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Big Rick Rock

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Hey guys,



That dude Ross wants to come back on to EF. . .


What do you guys think about that?
 
The only memories I have were not favorable. Even after he got banned I remember him sending me spam pm's from an alter account.
 
8and20 said:
The only memories I have were not favorable. Even after he got banned I remember him sending me spam pm's from an alter account.
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Yes... So do many others.
 
I find his supplements highly dubious and have heard reports of a number of unpleasant sides from them.

I have also seen him post on another board that he is 'in this game' to make a lot of money fast, basically get in and get out.

I probably could find evidence of this, it would take me a fair amount of searching though.

I am not sure who writes the text to go with them, but it is defo not him, it is that 'baffle them with science' thing IMHO.

I guess you can tell what my vote is.
 
if this is the guy i think it is .. he posted on various sites and was giving out harmful advise all over the net.. dont see what positive he could bring to this site? unless, perhaps u feel he has turned over a new leaf rick lol
 
I think its funny how people beg to be rightfully allowed back on a website. If they really wanted to be here and do good and maybe change from their own ways they would sign up and alter and do good under it not be a fag like this guy.
 
b_light said:
I think its funny how people beg to be rightfully allowed back on a website. If they really wanted to be here and do good and maybe change from their own ways they would sign up and alter and do good under it not be a fag like this guy.
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He is not really begging as much as just wanting to put the past behind, and coming here with a new and refreshed attitude.
 
He wants to flog 'androgenerator' or diarhorrea generator as I have heard reports.

The one site that I know had all of the controversy about these sides has gone down (one of the busts), so the posts may not be retrievable.
 
Big Rick Rock said:
He is not really begging as much as just wanting to put the past behind, and coming here with a new and refreshed attitude.
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I guess everyone deserves a second chance.... however, if you do grant a second chance, just monitor his posts a little closer to make sure no one gets hurt...
 
Still as my other comments said. If his intentions were genuine he would have made up an alter and have been helping us by now. He's been nothing but problems on others boards as well.
 
Tatyana said:
He wants to flog 'androgenerator' or diarhorrea generator as I have heard reports.

The one site that I know had all of the controversy about these sides has gone down (one of the busts), so the posts may not be retrievable.
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I'll tell you what Tatyana.... If his products have any bad sides or just don';t work... He won't be here long since our member will tear him apart in days... Nothing dangerous or bunk could ever survive the scrutiny of this forum for long. Very discerning customers on this board.
 
Big Rick Rock said:
I'll tell you what Tatyana.... If his products have any bad sides or just don';t work... He won't be here long since our member will tear him apart in days... Nothing dangerous or bunk could ever survive the scrutiny of this forum for long. Very discerning customers on this board.
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Just looking out for the lads cause I love my joosers :)
 
youngbuck22 said:
When i first joined EF, lets just say he was active on every thread. .lol, why was he banned again?
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At the time, he could not help himself and just went and started trying to market his products without approval. So he was deactivated for Spamming...

The guys sounds like a changed man now.
 
Was he trying to reinvent the pct wheel with his pre pct .

His best quot was "EVERY BOARD NEEDS A ROSS"

And thats the way i'd like to remember him .


Brad.
 
I think ross can bring some excitement to aas. He is fun to watch in action. He has some great ideas as far as aas use and pct. He gets people thinking and talking all the time.


We all work together here on the aas board. We have a great system going. Any one that don't fit in that system never last long. So I think its safe to say We can handle ross coming back.

If he wants to be any thing on this board its going to take a lot of time. It will take a lot of him doing whats right for the members and for the board. He will have to prove his worth to us in every way. Both to the members and to the mods,admen and other sponsors.

Speaking from the stand point of a member who has a less then perfect passed her on ef. I have to side with always giving some one the chance to turn things around.
Some of the members that have been here a long long time. Know I worked my ass of to turn things around. It took a long time but I put in the time. I wanted to give back to this board and I wanted to change my old ways after I quit drinking.

If ross has that same drive and can take the same steps. I say lets give him a shot.
Am I going to rush to his side to support him and ride his nuts. Hell no. I will give him a chance to make me want to support him though. I will give him a chance to invest his time and money into helping this site. If he works out great. If not then he will find the door just as fast as he did the last time!!!!!!!

So bring on the ross lmao
 
needtogetaas said:
Am I going to rush to his side to support him and ride his nuts.
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In all honesty, after some of the shite I saw him post on other boards when he was a sponser/COTB, if he comes back, I will 'ride his nuts' but in a different way.

After seeing him flog some crappy anti-inflammatory when the lads could take aspirin and paracetamol/tylenol for the same effect and about 1/20th of the cost, and his claims that his 'tribulus' is effective, sorry.

I couldn't stand by and watch that snake oil salesman pull the same thing here.
 
i don't know the guy, but i always believe in second chances--condition it on limited privileges to edit/delete posts for a while. . if he screws-up and hurts the board or people on the board, we put a recipe in needto's :Chef: book on how to cook-em over an open flame
 
Tatyana said:
In all honesty, after some of the shite I saw him post on other boards when he was a sponser/COTB, if he comes back, I will 'ride his nuts' but in a different way.

After seeing him flog some crappy anti-inflammatory when the lads could take aspirin and paracetamol/tylenol for the same effect and about 1/20th of the cost, and his claims that his 'tribulus' is effective, sorry.

I couldn't stand by and watch that snake oil salesman pull the same thing here.
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So we can trust that you will be watching over his shoulder :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:
 
eddymerckx said:
i don't know the guy, but i always believe in second chances--condition it on limited privileges to edit/delete posts for a while. . if he screws-up and hurts the board or people on the board, we put a recipe in needto's :Chef: book on how to cook-em over an open flame
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I agree about the limited privilege on deletes .


PS; has needto got a cook book . :Chef:
Brad.
 
needtogetaas said:
So we can trust that you will be watching over his shoulder :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:
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We have a history so yes.

I get on with most people. I like most people. I can almost always find redeeming qualities in people.

He was tough to do any of that with.
 
ross was promoting a product that supposed blocked all prolactin claiming
that if you blocked all prolactin your would never stop growing like a freak with a tumor on his pititary gland.

total bullshit the tumors do not block prolactin they simply put the gland into hyper drive the low prolactin is only a side effect of having a tumor on your pitutary gland not the cuase for it to go hyper. The tumor itself is why it goes hyper.

he sites me a study that used a hamster and a rat with one testical as his selling point

Guy is a total nutcase.


I'll leave if he comes back .
I did it when ulter was here he claimed that AIFM would cure gynecomastia and tumors
total bullshit.
HE kept editing my post so i left .
I came back to elite once he left any mod can check my posting and see a big gap.
If ross starts his shit ill just leave again.
Not that it matters to alot of people
 
chazk said:
ross was promoting a product that supposed blocked all prolactin claiming
that if you blocked all prolactin your would never stop growing like a freak with a tumor on his pititary gland.

total bullshit the tumors do not block prolactin they simply put the gland into hyper drive the low prolactin is only a side effect of having a tumor on your pitutary gland not the cuase for it to go hyper. The tumor itself is why it goes hyper.

he sites me a study that used a hamster and a rat with one testical as his selling point

Guy is a total nutcase.


I'll leave if he comes back .
I did it when ulter was here he claimed that AIFM would cure gynecomastia and tumors
total bullshit.
HE kept editing my post so i left .
I came back to elite once he left any mod can check my posting and see a big gap.
If ross starts his shit ill just leave again.
Not that it matters to alot of people
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It maters to me bro. Our members all matter.
 
will if this guy is allowed back .. so should holy ghost .. ross was far more harmful then ghost ever was ..board seemed more fun when ghost was around and he posted a shyt load of helpful articles on diet and gear
 
hurricane187 said:
will if this guy is allowed back .. so should holy ghost .. ross was far more harmful then ghost ever was ..board seemed more fun when ghost was around and he posted a shyt load of helpful articles on diet and gear
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Ghost is never coming back.
 
i think holy ghost should come back i miss that dude he was a dude with attitude and made good post and helped many peeps here

peace
 
he was openly sourcing, was he not? I'd let him back, if he'll pay the site to be to be a sponsor of his products/advice!
 
DBBT said:
he was openly sourcing, was he not? I'd let him back, if he'll pay the site to be to be a sponsor of his products/advice!
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I am note sure but I think there was way more to the story. The person that banned him might have had other motives :)
 
ya know--i have to give props to brr and ef---how many businesses/admins would bother to ask the question if there was a chance to make a buck--he could have just set him up with an alter and that's that--

if i had a hat, i would take it off to brr and ef for doing the right thing and showing respect to the members
 
HE is a TOOL

He has been banned everywhere. why waste your time. his theories are nonsense at best anyway. outrageous claims with skewed lab studies.
 
rdel85 said:
HE is a TOOL

He has been banned everywhere. why waste your time. his theories are nonsense at best anyway. outrageous claims with skewed lab studies.
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agreed

ghost was/maybe still is ross bitch by the way
 
i never had a problem per se with him posting information. though one time i asked him for the source and it took two pages of replies to get it to me.....lol. all i wanted to do was read the sources that were cited.

what i was getting at was all u guys that relied on or really enjoyed the info he posted can do a search for it and find it all for yourself and not have to rely on someone.
 
I actually enjoyed his posts. But, if he comes back, make him pay as ALL sponsors must... Make sure he leaves his boy Holy ghost at home!
 
Wrongun said:
why not just do a poll for 24 hours and then decide on the result?

Wrongun!
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it may make it easier than to read all these posts

yes - bring him back
no - dont bring him back
conditional - bring him back with severe restrictions (like no COTB even if a sponsor)
 
Holy = hell no. he provided harmful advice concerning AAS in almost every post he has ever made.

ross = never knew him, never tried his products, never seen his advice. so without knowing the facts, i'm gonna have to take a neutral side and not cast a vote.

~Alc
 
Tatyana said:
He wants to flog 'androgenerator' or diarhorrea generator as I have heard reports.

The one site that I know had all of the controversy about these sides has gone down (one of the busts), so the posts may not be retrievable.
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haha, i love it. He hasnt changed his ways either. he is over at outlaw doing the same ole shit. Tat is right, Andro G is only good for the shits and he is a real pain in the ass. i vote no! i cant stand him :)
 
needtogetaas said:
I think ross can bring some excitement to anabolic androgenic steroids. He is fun to watch in action. He has some great ideas as far as anabolic androgenic steroids use and PCT - post cycle therapy - . He gets people thinking and talking all the time.


We all work together here on the anabolic androgenic steroids board. We have a great system going. Any one that don't fit in that system never last long. So I think its safe to say We can handle ross coming back.

If he wants to be any thing on this board its going to take a lot of time. It will take a lot of him doing whats right for the members and for the board. He will have to prove his worth to us in every way. Both to the members and to the mods,admen and other sponsors.

Speaking from the stand point of a member who has a less then perfect passed her on ef. I have to side with always giving some one the chance to turn things around.
Some of the members that have been here a long long time. Know I worked my ass of to turn things around. It took a long time but I put in the time. I wanted to give back to this board and I wanted to change my old ways after I quit drinking.

If ross has that same drive and can take the same steps. I say lets give him a shot.
Am I going to rush to his side to support him and ride his nuts. Hell no. I will give him a chance to make me want to support him though. I will give him a chance to invest his time and money into helping this site. If he works out great. If not then he will find the door just as fast as he did the last time!!!!!!!

So bring on the ross lmao
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And this is why ur the shit, i really don't need to read on., long as i know the mods are on top of it.
 
get456 said:
A LOT of cut and pasting goes on around here without citing sources....
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cut-n-paste is a quick way to answer a question without spending an hour writing--let's face it, there are few new questions....but the source should be cited to one can judge the usefulness of the post---
 
ross is full of it....if you go to another board, you will see that the holy ghost is one of the few guys that bumps his threads....you can even use the code "ghost" to get a discount on his products.
 
yeh you pretty much punished him, haha. have i mentioned that i hate that motherfucker. :)
 
Big Rick Rock said:
Hey guys,



That dude Ross wants to come back on to EF. . .


What do you guys think about that?
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I vote NO!
He bought his way back in at Outlaw Muscle. I have no intrest in seeing his propaganda here.
 
him and youngguns were the only two members on this board that i have had it out with. ross is an asshole, plain and simple. i believe everyone deserves a socond chance, but let the members decide.. tally up the yes's and no's from this thread and see where he stands
 
needtogetaas said:
Good idea. What say you big rick rock. :)
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I have them now and again but far and few between LOL

Think a poll open for a set time would decide yes or no.

Wrongun!
 
what ever you decide is fine with me, i dont post that much and im sure the mods will take care of his bullshit should it rear its ugly head. the only thing id be dead against is giving him authority to edit and delete posts. id think youd want to see him in action for 3-6 months befor you give him that kind of power here. like i said its you and who ever elses call eventually so have at it...... thanks for asking !
 
I think he deserves a second chance. He knows the rules now, understands his posts are going to be scrutinized (scrutinised for our British friends like Tatyana) with a fine tooth comb, and has expressed willingness to play nicely.

I do think he gave some great advice regarding gear use. Some of it went against mainstream thinking which is not necessarily a bad thing. It gets people thinking and debating and as long as that is done in a constructive manner is good for this board. There is more than one right way to use A.A.S, ancillaries, diet, etc and counterpoints should be welcomed. We aren't robots.

Personal issues or feelings toward someone should be irrelevant on this board, because like life, we have to work and live with people that we don't like.

If his products suck, that will be determined pretty quickly. If they are dangerous, then we can easily find ways to make him accountable for that. I know this board gets sick of people pitching their products. In some way it is seen as a less than noble profession and a less than credible way to go about selling them.

We don't get a Nike guy pitching how great the newest shoes are, but everywhere you look you see a swoosh, Tiger Woods, marketing etc. These guys are doing the same thing but don't have millions of dollars for marketing campaigns that make a product "seem" legit.

I respect a guy that has to knock on doors or personally pitch his products to people every day. That takes a lot of work and balls to do. Especially getting a door slammed in your face every couple seconds. If his product is shit, then it won't fly.

Let's give him one more chance to do it right.
 
hey man everyone deserves a 2nd chance , what kind of products is he gonna push on here .. if yall dont mind me askin .. maybe his products should be tested by a mod or vet before he allowed to sell .. just a thought
 
Fuck him, I dont need to be subjected to anymore "the Ross protocols" threads. I mean, who the fuck is "Ross"?

We are down one on the panty waste quota tho with Tony gone.
 
galaxy said:
Fuck him, I dont need to be subjected to anymore "the Ross protocols" threads. I mean, who the fuck is "Ross"?

We are down one on the panty waste quota tho with Tony gone.
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agreed

so mods whats the outcome of this?
 
I say yes....He was entertaining, and as ST8GRAD said, his posts did provoke debate. Just keep him on a short leash.
 
JslJsl22 said:
I guess everyone deserves a second chance.... however, if you do grant a second chance, just monitor his posts a little closer to make sure no one gets hurt...
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He already had his second chance. It would be his third at least.
 
slat1 said:
He already had his second chance. It would be his third at least.
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exactly! the guy is a douchebag. He isnt gonna change. if you dont believe me. register at outlaw and look at the shit that he and holypieceofshitghost are pulling.
 
Well, I only read through a few pages of this thread and have never spoken with Ross, but heres my opinion. I gather that both his advice as well as his 'products' have hurt people in the past. That right there is enough for me. Not to mention Tatyanas personal opinion, which says alot to me as well. It's unbelievable that you guys are considering letting him return.

Would you go back to a doctor that has a proven history of malpractice, just because his attitude has changed? This is peoples health and well-being were talking about people. Come the fuck on.

Just my .02.

(PS. Sorry about not posting much bros, been insanely busy!)

Take care guys.

Chris
 
BTW-

I'm asking about Ross because he is a genuine fellow. I don't think brining Holy Ghost back will be part of the deal.
 
You know BRR, perhaps I was being irrational?

We're all grown men (and women :)) here and should be able to differentiate between the bullshit and decide for ourselves if we take Ross' advice or not. I'm sure all the good knowledgable people will keep an eye on him and I expect Tatyana will keep his bullshit in line.

I trust your judgement and if you feel he deserves another chance then perhaps he does. I've just heard alot of bad things about him.

Chris
 
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My question is, is he coming back as a sponsor or just as a member?
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Providing that he'd be willing to let some random guys here try his products and keep logs before we offer him a contract... I think that we might just let him become a sponsor.

My only real concern is that peace is maintained in the forums and that Ross' products live up to their promises. I think we can all agree to welcome his company with open arms long as he supplies us with fine Bodybuilding goods...

Shitty products will only cause people post discontent on the forums and make everybody look bad. Especially the company selling them...

Its a risk to advertise on these forums if your products aren't up to speed... The members will chew you. If Ross feels that what he is putting on the table is John-Blaze enough for us to find effective... Maybe we should give him chance to impress us or die trying...


As far as his attitude and such. I think we can all agree we have good Mods and Mentors here who help set a good example for everybody... If there are any problems, they will only last long enough to be entertaining.
 
Big Rick Rock said:
Providing that he'd be willing to let some random guys here try his products and keep logs before we offer him a contract... I think that we might just let him become a sponsor.

My only real concern is that peace is maintained in the forums and that Ross' products live up to their promises. I think we can all agree to welcome his company with open arms long as he supplies us with fine Bodybuilding goods...

Shitty products will only cause people post discontent on the forums and make everybody look bad. Especially the company selling them...

Its a risk to advertise on these forums if your products aren't up to speed... The members will chew you. If Ross feels that what he is putting on the table is John-Blaze enough for us to find effective... Maybe we should give him chance to impress us or die trying...


As far as his attitude and such. I think we can all agree we have good Mods and Mentors here who help set a good example for everybody... If there are any problems, they will only last long enough to be entertaining.
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well put.
 
Big Rick Rock said:
Providing that he'd be willing to let some random guys here try his products and keep logs before we offer him a contract... I think that we might just let him become a sponsor.

My only real concern is that peace is maintained in the forums and that Ross' products live up to their promises. I think we can all agree to welcome his company with open arms long as he supplies us with fine Bodybuilding goods...

Shitty products will only cause people post discontent on the forums and make everybody look bad. Especially the company selling them...

Its a risk to advertise on these forums if your products aren't up to speed... The members will chew you. If Ross feels that what he is putting on the table is John-Blaze enough for us to find effective... Maybe we should give him chance to impress us or die trying...


As far as his attitude and such. I think we can all agree we have good Mods and Mentors here who help set a good example for everybody... If there are any problems, they will only last long enough to be entertaining.
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good proposal for ross to READ
 
Big Rick Rock said:
Providing that he'd be willing to let some random guys here try his products and keep logs before we offer him a contract... I think that we might just let him become a sponsor.

My only real concern is that peace is maintained in the forums and that Ross' products live up to their promises. I think we can all agree to welcome his company with open arms long as he supplies us with fine Bodybuilding goods...

Shitty products will only cause people post discontent on the forums and make everybody look bad. Especially the company selling them...

Its a risk to advertise on these forums if your products aren't up to speed... The members will chew you. If Ross feels that what he is putting on the table is John-Blaze enough for us to find effective... Maybe we should give him chance to impress us or die trying...


As far as his attitude and such. I think we can all agree we have good Mods and Mentors here who help set a good example for everybody... If there are any problems, they will only last long enough to be entertaining.
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IF you bring HIM BACK don't let HIM talk LIKE tHiS :chainsaw:
 
This is like his 10th oppurtunity on boards. But hey, its your house. Can we at least do without the gayvatar of him by the pool?

And as long as Im allowed to put him on ignore and hes not a COTB Im good.
 
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