Question for Bill - Boldione

[3000GT]

I'm planning on doing a cycle of boldione in hopes of EQ-type results. I'm trying to avoid any kind of negative estrogen/androgen side effects. Anyway, I know that EQ converts to estrogen about half as much as test, and I know that it converts to a stronger androgen, but to a negligible amount. So my question is, does the precursor convert to estrogen or another androgen along with it's conversion to boldenone? I believe that this was a problem with the early andros. Lots of fun sides to deal with, but no gains. Would you recommend running arimidex with it?

Thanks

 

[Bill Llewellyn]

I'm planning on doing a cycle of boldione in hopes of EQ-type results. I'm trying to avoid any kind of negative estrogen/androgen side effects. Anyway, I know that EQ converts to estrogen about half as much as test, and I know that it converts to a stronger androgen, but to a negligible amount. So my question is, does the precursor convert to estrogen or another androgen along with it's conversion to boldenone? I believe that this was a problem with the early andros. Lots of fun sides to deal with, but no gains. Would you recommend running arimidex with it?

Thanks

Its conversion is probably 25-50% actually, depending on which reference you trust.

Boldione converts directly to estrone like androstenedione does, but again, at a much lower rate.

I would not recommend using an anti-estrogen. I very rarely hear of estrogenic side effects with this PH, and more often get reports of exceptional lean-mass gains. I think it is enough to help support some of the anabolic pathways estrogen is involved in, but not enough for side effectle like bloat or gyno for most.

If you do need an anti-estrogen with Boldione, I'd suggest a few caps of Viratase before commiting to Arimidex. This is an extremely effective aromatase inhibitor, and too often overlooked.

 

[3000GT]

Thanks for your help Bill. But isn't viratase supposed to act like proviron, which would increase the probability of androgenic sides. The whole reason I want to use boldione (instead of 1-test) would be to avoid the androgenic sides.

 

[Bill Llewellyn]

Thanks for your help Bill. But isn't viratase supposed to act like proviron, which would increase the probability of androgenic sides. The whole reason I want to use boldione (instead of 1-test) would be to avoid the androgenic sides.

Yes, it acts like Proviron, but this steroid is much more androgenic as it is active. Viratase does have a low level of DHT conversion, but it should not be significant in terms of side effetcs. That said, I doubt you will need Viratase. It is typically geared for cycles with much more estrogen than this PH provides.