Ready for 1st Cycle

[ToolManSam]

Hey everyone,

I've been on a few forums and posted here a few times, still very much a newbie tho

Just a quick summary of myself:

Been training on/off for over 20yrs
Went from 110lbs (bf unknown, lol) to 170lbs 14% bf...then been bordering that weight for 10yrs; NOT committed to the gym
Been going hard at it last couple yrs but stuffing bad cals in and got to
180lbs and 20% bf late Nov '13
Now I am 168lbs at 12% bf
That roughly a loss of 15lbs fat / 3lbs of muscle gain in 3months. I have been BUSTIN my ass!!!

I'm glad I have done the research I have and am going to start my cycle next Monday. Not originally understanding that I needed to get my bf lower before cycling REALLY helped me get in tune with my diet and training response. I honestly feel like I know what I can get away with (prob sounds terrible to be like that but I'm human. If I can't stop thinking about deep fried chicken wings or poutine...anywayz)

I have all my gear bought and on hand.

I have:
20week supply of Test Cyp (500mg/wk)
20week supply of Deca (500mg/wk)
HCG
Nolva
Chlomid
B6

My friend says I should stack the Test and Deca to get my 1st best gains. After reading so much about how hard Deca can shut you down and the fact I cannot find a decent source for Dostinex or Bromo I am going to opt to NOT run the Deca until later on. I may even run my Test at 400mg/wk for 12-16weeks

Couple things:

Does Deca expire? I expect the trolls to rear their ugly heads and chew me out. Some guys are relentless; I think this is a valid question. I have the shit and thinking about holding off for quite a long time possibly

What is coming off Test like? I am very level headed. I will do a FULL PCT and am working with a naturopath so I will be getting my bloodwork done

Also. I said it before, I feel I REALLY know my diet. I think I can set a base of maintenance cals where I'll be able to build lean muscle slowly and even drop bf if I want..(this is painfully slow). I guess my question is this; should I add a surplus of calories to bulk a bit and sacrifice gaining 3-4% bf increase while cycling to gain as much muscle as I can or can I effectively use the anabolic response to build my muscle faster by floating just a smidge above my maintenance levels to build the leanest muscle I can.

Just not sure the best approach. Some say the Test Cyp will blow me up and bf% will be hard to measure with the water retention and I will naturally lean out coming off

Ideally my goal is to maintain 10-15lbs muscle from this cycle and possibly drop 1-2% bf over a total of 20-24 weeks..that's 4 weeks after FULL PCT

Any feedback would be appreciated

Thank you

 

[C0LUMB0]

Hey everyone,

I've been on a few forums and posted here a few times, still very much a newbie tho

Just a quick summary of myself:

Been training on/off for over 20yrs
Went from 110lbs (bf unknown, lol) to 170lbs 14% bf...then been bordering that weight for 10yrs; NOT committed to the gym
Been going hard at it last couple yrs but stuffing bad cals in and got to
180lbs and 20% bf late Nov '13
Now I am 168lbs at 12% bf
That roughly a loss of 15lbs fat / 3lbs of muscle gain in 3months. I have been BUSTIN my ass!!!

I'm glad I have done the research I have and am going to start my cycle next Monday. Not originally understanding that I needed to get my bf lower before cycling REALLY helped me get in tune with my diet and training response. I honestly feel like I know what I can get away with (prob sounds terrible to be like that but I'm human. If I can't stop thinking about deep fried chicken wings or poutine...anywayz)

I have all my gear bought and on hand.

I have:
20week supply of Test Cyp (500mg/wk)
20week supply of Deca (500mg/wk)
HCG
Nolva
Chlomid
B6

My friend says I should stack the Test and Deca to get my 1st best gains. After reading so much about how hard Deca can shut you down and the fact I cannot find a decent source for Dostinex or Bromo I am going to opt to NOT run the Deca until later on. I may even run my Test at 400mg/wk for 12-16weeks

Couple things:

Does Deca expire? I expect the trolls to rear their ugly heads and chew me out. Some guys are relentless; I think this is a valid question. I have the shit and thinking about holding off for quite a long time possibly

What is coming off Test like? I am very level headed. I will do a FULL PCT and am working with a naturopath so I will be getting my bloodwork done

Also. I said it before, I feel I REALLY know my diet. I think I can set a base of maintenance cals where I'll be able to build lean muscle slowly and even drop bf if I want..(this is painfully slow). I guess my question is this; should I add a surplus of calories to bulk a bit and sacrifice gaining 3-4% bf increase while cycling to gain as much muscle as I can or can I effectively use the anabolic response to build my muscle faster by floating just a smidge above my maintenance levels to build the leanest muscle I can.

Just not sure the best approach. Some say the Test Cyp will blow me up and bf% will be hard to measure with the water retention and I will naturally lean out coming off

Ideally my goal is to maintain 10-15lbs muscle from this cycle and possibly drop 1-2% bf over a total of 20-24 weeks..that's 4 weeks after FULL PCT

Any feedback would be appreciated

Thank you

yes juice does have an exp. date

you wont feel any different but yes you will want to do a proper PCT when comming off ...post-up what you have planned .

either bulk or cut...choose your goal and dont mince around at maintenance calories. in your case i would bulk .

run the test cyp for 10 -12 weeks @ 500mg , forget about the deca on this cycle.
arimidex 0.5mg twice a a week .

 

[ToolManSam]

yes juice does have an exp. date

you wont feel any different but yes you will want to do a proper PCT when comming off ...post-up what you have planned .

either bulk or cut...choose your goal and dont mince around at maintenance calories. in your case i would bulk .

run the test cyp for 10 -12 weeks @ 500mg , forget about the deca on this cycle.
arimidex 0.5mg twice a a week .

My PCT will error on the safer side and be squeeky clean
I will be running HCG, Chlomid and Nolva and having my bloods done

Thanks for the reply

 

[dylangemelli]

My PCT will error on the safer side and be squeeky clean
I will be running HCG, Chlomid and Nolva and having my bloods done

Thanks for the reply

that's not even close to a squeaky clean pct... its horrible... you DON'T USE hcg in pct... that's the LAST thing you want to do... you will me mimicking LH in pct along with the possibility of raising estrogen... amongst other issues it can cause... that would leave you with a serm only pct which is not enough for full recovery and keepability... here is a complete cycle layout with a much more optimal pct for you...

1-12 test cyp 350 mg week
1-14 gw-501516 20 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
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5-12 hcgenerate Bodybuilding, Need to Build Muscle, Muscle Bodybuilding
13-14 hcg 1000 ius week

pct 15-18

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com

nolva 40/20/20/20 AG-guys.com

aromasin 12.5 mg eod AG-guys.com

n2guard n2bm.com
ostarine 25 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators





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