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Is there anything at all that will help with my mood? I'll even drink some fockin herbal tea i've been crying my eyes out for the passed 3 days
Relief from post cycle depression
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Big Rick Rock
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Are you using anything like Clomid bro?
Some guys get depressed on it.
Some guys get depressed on it.
With a proper PCT you shouldn't be feeling down.
Icecreampaintjob
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I'm on week 4 of 6 of nolva and clomid
protocall is
nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20
clomid 150mg first day 100mg 2-7 50mg 8-42
I was doing great up until i found out a friend of mine was raped. Wasn't prepared to handle something like that. Desperate for some relief
Big Rick Rock
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That kind of stuff is enough to make anyone depressed. Maybe you need to just cry it out that one time and be done or see a counselor about it for a visit. Don't mistake regular life troubles for post cycle depression. That being said bro Clomid does turn a lot of bros into crying lil girls.
there are 2 things wrong here
1. I am not an advocate of the 2 SERM pct.
2. your dosages are way too high anyway
I would stop taking both right now and let them leave your system.. then start from scratch and run the PCT in my signature which still involves SERM use, but you run it properly.
PS. sorry about your friend. I hope that prick gets whats coming to him
Icecreampaintjob
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The problem is i was running test only for around 6-7 months. Never touched hcg. I'm confident that i can recover because im 21 and this was my first "cycle" but i think i need to stick it out and finish pct. I know that its the clomid because i'm very up and down and i haven't cried in 4 years prior to gear. Even if i drop the clomid now i read it will take at least 27 days to clear my system. If that's the case i might as well keep taking it and stay on top of my bloodwork. Thanks for the support real shxt
Icecreampaintjob
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i know it is the clomid because i don't cry. Haven't cried in 4 years prior to gear. I think i need to ride it out because like i said up there i was on for a long time and never used hcg
it will take a couple weeks to completely clear your system.. but if you insist in taking it atleast drop the dosage down. you are running way too much !
you still should take my advice and run a better pct.. part of pct is feeling good, not crying everyday. that isn't a good pct
Icecreampaintjob
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What would you consider a better pct? Another possibility to how im feeling could be due to stopping arimidex cold turkey a week and a half ago. I am very sensitive to estrogen which is why i came off. I need an ai even at 175 test a week otherwise i'll be crying just like im feeling now. I was taking arimidex at .25mg eod through pct but it wasn't dosed correctly so i figured i'd just stop taking it altogether and then a week later i got all these depressed emotional symptoms
I agree with Steve that the dosages of SERMS you are running are too high. People take SERMS like they are Flintstone vitamins but they often cause more side effects then the drugs you used in the cycle itself.
After your next cycle, run the perfect PCT protocol: The Perfect Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) - Evolutionary.org
That article recommends Clomid, which is probably the cause of his problems.
I've been saying it since 1998 -- Clomid sucks ass. Horrible, horrible, useless drug.
Big Rick Rock
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You are just the kind of bro we made Hcgenerate for, the guys who do not respond well to Clomid.
Hit me up via PM and I'll hook you up with a bottle so you can add it to PCT see if that helps any man.
People don't realize that some HCGenerate with BRIDGE and a little arimidex is all they need and is the best way to recover. EVen if Comid helped, you'd have to go off and then you're back to square one.
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Nelson I prefer armistane as my anti-e
Icecreampaintjob
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Appreciate the replies and concern, thank you
That'll work.
Id suggest doing something else you enjoy, instead of lifting. Post cycle Id focus more on maintenance and maybe cutting back on the force feeding and fucking giving your body a little break. If you are already running cycles on and off, your not going to gain much of anything, if you are already large, during the off periods anyway. Try to embrace that mentality and train more for the vent, hit the strength records you can for your mind, and just focus on some other shit for a while.
Ive been embracing the idea that I will have my growth phases when Im on my HRT , and when Im off or cutting back on food for a break, I just maintain and still hit some strength records. I focus my mind on other shit that I enjoy though, instead of being consumed by the constant regimen.
I dont fuck with PCT anymore. All it does is give me side effects and joint pain. Fuck that shit.
KILL THAT SHIT
Ive been embracing the idea that I will have my growth phases when Im on my HRT , and when Im off or cutting back on food for a break, I just maintain and still hit some strength records. I focus my mind on other shit that I enjoy though, instead of being consumed by the constant regimen.
I dont fuck with PCT anymore. All it does is give me side effects and joint pain. Fuck that shit.
KILL THAT SHIT
Icecreampaintjob
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Yeah thats another problem.. I still train like im on steroids but my joints and tendons are going to shxt, sprained my ankle running 8 miles a day, pulled my calf the next week trying to do cardio with one leg..
Know how it is brother. I havent run alot of cycles yet , and never anything too high, and now Im mainly just on HRT which keeps my test levels in a good range all the time. So I dont have the highs and lows anymore like before. I find I make consistant progress this way. Of course its still a much longer process then running heavy gear, but there are no down periods either. My strength gains have been weekly, sometimes multiple records a week, since I came back from the 10 month break I took. For about a year straight. There was a few times where I took a few weeks off.
Size gains are always much slower than strength gains for me, but Ive been adding alot in back/chest measurement yearly. Arms have been stubborn as fuck and havent broken 19 1/2 cold since 2012. My straight arm relaxed measurement went up an inch but not the flexed. Ive tried 100 sets to failure of arms split into two sessions. Thats another issue though.
Overall the HRT has really kept shit steady. You can always add to it as well and then go off the extra shit and just stay on the HRT dose rather than going off of everything. You dont really need PCT that way either. Not that I ever used it anyway. Never did a shitload of cycles though.
Cycles where you gain alot of strength can be the most decieving. With the superdrol, before the ban, I got massive strength increases. When I went off my joints hurt like hell and everything felt heavier than before I was on it. I gained some permanent muscle and strength I think, but it wasnt noticable when I went off at first.
You may want to consider incorporating HRT if you can get it prescribed. Or you can just get some test and run it like you would HRT. 200 mg a week or so, all the time. You may want to take some breaks off of everything sometimes, but for the most part you can stay on if bloodwork is coming back clean. With black market its hard to know what the fuck you are getting though.
KILL THAT SHIT
Icecreampaintjob
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I'm 21 no ones prescribing me hrt. But thats what i was doing for the last 8 months or so. 500mg test for 12 weeks then dropped the dose to 175 and i was a machine. I dont do well with estrogen though, only reason i came off. These research chemical ai's suck and without a strong dose of arimidex test makes me depressed and emotional. I used to cry watching ufc, the gains werent worth it.. Lol. If i ever touch gear again its gunna be doctors prescription trt so my e2 is balanced out or im just gunna stay on masteron year round hahaha
You should still have some good years without it then. I didnt fuck with hormones until about 10 years into my training. You can gain plenty that way.
I might cry if I started watching cable tv again too. That shit was depressing as fuck. ha ha. Used to be a time killer for me, but wasted so much of my life watching bullshit.
Only thing Id say is, try not to get caught up in the concept of more being better when it comes to drugs. Drugs really only provide an extra maybe 5 or 10 percent to whats already there, when your foundation is already solid (eating consistancy, training intensity and consistancy, etc).
The more you use, the more you need to maintain it. So you set yourself up for continual chemical warfare. Id reccomend taking the slower route and using moderately. Making solid progress each year. Im on HRT and find 200 mg a week is working great for me, and Im not a beginner. Ive been training 21 years and still growing on 200 mg TRT dose. Because of my low hormone use so far, Im able to maintain most all my size without even being on HRT. So Id suggest embracing that route and you should last alot longer and keep getting larger and stronger for many years to come. Just means you gotta train harder and more intense than the drug abusers, but when you want it youll fuckin do it. Trying to take shortcuts leads to deficiencies down the line and other issues. You also develop a mental reliance on the hormones. You wont even want to train when you go off a mega dose cycle. It can make you believe that your normal state is much larger and stronger than it really is. Rapid strength increases also can tear tendons and anabolics can dry them out when abused.
KEEP KILLIN THAT SHIT !!
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