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Reg jui-jitsu VS BJJ
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ones from brazil, the other isnt ;D
umm......im not sure on this so im probably wrong but......
i think regular JJ has striking moves in it (like eye strikes and shit) and grappling where as BJJ is mostly if not all grappling
i might be completely off the money here, but no-one else has said anything yet so i thought i might as well post
also i would imagine BJJ stemmed from JJ so it might be very different in terms of the moves and shiat
umm......im not sure on this so im probably wrong but......
i think regular JJ has striking moves in it (like eye strikes and shit) and grappling where as BJJ is mostly if not all grappling
i might be completely off the money here, but no-one else has said anything yet so i thought i might as well post
also i would imagine BJJ stemmed from JJ so it might be very different in terms of the moves and shiat
Kwai-Chang Caine
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The diiference is in practice!
The difference is mainly in how they practice and conduct a class. BJJ schools aren't family fun centers like most places where martial arts are taught these days. You won't find out of control kids, soccer moms, or Bruce Lee wannabes in BJJ or MMA schools.
To be more specific about how it differs from Japanese juijitsu...
Brazilian Jujitsu is actually more of an offshoot from Judo than it is from Juijitsu. A judo master by the name of Meada taught the Gracie family his style of Judo and the Gracies adapted it even further into an almost all grappling system.
I think the most obvious difference in Brazilian jujitsu versus Japanese styles of juijitsu are the way in which they practice. Brazilian jujitsu is sparring intensive. They emphasize submission grappling, not katas,or throws, or kicks, or even hand strikes. Since they concentrate so much of their efforts into mastering and practicing submission grappling they are simply the most technically sound at it. Japanese jujitsu schools show you same things and even throw in some weapons training and striking technique, but they usually can't hold a candle to BJJ practicioners on the ground. BJJ is also definitely less of an art than is Japanese Juijitsu. BJJ is more of a street fighting system and as such is considered the "dirtiest" form of jujitsu you can learn.
If it were me I would choose BJJ over JJJ. I think it's definitely more suited for today's environment than is JJJ. And if you don't believe me just pick up any UFC video with Royce Gracie in it or perhaps a Pride video with Rickson Gracie.
I hope that helps you out some.
The difference is mainly in how they practice and conduct a class. BJJ schools aren't family fun centers like most places where martial arts are taught these days. You won't find out of control kids, soccer moms, or Bruce Lee wannabes in BJJ or MMA schools.
To be more specific about how it differs from Japanese juijitsu...
Brazilian Jujitsu is actually more of an offshoot from Judo than it is from Juijitsu. A judo master by the name of Meada taught the Gracie family his style of Judo and the Gracies adapted it even further into an almost all grappling system.
I think the most obvious difference in Brazilian jujitsu versus Japanese styles of juijitsu are the way in which they practice. Brazilian jujitsu is sparring intensive. They emphasize submission grappling, not katas,or throws, or kicks, or even hand strikes. Since they concentrate so much of their efforts into mastering and practicing submission grappling they are simply the most technically sound at it. Japanese jujitsu schools show you same things and even throw in some weapons training and striking technique, but they usually can't hold a candle to BJJ practicioners on the ground. BJJ is also definitely less of an art than is Japanese Juijitsu. BJJ is more of a street fighting system and as such is considered the "dirtiest" form of jujitsu you can learn.
If it were me I would choose BJJ over JJJ. I think it's definitely more suited for today's environment than is JJJ. And if you don't believe me just pick up any UFC video with Royce Gracie in it or perhaps a Pride video with Rickson Gracie.
I hope that helps you out some.
Kwai-Chang Caine
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My best advice you is to go with what you can then bro. If JJJ is all you have then it's definitely better than Tae Kwon Do, Kung Fu, Karate, and a bunch of other arts, The JJJ will teach you some valuable stuff, but it will teach you quite a few unessential things as well. I am generalizing of course. In recent years some JJJ instructors have actually tailored their classes to be more BJJ-esque so to speak because it is more marketable that way and also because JJJ instructors and practicioners have a sort complex due to the fact that they aren't the "masters of the ground" anymore. Gracie and Brazilian Jujitsu arent two things you would probably want to mention to a hardcore JJJ instructor.
AGAIN, I AM GENERALIZING. I have seen a handful of JJJ people who were silky smooth groundfighters, but a good majority of them are not. It's simply not as important to them as it is to BJJ people.
The best thing for you to do is go check it out a couple times. If after a whole week of viewing them you don't see the instructor devote ample amounts of time toward ground fighting and ground free sparing you should probably stay away. Juijitsu without chokes and joint locks is like boxing without punches. Just my .02 of course.
AGAIN, I AM GENERALIZING. I have seen a handful of JJJ people who were silky smooth groundfighters, but a good majority of them are not. It's simply not as important to them as it is to BJJ people.
The best thing for you to do is go check it out a couple times. If after a whole week of viewing them you don't see the instructor devote ample amounts of time toward ground fighting and ground free sparing you should probably stay away. Juijitsu without chokes and joint locks is like boxing without punches. Just my .02 of course.
Classical jujitsu=less practical for self defense sitautions. they focus more on tradition and formalities of the art.
BJJ=more practical ,but is usually more sport oriented which can also be very applicable to street application but I would not suggest rolling around in the guard on the asphault while someone is trying to punch you in the head
Definitely go with BJJ, you will get in better shape and have more confidence in your ability b-c you will have real expereince with real people instead of someone just grabbing your wrist and telling you that it would break if they really did it
Later
TH
BJJ=more practical ,but is usually more sport oriented which can also be very applicable to street application but I would not suggest rolling around in the guard on the asphault while someone is trying to punch you in the head
Definitely go with BJJ, you will get in better shape and have more confidence in your ability b-c you will have real expereince with real people instead of someone just grabbing your wrist and telling you that it would break if they really did it
Later
TH
SofaGeorge
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Rgo, people seem to be missing the main difference between BJJ and Japanese JJ. It is actually very simple in description (though very complicated in application.) Simply stated, the difference is in whether or not you want to go to the floor. BJJ is built around the take down and grappling on the mat. It is extremely effective. JJJ tries to avoid rolling on the ground. It is also very effective.
If you are fighting against a highly skilled opponent BJJ is going to give you an edge; however, the history of martial arts brawlers is filled with legendary guys who studied traditional JJ and kicked butt. You aren't going to go wrong with either.
If you are fighting against a highly skilled opponent BJJ is going to give you an edge; however, the history of martial arts brawlers is filled with legendary guys who studied traditional JJ and kicked butt. You aren't going to go wrong with either.
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