x5 @ 195
2 x 5 @ 205
1x5 @ 210

Deadlift: 1x10 @ 135
2x 5 @ 225
2x 5 @ 275
1 x 5 @ 245

Barbell Overhead Press: 1x5 @ 95
2x5 @ 110
2x5 @ 115
1x5 @ 125

Bent over Barbell rows (Add in): 3x 135


Diet Today (so far): 3000 cals, 190g protein, 300 carbs, 130g fat. Fixing to eat dinner and have a protein shake. Luckily I have a huge appetite so I enjoy the eating part. Feeling pretty good.. strength is going up slowly but surely. might take measurements... so I can check progress on down the road...
 
Took the last 2 days off... 5x5 had me pretty sore. I did abs and stretched today. Tomorrow I'm back at 5x5.. probably squats, deads, rows, maybe db incline bench.

Cals are a little lower today. I've been really busy this weekend. Sleep schedule is spot on. I'm getting 8-10 hours of solid sleep a night.
 
Well today was day 4 of 5x5. Due to the crowd in the gym and my time crunch. I did Bench, BB rows, DB overhead press, and Decline Bench.
Looked like this: Bench: 1x12@ 135, 2x5@195, 2x5 @ 205, 1x5@ 215 DB ovhead press: 1x10 @ 45 (each hand), 2x5@ 50s, 2x5 @ 55, 1x5 60 BB rows: 1x8@ 135, 3x5 @ 185, 2x5 @ 190 Decline Bench: 3x5 @ 205, 1x5 @ 215, 1x5 @ 225.... Trying to eat more and more calories as I gain weight. Feeling good and sleeping good. Weekends are what I need to work on.
 
Another day banging out 5x5... Can tell my strength has gradually increased.
Squats: 1x10@135, 1x5 @ 185, 2x5 @ 205, 2x5 @ 225
Deads: 1x8@ 185, 2x5 @ 225, 2x5 @ 275
Overhead/Military Press: 1x8@ 95, 2x5 @ 120, 2x5 @ 125, 1x5 @ 135
accessory work was some walking lunges holding 45lbs

Still averaging about 4000 cals a day. I try to get more in most of the time but no matter how much I shove down it really doesn't get over about 4500. Might get some mass gainer powder and start drinking one in between meals. Weighed in at 165 on the nose today on a empty stomach so I might have picked up another pound. Hey, I'll take it.
 
strentrainin said:
Another day banging out 5x5... Can tell my strength has gradually increased.
Squats: 1x10@135, 1x5 @ 185, 2x5 @ 205, 2x5 @ 225
Deads: 1x8@ 185, 2x5 @ 225, 2x5 @ 275
Overhead/Military Press: 1x8@ 95, 2x5 @ 120, 2x5 @ 125, 1x5 @ 135
accessory work was some walking lunges holding 45lbs

Still averaging about 4000 cals a day. I try to get more in most of the time but no matter how much I shove down it really doesn't get over about 4500. Might get some mass gainer powder and start drinking one in between meals. Weighed in at 165 on the nose today on a empty stomach so I might have picked up another pound. Hey, I'll take it.
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Ok bro I gotta hand it to you, you took CEOs advice and a lot of the other mods too. Good for you man.
On that 5x5, stick to the workout man. Dont go changeing shit around. Just do the workout!
By all means get that mass gainer and use it with whole milk. At your size it wont hurt you a bit.
On the 5x5, you lift on Mon, Wed and Fri. From your log IDK if that was what you are doing or not. It would help us, your readers if your put the day and date at the top on your entries.
Ok now go Kill That Shit and GROW!!!:evil:
 
zedhed said:
Ok bro I gotta hand it to you, you took CEOs advice and a lot of the other mods too. Good for you man.
On that 5x5, stick to the workout man. Dont go changeing shit around. Just do the workout!
By all means get that mass gainer and use it with whole milk. At your size it wont hurt you a bit.
On the 5x5, you lift on Mon, Wed and Fri. From your log IDK if that was what you are doing or not. It would help us, your readers if your put the day and date at the top on your entries.
Ok now go Kill That Shit and GROW!!!:evil:
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I will do that. I typically stick to the routine set and only hit those 3 exercise with one warm-up set and the 5x5 going up in weight If I don't feel I'm under enough tension.

Yes, I am on a Monday Wednesday Friday schedule with a day or 2 of abs in between. I will post the date on all entries from now on.

I appreciate the input. I'm all ears for anyone that wants to give advice. Will keep you guys updated.
 
Last workout was Friday. Took Saturday off. So i'm gonna go 5x5 Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday this week.

Today:
Squat- 1x10@135, 2x5@205, 1x5@225, 2x5@275... Notice a lot more strength today
Close grip Bench- 1x12@135, 3x5 @185, 2x5@ 195, 1x5@ 165
Standing Military Press- 1x8@95, 2x5 125, 2x5@135, 1xFailure @140... Notice more strength here as well... even though I was whipped from squats and bench

Weighed in at 165 so I'm steady. Just got back from the grocery. So i'm looking forward to a dominate week in the gym and in the kitchen. Ready to hammer some food and weights.
 
Can anyone guide me, what cycle should i follow so as to gain muscles quickly? My weight is 55 only. Can anyone suggest any plan?
 
i have a great bulker in my signature bro. i put that together especially for guys like you. its not a bad thing that you have a fast metabolism. if you get your diet dialed in and as you get older and your metabolism slows down everything will come together beautifully for you.
 
Ok, Second workout for the week is Knocked out.. I'm loggin on here moreso as a log for myself, not just for people to read... even though i'm always wide open for suggestions and advice..

Squats: 1x10@135, 1x5@185, 2x5@225, 2x5@275.. 1x8@135
Bent over Barbell Rows: 1x8@135, 3x5@145, 2x5@155
Deads: 1x10@125, 2x5@225, 2x5@275, 1x5@285

165-166 on the scales... 4000-4400cals a day...averaging 250g protein, 325-400 carbs, 125-200g of fat.. rough estimate
 
Been a little while since I've posted.

Got sick this past weekend. Missed a couple days in the gym.
Back at hard Monday and Today. Felt good.

Hit some PR's on Squat Monday with 1x5@320.. Killed Chest, Shoulders, and did Deads today (5x5).. 4th week going at 5x5 and i've notice increases in Strength and size. Weight still hovering around 165. Going to eat, eat and eat some more. Might try out some N2bulk here soon.
 
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