RECOVERY -- WHen Does it REALLY Start?

[needtogetaas]

So then for the most part, I realize this varies, but in your opinion what would be the best known compounds for ones PCT and how would they go about this? I'm curious compound specific wise. In the past you expressed how Nolvadex is hardly beneficial or effective today as well as Proviron. Are yo able to expound along those lines?

I do not believe I have ever seen nelson say that provirone has no uses in todays steroid world. Maybe during a pct but not altogether. Lets not put words into peoples mouths here good friend.

 

[needtogetaas]

I never said Proviron wasn't beneficial, though with UNLEASHED you can get a similar effect with less sides.

As it stands, I think the ideal PCT is HMG, UNLEASHED, POST CYCLE, HCGenerate and Aromasin followed by BRIDGE and GEAR.

Ya I was pretty damn sure I never once seen you saying something like provirone wasn't beneficial.

 

[needtogetaas]

I never said Proviron wasn't beneficial, though with UNLEASHED you can get a similar effect with less sides.

As it stands, I think the ideal PCT is HMG, UNLEASHED, POST CYCLE, HCGenerate and Aromasin followed by BRIDGE and GEAR.

My idea of a good pct varies a lot depending on the person and the cycle. so I am always changing it up based on these things.

 

[needtogetaas]

putting to the top because I want to come back to this in a few mins. Doing something now. Need it for write up lol

 

[Nelson Montana]

My idea of a good pct varies a lot depending on the person and the cycle. so I am always changing it up based on these things.

Of course. But I think the basis of PCT is consistent. What works works for the most part. And my main point for many years now has been twofold. One: Clomid and Nolva are essentially crappy drugs. And two: the main objective is to get the body operating on its own. That's what these supplements were designed to do.

Then again, there are always individual factors -- length, type of drug, propensity for gyno -- and that's when you have to zero in and personalize it a bit more.

 

[needtogetaas]

Of course. But I think the basis of PCT is consistent. What works works for the most part. And my main point for many years now has been twofold. One: Clomid and Nolva are essentially crappy drugs. And two: the main objective is to get the body operating on its own. That's what these supplements were designed to do.

Then again, there are always individual factors -- length, type of drug, propensity for gyno -- and that's when you have to zero in and personalize it a bit more.

Exactly. we now have the fundamentals with so much more

 

[Ross]

The objective is to transition from an artificial anabolic state into a natural anabolic state, which is accomplished quite effectively with a fully comprehensive PCT; including a combination of both drugs and supplements designed to increase testosterone while simultaneously promoting anabolism via one or more other pathways.

We are truly revolutionizing the steroid community over here at Elite Fitness, stay tuned for what Need2 and I have cooking now!

 

[needtogetaas]

The objective is to transition from an artificial anabolic state into a natural anabolic state, which is accomplished quite effectively with a fully comprehensive PCT; including a combination of both drugs and supplements designed to increase testosterone while simultaneously promoting anabolism via one or more other pathways.

We are truly revolutionizing the steroid community over here at Elite Fitness, stay tuned for what Need2 and I have cooking now!

Still there is a lot more to pct then this. I have been workling all night on my next mailer. You will see

 

[needtogetaas]

and needto's always got something cooking.

 

[*Swifto*]

Sounds perfect. All good valid points

Nicely done Needto.