Question about mixing Fats and Carbs

[Tom Treutlein]

Okay, there's always a debate on this. Some say it's okay, others are against it, and still others suggest that for an ectomorph it's okay, but meso and endomorphs should avoid it. I want to keep them apart, since I believe myself to be a meso and would rather avoid fat gain if at all possible.

Now, my question is, what if I'm short on time in a particular day, and want to cram my 8 meals into 6? This would cause an overlap in fats and carbs. I normally have a 2-3 hour spacing for my meals, but on certain days I have to either stay up late, or eat every 1-1.5 hours (not a problem for me) - but if every other meal is fats (the opposite being carbs) then what should I do? I have meals 1, 3, and 6 as carbs. Meals 2 and 7 are fats. 4 and 5 pre and post-workout. Meal 8 is protein only, right before bed.

Would it be okay to eat every 1-2 hours or so in these situations, even though by the time I finish meal 2 and eat (an hour later) meal 3, fats will probably just start entering the bloodstream, just as I ingest carbs.

 

[juve]

Basically>
The good:
high EFA's - mod carbs (grains, veggies)=clean energy dense food
Not so good:
insulin resistance (eat carbs post workout only if you're really resistant; post and before workout if sensitivity normal or exceptional; add nutraceuticals)
Worst:
Sat/hydrogenated/trans fats + processed carbs -> this crap will LEAD to insulin resistance/diabetes

before bed with protein take some fats, especially if it's whey alone!

 

[Tom Treutlein]

It's tuna, cottage cheese, and some ANPB. So I do put some fats there, actually. For the purpose of slowing digestion.

How do I know if I'm resistant or not, exactly?

I have, currently, 3 carb meals, 2 fat, and 3 protein only (pre/post workout [besides dextrose which I sometimes use post] and before bed. I guess it's not only, since I have fats before bed but, whatever). So, should I drop carbs to only 2 meals and add in more EFAs and such, like almonds, peanuts and oils?

I was thinking I can keep meal 1 and 6 as carb meals (because that's the morning to get me going so I won't store a lot, and 6 would be at 4:30, 1 hour post-workout with some chicken breasts). Sound good?

The only carbs I have are oats, brown rice, and rarely some 7-grain bread.
Fats come from almonds, peanuts, ANPB, EV Olive Oil, UDO's Choice Oil...I think that's it.

 

[sawastea]

Here is a GREAT thread

 

[hardasnails2963]

if you really want an answer to this question on needs to find out how your blood levels response to certain food combinations.
For example

If your fats are Essential then a little bit will not kill you if you add them to protein/carb meals as long as they are esssential may be like 10-15 grams. In order to find the answer to your question. Get a gluclose monitor and check to see how it really affects your level.

With protein/fat meals same thing would apply. i would use either beans or low glycemic fruits for carbs. MOre so in this meal I would worry about amount of protein eaten becuae that can raise insulin just as high as carbs does becuase of gluconeogenisis. This fact alot of people tend to over look.

Another piece of advice i think people need to relax and don;t be so anal about "oh Shit I had 20.5 grams of carbs with my protein/fat meal" when a person becomes so obessed they need to take a step back and reevalute their decision and why they are doing this. Yes it may be phyiscal healthy but people need to take a look at the mental side. The mental side is almost more important then the phyiscal side of what we do. ALot of people need to take a good hard look becuae they stress over how much carbs or proten/carbs per meal. This behavior is more damaging then eating the damn extra caloires.