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THIS WAS APPROVED BY BIG RICK ROCK BTW and Im lazy and just copied and pasted from original thread.

Ordered some Supra long rHGH about 3 months ago and I still have no product. Initially said Supra was backed up 2 weeks. And this backed up bullshit has just continued. Now all emails are getting kicked back as his box is full. No, I didnt clear this with anyone. Ive been around long enough to know a scammer. And I dont want to hear bullshit excuses for him. Its been 3 fucking months and nothing. Not to mention he took order when he didnt have product. That alone is bullshit. Again, this has gone on for 3 months with the same excuses. "It ll be soon" " Hes finishing up his run" Either way this guy sucks ass! Okay , Im done...............galaxy

From what Ive learned this may be his name:Sanchez Juan Alfonso

This is where I sent donation.
J.S.
PO Box 3355
Albuquerque,
NM 87190-3355
USA

Ive gotten a few pms from some other bros he scammed and they got the same story I did. I even asked what he did have in stock and when I finally gave in and said just send me what you can that is when emails started getting kicked back.

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I did approve for Galaxy to warn guys about Sammy being a scammer, I never approved for a thread to be made telling people that Sammy = Fonz. At this point there isn't enough SOLID proof to justify that accusation.


-Big Rick Rock



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galaxy said:
From what Ive learned this may be his name:Sanchez Juan Alfonso

This is where I sent donation.
J.S.
PO Box 3355
Albuquerque,
NM 87190-3355
USA
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This is old news.......where have you been?

DIV

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no shit shirlock, thats why the thread got closed. now its official to post the thread w/out worries of getting it locked. besides its a heads up...why do you care? are you working with fonz?
 
georgie24 said:
no shit shirlock, thats why the thread got closed. now its official to post the thread w/out worries of getting it locked. besides its a heads up...why do you care? are you working with fonz?
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That's "Sherlock".......you hyper lil' fuckface...

I could care less.......my supplier is international.......and No, I'm not a player in the game.

DIV

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i bet you are.. i wouldnt put it passed you..you seem to know excatly what to say in defense of fonz and his situation....
 
georgie24 said:
i bet you are.. i wouldnt put it passed you..you seem to know excatly what to say in defense of fonz and his situation....
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I don't know Fonz, never ordered from him either......It's buyer beware these days.....even you should understand that.

Word of mouth is the only way to be sure you are in good....

DIV

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Fonz?
the guy from Spain???
 
maccer said:
Division who did you used to be you

remind me of the BIGFED/Warbird
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I haven't been here under any other name, ask EFANTON, he's the admin and he can give you the 411.

DIV

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DIVISION..

i like you bro.
but i suggest toning it down a bit.
this may be old news.. and you're fortunate to be updated.
but there are many who arent updated and are at risk of gettin scammed.

so please lets show some sensitivity and maturness and stay out of threads that dont concern you.

thanks.
 
satchboogie said:
DIVISION..

i like you bro.
but i suggest toning it down a bit.
this may be old news.. and you're fortunate to be updated.
but there are many who arent updated and are at risk of gettin scammed.

so please lets show some sensitivity and maturness and stay out of threads that dont concern you.

thanks.
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Alright......will do.

DIV
 
satchboogie said:
DIVISION..

i like you bro.
but i suggest toning it down a bit.
this may be old news.. and you're fortunate to be updated.
but there are many who arent updated and are at risk of gettin scammed.

so please lets show some sensitivity and maturness and stay out of threads that dont concern you.

thanks.
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i agree
 
satchboogie said:
DIVISION..

i like you bro.
but i suggest toning it down a bit.
this may be old news.. and you're fortunate to be updated.
but there are many who arent updated and are at risk of gettin scammed.

so please lets show some sensitivity and maturness and stay out of threads that dont concern you.

thanks.
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well put satch very diplomatic..who cares if its old it needs to be out there so no one else gets ripped..there are a lot more shitty threads on here how about criticizing those instead of useful ones!!
 
satchboogie said:
DIVISION..

i like you bro.
but i suggest toning it down a bit.
this may be old news.. and you're fortunate to be updated.
but there are many who arent updated and are at risk of gettin scammed.

so please lets show some sensitivity and maturness and stay out of threads that dont concern you.

thanks.
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Hey Satch, very well said. I didn't read the other thread and this is all news to me. I am a little taken back the FONZ ended up being a scammer though.
 
Hey, Hey , Hey!


Wait one fucking minute!


I approved for Galaxy to make a thread warning people about "Sammy" being a scammer...


I never approved any thread saying that Fonz = Sammy...

In my mind there isn't enough solid proof to say that they are the same people...

Galaxy please make that correction...



aww fuck it, I'll edit your post myself.
 
division, every post of yours that I have read today was a complete waste of board space, doing nothing but criticizing other members and generally starting shit. Do you have anything worthwhile to add to this board?
 
needsize said:
division, every post of yours that I have read today was a complete waste of board space, doing nothing but criticizing other members and generally starting shit. Do you have anything worthwhile to add to this board?
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I've made alot of posts trying to help people......

Evidently you didn't read those.

DIV
 
i am not sure i understand the connection between fonz and sammy being a scammer either. are we not allowed to ask this???? this is a pretty big thing. fonz is such a notorious (and unlikeable) poster.
 
DIVISION said:
I've made alot of posts trying to help people......

Evidently you didn't read those.

DIV
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I have seen post of yours in the past that werent inflammaory, but obviously today you have been concentrating on other things, like on the QFS thread, if you have issues with people, take it to pms and keep the adolescent shit off this forum
 
Galaxy usually if you call a post office and request ownership info of one of their boxes they will release it to you. They usually give their real addy to the post office off of their ID. You already have his real name so it should be a simple call for ya to get his resident addy.

Fonz is a digrace, sorry for your loss Galaxy Bro.
 
Sh4dowF4lcon said:
Galaxy usually if you call a post office and request ownership info of one of their boxes they will release it to you. They usually give their real addy to the post office off of their ID.
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wow no shit?
po boxes are a lot less safe than i thought..
i always figured there'd have to be a supeona (sp?) to get that info

on topic:
im sure "sammy" is vacationing on a beach with a notebook thinking up excuses for this one. it'll be interesting to see if he's got the sack to pop up again
 
i dont know..but i read the first thread a few weeks ago..and fonz was on a day or so after..so if it is him hes got some sac....
 
speaking of fonz...he posts like a hundred times a day..and where is he now defending himself.. anywhere you go ther's internet access so dont go with the vacation bit...
 
needsize said:
division, every post of yours that I have read today was a complete waste of board space, doing nothing but criticizing other members and generally starting shit. Do you have anything worthwhile to add to this board?
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Thank you. K to you.
 
Sh4dowF4lcon said:
Galaxy usually if you call a post office and request ownership info of one of their boxes they will release it to you. They usually give their real addy to the post office off of their ID. You already have his real name so it should be a simple call for ya to get his resident addy.

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only for businesses.
 
AAP said:
Perhaps someone can email Fonz and get his version.
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Dont you think he had enough time to give his version? I do. Look at the addy Galaxy sent money to Rick. That is Fonz most of us know that. We know what his name is and the address where he sent the money. I know it is Fonz because I sent him money for some testing I chipped in on, several months ago. I can't believe there are people who still defend Fonz here.

Mods & Vets around here who know who Sammy is. I am surprised anyone can deny this. The addy Galaxy sent to is for Fonzerelli, for sure.

"J.S. Axxxxxx" is sammy the scammer. I think he had plenty of time to post up and make good with Galaxy and others. To not allow Galaxy to report the facts is proposterous. IMHO, Fonz has made a mockery of this place with his antics.

Karma is a motherfokker, he'll get his :evil:



macrophage69alpha said:
only for businesses.
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Thanks, after calling the local PO that is correct, only for business.
 
Big Rick Rock said:
Hey, Hey , Hey!


Wait one fucking minute!


I approved for Galaxy to make a thread warning people about "Sammy" being a scammer...


I never approved any thread saying that Fonz = Sammy...

In my mind there isn't enough solid proof to say that they are the same people...

Galaxy please make that correction...



aww fuck it, I'll edit your post myself.
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BRR, please check your PM's.
 
he posted on 7/31/04 that he was gone for 3 weeks, so something should happen soon. Where do you go after being exposed on EF? His writing style will quickly be exposed as an alter.
 
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Sh4dowF4lcon said:
Galaxy usually if you call a post office and request ownership info of one of their boxes they will release it to you. They usually give their real addy to the post office off of their ID. You already have his real name so it should be a simple call for ya to get his resident addy.

Fonz is a digrace, sorry for your loss Galaxy Bro.
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Galaxy, if you can find out where he lives, and if you dont live too far away, I suggest you pay him a visit and chopp off his legs.
 
yomama said:
Galaxy, if you can find out where he lives, and if you dont live too far away, I suggest you pay him a visit and chopp off his legs.
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you dont even need to knw where he lives...someones gotta go the post office to collect the checks they steal...just wait and blanket party his ass
 
Is this the same Fonz who , along with Juice Authority, ran off Nelson Montana?
 
ArrogantFungus said:
Is this the same Fonz who , along with Juice Authority, ran off Nelson Montana?
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Nah, Nelson threw a tantrum, took his Ebook and went off to sulk. I really wish he'd come back at some point though. Everything needs a balance...
 
glennds said:
nuclear physicist AND scammer.
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world class athlete, fitness model, nutrition guru.
 
ArrogantFungus said:
Is this the same Fonz who , along with Juice Authority, ran off Nelson Montana?
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I didn't run Nelson off you fucking jackass. Nelson ran himself off with his tirades. He also ran himself off Steroid-ology as well after being confonted by a number of people about his lack of credentials that he boasts about. I suppose that's my fault too?? Before you answer that bear in mind that I was banned from Steroid-ology over a year ago and haven't posted there since.

Bottom line: Nelson is an unqualified, arrogant, conceited piece of shit that thinks he's God greatest gift to the supplement industry. Fuck him, if he wants run away with his tail between his legs blaming it on me then so be it. He's a moron.

As for Sammy being Fonz. I have no comment on that. I have ordered stuff through Fonz who apparently got it through Sammy who was supposedly a Supra remailer. I always got my stuff but now that I deal directly with the main man behind Supra I was able to confirm that Sammy was never a remailer for Supra. They didn't even have a record of this Sammy character as a customer. I never made an issue of it since I always got what I ordered from Fonz albeit at a surcharge but that's life when you deal through "middlemen".
 
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Where the hell is Fonz? Has he been banned already? It seems that there is a discrepency as to wheater or not FONZ actually = sammy. Has anyone gotten Fonz's side of the story?
 
georgie24 said:
he should be close to a pc, and defend himself if he wasnt a scammer
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good points

whatever the case is if he is, it would really bake my noodle on a personal level

Phuck the money, its about principle
 
It's almost midnight and I see that. well I have no clue if FOnz was behind that or not. I had info from vets and it seems they could be right. Now my question to you guys who ordered from him (if this is true):

Would you buy from someone who tells everyone in the county about his Gulf war talls, MBA, 3 centerfold GF, his trip on the moon with Neil Amrstrong and how he won the World Cup with Brasil in 1994 ?

Be honest and answer the damn question...
 
manny78 said:
It's almost midnight and I see that. well I have no clue if FOnz was behind that or not. I had info from vets and it seems they could be right. Now my question to you guys who ordered from him (if this is true):

Would you buy from someone who tells everyone in the county about his Gulf war talls, MBA, 3 centerfold GF, his trip on the moon with Neil Amrstrong and how he won the World Cup with Brasil in 1994 ?

Be honest and answer the damn question...
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I wouldn't have ordered a magazine subscription from the guy.
 
maybe now the fonz supporters will collectively pull their heads out of their asses

this guy should have been vanquished years ago ... what a disgrace
 
now that i post here for hours on end i finally realized the deal with fonz, before i would sneak in posts here and there because of work school ect...
 
georgie24 said:
now that i post here for hours on end i finally realized the deal with fonz, before i would sneak in posts here and there because of work school ect...
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what are you trying to say??? You are known as Fonz's #1 fan.
 
why dont you choke on micheal jacksons dick. maybe he will pay for a var cycle for you if you let him pee in your mouth or something, or maybe he can dangle you skinny ass off the brooklyn bridge, oohhh wait blanket wouldnt like that and will prolly kick you in your nuts
 
georgie24 said:
why dont you choke on micheal jacksons dick. maybe he will pay for a var cycle for you if you let him pee in your mouth or something, or maybe he can dangle you skinny ass off the brooklyn bridge, oohhh wait blanket wouldnt like that and will prolly kick you in your nuts
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it looks like georgie is in his manic state tonight!!!
 
ill run through you day or night buddy. just let me know when you want me to flex on ya...i can do it all night if you wish...
 
Ain't this a FUCKIN BITCH! One thing I can definetly say about the matter is that Galaxy and SF are 100% correct about the PO addy. I sent some Var to this same addy to be tested. This addy was given to me by fonz!!!!!!!!!! To me that is proof positive, and I DON"T NEED ANY MORE FUGGIN PROOF!
 
I have a list of Juan Sanchez phone numbers and addresses. 1 of them are in Alberquerqie (sp) anyone want it? There are 15 listings in surrounding areas including maps.
 
BigGuns29 said:
I have a list of Juan Sanchez phone numbers and addresses. 1 of them are in Alberquerqie (sp) anyone want it? There are 15 listings in surrounding areas including maps.
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Post the info......

DIV

:chomp:
 
Has it occured to any of you asking why Fonz hasn't been on here to defend himself that he has ALREADY BEEN BANNED????
 
Well guess what? You are gonna catch hell for it!



You have no right posting that info.........
RADAR
 
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Posting someone's personal info like that could put EF in jeopardy.
 
Its free info on the internet. Anyone could have found it if they looked for a while. No harm to them if they arent fonz. just trying to help out with resources. its not really personalinfo, it was public and is in any public phonebook. ef shouldnt be in any danger. just throwin some numbers around...lol... :)


Well guess again.
RADAR
 
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I work in telecommunications. That's public information there's no problem with that. And they are all mexicans so they will never notice anything. After this so long thread the "guilty" still don't come here to defend himself??...come on gimme a break!. One fact, he's guilty. Two options, he will never write back or he's thinking and creating a big lie to write here.
 
FONZ is a fuckin bitch. He was exposed as a fraud long ago, and I don't know how the fuck he pulled off as much as he did around here. He is nothing but a little gash
 
georgie24 said:
he's prolly at a soccer match?
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nonono, fonzy is definately at the nuclear weapons research facility studying the effects of radiation on steroid induced rats.
 
lmao! like i said i never caught on to him because my time at work was actually spent working and i couldnt "live" on the boards as i do now.....since i started 3rd shift i see everyones true colors.....the eye opener was when you handed fonz his ass to him on a platinum platter and shut him the fuck down
 
OH no! Sammy is FOnZ. And I have some interesting things to say also about another scammer I think is fonz. Well Possibly 2 fucking scammers. Admin can check my pm's to back my shit up. I also have emails I am still putting together.
 
yes def email mods on this so no more bro's can be taken for their hard earned coin!!! i was refered to sammy by fonz on more than one occasion....also sammy's price list was sky high...like triple of supras prices
 
That's the same problem I had! I never really liked him anyway so i have no idea what i was doing listening to him in the first place. He was a good scamming. Hell is prolly is still scamming.
 
KA-BAR said:
OH no! Sammy is FOnZ. And I have some interesting things to say also about another scammer I think is fonz. Well Possibly 2 fucking scammers. Admin can check my pm's to back my shit up. I also have emails I am still putting together.
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Care to share?

Wrongun!
 
All I can say is: I said he coudn't be trusted. Yet some of the vets here kept bashing me and defending the guy. He lied (mostly) about everything. The funniest part was his supposed science degrees. All he could do was copy paste incoherent, seemingly complicated sentences together to make it look scientific to a person with no background in science.
 
GoodDoer756 said:
All I can say is: I said he coudn't be trusted. Yet some of the vets here kept bashing me and defending the guy. He lied (mostly) about everything. The funniest part was his supposed science degrees. All he could do was copy paste incoherent, seemingly complicated sentences together to make it look scientific to a person with no background in science.
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"go back to trashology you troll" :P

if only people opened their eyes they woulda saw how lame fonz was a long time ago.
 
afer all the proof about his lies was exposed on and here, lots of people still backed him and said he was such an asset to this forum. it took someone gettting ripped off to see what hes all about? this is sad! he was proven a liar countless times. so it's no surprise to me that he scammed. i thought fonz was a little childish dipshit from the start, yet i almost got banned when i got into a war with him, and when i called him out on a bunch of his lies, he threatened me by saying he;ll expose another member here. he couldnt even defend himself, just threaten me. that, my friends, is a little bitch!
 
eviction said:
if only people opened their eyes they woulda saw how lame fonz was a long time ago.
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werd. The problem is people want to give him the benefit of the doubt. He has contributed alot here and did have some good info. It really is too bad this is all true. There is nothing left to defend.

The PO BOX Galaxy listed is the same mailing info Fonz gave me and Gold Prospector months ago for testing some paper. He probably never even tested it, who knows? he was an Elite Mod here at the time. That was February so then Galaxy sent "Sammy" cash to the same address for SupraHgh. It is certainly him, we all know it. Who is in doubt? The sad thing is we had to wait weeks to openly discuss because no one wanted to believe it could be true. Hopefully no ne got taken in the mean time. :(

Fonz: good rittens you filthy minion and Karma will find you :evil:
 
I sent my donation to sammy at
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EDIT:

do not post source info

(the address was different and in a different state)
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I don't know if this helps, but I always recieved my stuff.
 
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Its possible he had partners on EF that could be exposed? Obviosly he and his pard, JA ran off Nelson Montana for some benefit...like he questioned their info.. Funny thing was Fonz and JA always questioned Montana's credentials...LOL


edit -- What part of we paid Nelson royalties on his ebooks; Nelson never paid us -- George Spellwin do you have trouble understanding?

digger
 
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what is that website that you can go to and see the scammers names and see if somebody will pay you to fuck them up?
 
alltraps said:
afer all the proof about his lies was exposed on and here, lots of people still backed him and said he was such an asset to this forum. it took someone gettting ripped off to see what hes all about? this is sad! he was proven a liar countless times. so it's no surprise to me that he scammed. i thought fonz was a little childish dipshit from the start, yet i almost got banned when i got into a war with him, and when i called him out on a bunch of his lies, he threatened me by saying he;ll expose another member here. he couldnt even defend himself, just threaten me. that, my friends, is a little bitch!
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needsize would probably be a mod if not for the shit fonz put him thru on EF. Funny how that worked, isn't it? Also notice that needsize hasn't taken the opportunity to gloat over this like I damn sure would have.
 
wgarrett said:
I sent my donation to sammy at
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do not post source info

(the address was different and in a different state)
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I don't know if this helps, but I always recieved my stuff.
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What makes you think that is Sammy?
 
I've never been one to gloat, but I did almost get banned more than once over my issues with him
 
How many times now has everyone been against Fonz for lying. Same thing happens every time: Fonz comes back and "explains" his inconsistencies and amazingly, most believe him again. My prediction is that Fonz will "explain" things again and most will believe him yet again. Doesn't say much for the intellect level of Elite. ;)


GoodDoer756 said:
All I can say is: I said he coudn't be trusted. Yet some of the vets here kept bashing me and defending the guy. He lied (mostly) about everything. The funniest part was his supposed science degrees. All he could do was copy paste incoherent, seemingly complicated sentences together to make it look scientific to a person with no background in science.
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Juice Authority said:
I didn't run Nelson off you fucking jackass. Nelson ran himself off with his tirades. He also ran himself off Steroid-ology as well after being confonted by a number of people about his lack of credentials that he boasts about. I suppose that's my fault too?? Before you answer that bear in mind that I was banned from Steroid-ology over a year ago and haven't posted there since.

Bottom line: Nelson is an unqualified, arrogant, conceited piece of shit that thinks he's God greatest gift to the supplement industry. Fuck him, if he wants run away with his tail between his legs blaming it on me then so be it. He's a moron.
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I'm not clear...do you like nelson or not? :)
 
It looks like my post has been passed over so I'll say it again.
If anyone needs help with this let me know. I'm pretty sure I can get this resolved.
I have the answers to most the questions on this thread but I have no intention of posting it here.
I will say this. Fonz is on the internet and was in Spain a couple days ago, for whatever that's worth.
 
AAP said:
What makes you think that is Sammy?
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I was checking through the e-mails from sammy and fonz and that was where I was told to send my donation to. I am sorry if this was a source post, I thought it was just an address. I have a hard time understanding how nobody on here knows fonz on a personal level and can get to the bottom of this. Again sorry I did not see the correlation between and address and a source post.
 
It remains unclear to me why admin allowed Fonz to harass Nelson Montana, even on his own forum , without sanctioning him but sanctioned Montana for doing anything remotely similar, i.e., using another nic. Montana actually brought business to the board and sponsored(paid) for his own forum. Someone else must have benefitted on this board from allowing Fonz to operate here by receiving kickbacks of products or money.
 
ulter said:
It looks like my post has been passed over so I'll say it again.
If anyone needs help with this let me know. I'm pretty sure I can get this resolved.
I have the answers to most the questions on this thread but I have no intention of posting it here.
I will say this. Fonz is on the internet and was in Spain a couple days ago, for whatever that's worth.
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Yeah I noticed that, you gave a really quiet offer and I have no doubt you would be helpful. I guess it got lost in the vitriol.
 
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