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your very right needsize and we definetly got your back!
I dont post here too often so people might not take my opinion seriously. There is no right or wrong in this matter. Staying on test for the rest of your life is a serious decision that has many drawbacks. It is not going to be cheap. Legal ramifications. Availability of a quality product. You never know what may happen in your life that may force you to go completely off. What do you do then? You lose alot of muscle mass and go through the worst post cycle crash ever. There are so many people out there who do it the old fashioned way and cycle and keep very respectable gains. I suggest you think twice about doing something like this unless you have already seriously screwed your natural hormone levels already.
needsize said:
Thank God someone said it, if you suffer a total blow out when you come off then your where at a place you never should have been. There are so many fucking variables, and studies on this BLAH BLAH BLAH. my fucking head spins.
The fact is the jury is out but the research is getting more positive each year regarding supplemental test and keeping levels equal to normal levels of your youth. I am 14 to 15 years on for doing exactly what needsizes said and that was going way over my natual ability. like it sounds like ozz was saying, and then applying the "always on" logic to hold it in hopes that a sponsor would give me the nod. The problem to hold was to much and shut down my ability to produce within 2 to 3 years I could not make enough test to give a gnat a hard-on. But even if to hold is realtive to your natural output if you go "always on" you will one day shut down and forget how to make it, this much they know and it is a fact.
However, I must also mention that the jury is out on "always on" and how long at what level does it take for your body to stop. My doc says I could have avoided it even at at my worst levels of abuse if I would have stopped every now and agian to remind my body how to make it. But that is not a prefect science, in fact it is no way near.
As far as prostate cancer and everything else they throw at us, fuck them they just do not know. They are trying so fucking hard to prove it bad they cannot see through the shit to give proper advice that applies to each person based on his body and not a generaly excepted rule. How can there be such a rule when we are talking about making up for something we make ourselves. There are a thousands variables. I admit it is getting better but we are not their.
But one thing that I can promise you and this is the truth and I swear to God and life if you stay on, you will one day be forced to stay on forever. This much they do know, I am not even knocking it and in fact I am Ok with it and prefer it. But admit the truth, understand the risks and in the end you cannot complain. For those who believe there is not a price to pay later you are simply ignoring the truth.
I have done almost everything and I can promise you. What I have not done I have seen and I am still at it because I except the outcome and the positive outweights the negative for me. But the decision needs to be made with logic not ignorance.
Had research been better 20 plus years ago I would have done it different but I would still have done it. No regrets here and 20 or so years from now you want to be able to say the same.
Do you realize there is some truth to almost every post on this thread. Yet no one is completely right and the reason is simply like I said before, they just do not know so everyone forms there own opinion. Check me every ten years and I will give you an up-date. Sorry for the late post but I never admit this, I reallhad to chew on it for awhile.
Here I go again, I need to shut the fuck up! Any questions send a message.
Sweet dreams all, and may God be with you
c gheller said:
You are right somewhat but you woud have to taper off. I would not want to go from the levels of someone in there 20's to 70 in 14 days. Man to wake up and feel old almost overnight. If I intended to stop, I would taper off throughout my whole life and stop as I would have naturally by average standard, but no way, that is where the part about I do not mind comes in. I for sure have the option to stop when I would have naturally or for that matter to taper off and decline as I would.
However, there is no need as I said the evidence gets better each year to the true medical benifits to maintaining healthy levels until the big man upstairs call your number. The key according to my Doc is to stay within the norm of your youth. He is a very big supporter of test replacment therapy no matter what the reason. So you have to remember if I was totally norm today, and this is my doctor, I would be on it for life anyway just to make up for the natural decline by aging.
I have noted in posts before that my wonderful and beautiful wife is 20 years younger, what I have never mentioned because it never came up is that I can rise to the occasion and hold my own just as I did when I was 18 to 20 or so. LOL now that is not justification but it is a added perk from the plan.
In 2001 I was in a bad automobile accident almost killed, and the conventional doc's at the hospital would not support me. So they let me go down. I swear I aged 10 fucking years in a years. even my hair even grayed, now I color it. My face everything, geneticaly men in my family do not age well. My dad also a doc is 73 and he looks 80 or so and he is frail. He was just like me when I was young, very athletic etc. But as Needsize mentioned genetics are real. I swear I am not sure in the long run what did me worse the accident or allowing my test levels to drop.
But again to answer your question, yes I could but no I will never. 2 pops per week and it is a wild, wild world. Never grow old and never say die.
God I slept great last night
needsize said:
That is the trick come off wait 10 to 14 days get tested and see. Supplements sould have run there course. Now in 14 days again test again and see if your body picked up and are carrying your own.
My doctor claims first if I had not overloaded like I did and you are not, and if I would have after a cycle backed off to a safe bridge until the next cycle and I would have run the test above 2 times a year I would be OK. Maybe, but there is a big maybe for me because of genetics.
The answer lies in your blood it will not lie, get it check always if you give a shit, if not just except you may be stuck the rest of you life. What is the difference between test replacement, vitamin replacement, insulin replacement like my mom, people make up for what nature has left off all the time.
But ohhhh someone says TESTOSTERONE and mother cover the eyes of there child, old look away as in shame on you, the minister yells repent.
I say fuck you, take a good look and wish you had the guts.
No regrets that is where the answer lies, so understand the consequences.
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