Questions about SUB-Q Injections for TRT

[testo66]

Hi all,
I just moved from androgel to 2 SC shots per week of 62.5mg T each (yielding 125MG per week) - for TRT.
I also introduced HCG as recommended - 2 SC shots of 250 IU per week (same day as T shot, each of them in a different place in the abdomen).

a few questions came up:
1. I read you can inject the T SC into the glute fat and it sounded like a nice idea -
where exactly is the recommended injection site in the glutes for sub-q?
is there a difference in the effect comparing to the abdomen?

2. I'm currently injecting with an BD Insulin Syringe 30G 8mm (5/16)-
is the needle long enough for SC in the abdomen & glutes?
and what length of syringe should I use (injecting no more the 0.25ML of T/0.1ML of HCG) - 1 ML or 0.5 ML?

3. as for the HCG -I can choose to use ovidrel or pregnyl (and using bacteriostatic water to keep them good for long of course)-
is the a difference between them? which is more recommended?
does either of them last only one month in the fridge after reconstitute with BW?

thank you for your help.

 

[Zyglamail]

Hi all,
I just moved from androgel to 2 SC shots per week of 62.5mg T each (yielding 125MG per week) - for TRT.
I also introduced HCG as recommended - 2 SC shots of 250 IU per week (same day as T shot, each of them in a different place in the abdomen).

a few questions came up:
1. I read you can inject the T SC into the glute fat and it sounded like a nice idea -
where exactly is the recommended injection site in the glutes for sub-q?
is there a difference in the effect comparing to the abdomen?

Im confused you say your using androgel and want to use it sub Q? If so thats a bad idea since the product, as far as I know, is not designed nor intended for injection at all, its topical.

For any kind of AAS I would stick to intramuscular injections.

2. I'm currently injecting with an BD Insulin Syringe 30G 8mm (5/16)-
is the needle long enough for SC in the abdomen & glutes?
and what length of syringe should I use (injecting no more the 0.25ML of T/0.1ML of HCG) - 1 ML or 0.5 ML?

For sub Q shots you just need to get through the skin so the needle doesnt need to be very long.

3. as for the HCG -I can choose to use ovidrel or pregnyl (and using bacteriostatic water to keep them good for long of course)-
is the a difference between them? which is more recommended?
does either of them last only one month in the fridge after reconstitute with BW?

thank you for your help.

Any brand name HCG will be fine and they will last longer than 30 days when reconstituted with BAW, exactly how long is uncertain. I notice effects, albeit slightly lessened, for HCG thats been reconstituted for 10+ weeks.

As for your HCG use, no need doing 2x 250IU shots on same day, just do 1x 500IU shot and do it a couple days after your test shot.

 

[traumaj1]

Hi all,
I just moved from androgel to 2 SC shots per week of 62.5mg T each (yielding 125MG per week) - for TRT.
I also introduced HCG as recommended - 2 SC shots of 250 IU per week (same day as T shot, each of them in a different place in the abdomen).

a few questions came up:
1. I read you can inject the T SC into the glute fat and it sounded like a nice idea -
where exactly is the recommended injection site in the glutes for sub-q?
is there a difference in the effect comparing to the abdomen?

2. I'm currently injecting with an BD Insulin Syringe 30G 8mm (5/16)-
is the needle long enough for SC in the abdomen & glutes?
and what length of syringe should I use (injecting no more the 0.25ML of T/0.1ML of HCG) - 1 ML or 0.5 ML?

3. as for the HCG -I can choose to use ovidrel or pregnyl (and using bacteriostatic water to keep them good for long of course)-
is the a difference between them? which is more recommended?
does either of them last only one month in the fridge after reconstitute with BW?

thank you for your help.

1: Theoretically, you can do SC in the arms, legs, abdomen, and glutes. I tend to stick to the abdomen with T. I'd say if you keep the injection site higher up on the glutes, then you should be good (I'd imagine it'd hurt to sit on a SC site). You could also stick to the abdomen with the T, and use the other sites for the HCG. Being water based, the HCG should absorb easier in other areas too.

2: Your needle length is fine... If you're hitting SC in the abdomen, you'll hit SC elsewhere. I would imagine it's hell pushing even that small of an amount of T through a 30G though. I use what amounts to a TB or intradermal needle (22G x 5/8 ). As for the "length"... I think you were asking about the volume no? If so, smaller amounts (the HCG), can be better measured with a smaller needle. A 0.5 or 1ml syringe will serve you best as long as you are able to figure the proper measurement. A 1ml should work fine for the T also. I use a 3ml, but I take 1ml/week.

3: I also think that as long as you stay with brand name, you're fine. As for viability after reconstitution... I don't know if I'd trust it over 10-12 weeks. I'm sure others would give you numbers that varied by months on either side of that though. When you look at a manufacturer's recommendation, it's based on how long they can guarantee the desired effects. Most drugs remain potent far beyond this recommendation, but in order to adhere to federal guidelines, there must be stipulations. Case in point... we send a tremendous amount of expired drugs to Mexico. Many are just as potent as the day they were manufactured, but not within federal/manufacturer standards anymore.

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[testo66]

first of all, thank you both for the quick responses.

Im confused you say your using androgel and want to use it sub Q? If so thats a bad idea since the product, as far as I know, is not designed nor intended for injection at all, its topical.

For any kind of AAS I would stick to intramuscular injections.

For sub Q shots you just need to get through the skin so the needle doesnt need to be very long.



Any brand name HCG will be fine and they will last longer than 30 days when reconstituted with BAW, exactly how long is uncertain. I notice effects, albeit slightly lessened, for HCG thats been reconstituted for 10+ weeks.

As for your HCG use, no need doing 2x 250IU shots on same day, just do 1x 500IU shot and do it a couple days after your test shot.

I was on androgel up until now, and have switched for the past week to sub-q injection of TEST enanthate.


to clarify again my dosage is 250IU two time a week separately, totaling 500IU every week. separating them suppose to help prevent e2 to rise. thanks for the insights.

1: Theoretically, you can do SC in the arms, legs, abdomen, and glutes. I tend to stick to the abdomen with T. I'd say if you keep the injection site higher up on the glutes, then you should be good (I'd imagine it'd hurt to sit on a SC site). You could also stick to the abdomen with the T, and use the other sites for the HCG. Being water based, the HCG should absorb easier in other areas too.


2: Your needle length is fine... If you're hitting SC in the abdomen, you'll hit SC elsewhere. I would imagine it's hell pushing even that small of an amount of T through a 30G though. I use what amounts to a TB or intradermal needle (22G x 5/8 ). As for the "length"... I think you were asking about the volume no? If so, smaller amounts (the HCG), can be better measured with a smaller needle. A 0.5 or 1ml syringe will serve you best as long as you are able to figure the proper measurement. A 1ml should work fine for the T also. I use a 3ml, but I take 1ml/week.


3: I also think that as long as you stay with brand name, you're fine. As for viability after reconstitution... I don't know if I'd trust it over 10-12 weeks. I'm sure others would give you numbers that varied by months on either side of that though. When you look at a manufacturer's recommendation, it's based on how long they can guarantee the desired effects. Most drugs remain potent far beyond this recommendation, but in order to adhere to federal guidelines, there must be stipulations. Case in point... we send a tremendous amount of expired drugs to Mexico. Many are just as potent as the day they were manufactured, but not within federal/manufacturer standards anymore.

thanks, can you please post a picture of the SC injection site on the glute? just to make sure.

yea the T shot with 30G does take a lot of patience but it gets done
is the smaller syringe will make the shot easier maybe?


thank you,any more insights about pregnyl or ovidrel? eventually they are different products.

 

[traumaj1]

first of all, thank you both for the quick responses.



thanks, can you please post a picture of the SC injection site on the glute? just to make sure.

yea the T shot with 30G does take a lot of patience but it gets done
is the smaller syringe will make the shot easier maybe?


thank you,any more insights about pregnyl or ovidrel? eventually they are different products.

Hard for me to explain with the syringes. You're creating pressure within the syringe when you inject... smaller volume syringes tend to have a potential for failure (the needles pop off or the liquid flows around the back of the stopper). As for the needles... The larger the diameter, the easier it is to inject.

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