R-ALA is it really worth the extra money?

[manny78]

What happens regarding r-ALA and your liver after 40?

I believe you should increase to 400 mg.

 

[Fonz]

OK, Fonz, as you can imagine I have a few questions about your ALA trial.......

First one is what was your baseline response to the carb challenge (108g carbs without any ALA), what were the time points you measured, and what did you eat for the other meals of the day, when do you train, are you dieting, bulking or maintaining, are you using any gear (and how much)......That will do for starters.

Also, do you have the raw data for the two methods of glucose measurement for each test? Plus or minus 10% is a pretty big variance when you're looking at such small differences in blood glucose change.

Oh, and what was the carb source?

MS, the actual study was immensely watered-down.
Go to the AF Cycles section and you'll find the scientific
version.

Fonz

 

[MS]

Thanks, that answered my question about time points, but nothing else. It also appears that you ate, THEN took the ALA, is this correct? I'm asking because I want to try something similar, but in a post-workout carb challenge. I think it would be good to keep as many things the same as possible between your test and mine.

I'm particularly keen to see what your normal response to the carb challenge is without ANY ALA present.......honestly, the results with both the ALA and r-ALA indicate that you either have naturally good glucose sensitivity, or that both forms of ALA are working very well, but r-ALA is working *slightly* better . Without the baseline (no ALA) data, it's hard to make any sense out of your results. Please enlighten?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

honestly, the results with both the ALA and r-ALA indicate that you either have naturally good glucose sensitivity, ?

fonz is 24 years old, lean, and (believe) a endurance athelete at the collegiate level..

if that answers your question..

 

[Fonz]

Thanks, that answered my question about time points, but nothing else. It also appears that you ate, THEN took the ALA, is this correct? I'm asking because I want to try something similar, but in a post-workout carb challenge. I think it would be good to keep as many things the same as possible between your test and mine.

I'm particularly keen to see what your normal response to the carb challenge is without ANY ALA present.......honestly, the results with both the ALA and r-ALA indicate that you either have naturally good glucose sensitivity, or that both forms of ALA are working very well, but r-ALA is working *slightly* better . Without the baseline (no ALA) data, it's hard to make any sense out of your results. Please enlighten?

OK. I see what you mean.
I'll test myself w/o any ALA. Just the Carbs in the AM.
I'll do it 3 times to reduce the probability of deviation.
That should give use the actual potency of the ALA
in relation to ME.

I'll update the AF section when I do.

Fonz

 

[MS]

Great, thanks Fonz. I know it's a pain...that's another 12 finger pricks

I'll be doing the same. In the first instance I'll just compare baseline (no R-ALA) postworkout meal to the same meal with R-ALA. I will only try it with the racemic mixture if there is an obvious diff between R-ALA versus no R-ALA.