Putting on the mass

[jsimon]

Ok here is the post then swole.

Here are my stats.

Im about 6''-6'1 im currently 200LB
BF% I have complete AB form. (Not hand gripping though) So hopefully that can give you a rough idea.

Bicep size around 15.5

I am trying to put on lean weight

Supplemnts:
Whey Protien by ON
No Explode Creatine
Glycosmine by VPX sports
Animal Pak-multivitamin
Somtimes ZMA
Weight gainer *Muscle jUice*

Workout Schedule:
Monday-Chest,Tricep
Tuesday-Legs,Abs
Wednesday-OFF
Thursday-Back,Biceps
Friday-Shoulders,Abs
Saturday-OFF
Sunday-OFF

Should I eliminate cardio?

Meats: Chicken, Steak, Fish...(tuna) (shark) ect...Pork Chops (Anymore)?
Carbs:Oats,Wheat Bread, Wheat pasta,oatmeal, rice potatoes (Anymore)?
Side Dish's: Fruit,Vegtables, Cottage Cheese,
Other stuff: Eggs, Peanuts, Rice Cakes, Oddessy protien bars
Water, Cranberry Juice, Sugar-Free JELLO

How many meals A day Should I spread this out into?

8:00-9:00
6 eggs
1 cup of oats
1 cup of cranberry juice
2 pieces of wheat bread
2 scoops of whey protien

10:00
Protien bar

12:00
2 chicken breasts or wahtever meat
1 cup of vetables
cottage cheese
milk (Skim)

2:00
Peanuts, Rice Cakes, Protien bar maybe...

4:00
meat
vegtables
potatoes...

6:00PM
2 scoops of whey protien
creatine

8:00
2 scoops of whey protien
maybe weight gainer

10:00???
Bed.......hopefully

This deff. wasnt putting weight on...

 

[MUSTANG_18]

First off, I would drop the protein bars from your diet, as most of them are either loaded with fat or simple carbs or both. Replace them with more whole food such tuna on whole wheat, lean beef and brown rice ect...I would also drop the weight gainers from your diet as they are useless IMO. LOADED to the tits with sugar, replace it again with some whole food. Post workout I would take 2-3 scoops of a whey protein isolate and some dextrose. Right before bed I like to have 10-12 egg whites and 3-4 whole eggs, slower digesting and I find I never wake up to hungry. You should go to a diet planner website and count the total cals of your diet so you can get a better indication of where you are at and where you need to be to meet your goals. I would keep doing moderate cardio as well (great for your heart)

M18

 

[KenBraggofCarroltonGA]

switch to chest/bicep and back/tricep.
Or chest/back and tri/bi's

 

[jsimon]

whats a good diet planning website that counts everything?

 

[Watson]

Your not getting enough calories there buddy. That's a pussy ass diet your on. Don't be scared to take in some food if you want to gain some weight. You just HAVE to get the calories or your not gonna grow. It's simple. That is extremely well planed out, but there is just not enough calories, period.

P.S. Anyone that can get a good workout for the bi's and back when doing them together is just not seeing the light. Do them seperately. There is absolutely no way in my opinion that your biceps can have enough strength to get them a good workout and at the same time have enough stamina to hold enough weight to impact the back muscles. I've tried so many different workout routines and this one has never made sense to me.

 

[nipples]

You need more food in your belly man up the cals and watch those bi's grow.

 

[ricorico]

Your not getting enough calories there buddy. That's a pussy ass diet your on. Don't be scared to take in some food if you want to gain some weight. You just HAVE to get the calories or your not gonna grow. It's simple. That is extremely well planed out, but there is just not enough calories, period.

P.S. Anyone that can get a good workout for the bi's and back when doing them together is just not seeing the light. Do them seperately. There is absolutely no way in my opinion that your biceps can have enough strength to get them a good workout and at the same time have enough stamina to hold enough weight to impact the back muscles. I've tried so many different workout routines and this one has never made sense to me.

good post watson....pretty much exactly what i was thinking

 

[mish12345]

hi im 18 and am starting my 1st course of dbol very soon. i have 8weeks supply but do you think this is too long? should i keep below 20mg/day throughout the whole course? i have also been told to take clomid twice a week during my cycle. are the chances of acne lower seeing as my dosages wont be too high?
thanks, JAMES UK

 

[nipples]

do your research man before a cycle mish12345, and start your own thread don't jack this one.

 

[JKurz1]

Ok here is the post then swole.

Here are my stats.

Im about 6''-6'1 im currently 200LB
BF% I have complete AB form. (Not hand gripping thoughHUH?????) So hopefully that can give you a rough idea.

Bicep size around 15.5

I am trying to put on lean weight

Supplemnts:
Whey Protien by ON
No Explode Creatine
Glycosmine by VPX sports
Animal Pak-multivitamin
Somtimes ZMA - WASTE OF $$
Weight gainer *Muscle jUice* - NO!!!!

Workout Schedule:
Monday-Chest,Tricep
Tuesday-Legs,Abs
Wednesday-OFF
Thursday-Back,Biceps
Friday-Shoulders,Abs
Saturday-OFF
Sunday-OFF

Should I eliminate cardio? NO - BUT KEEP IT MINIMAL

Meats: Chicken, Steak, Fish...(tuna) (shark) ect...Pork Chops <---PASS
Carbs:Oats,Wheat Bread, Wheat pasta,oatmeal, SWEET potatoes
Side Dish's: Fruit,Vegtables, Cottage Cheese,
Other stuff: Eggs, Peanuts, Rice Cakes,<-- PW ONLY Oddessy protien bars - COMPLETE JUNK
Water, Cranberry Juice, Sugar-Free JELLO

How many meals A day Should I spread this out into?

8:00-9:00
6 eggs
1 cup of oats
1 cup of cranberry juice
2 pieces of wheat bread
2 scoops of whey protien

10:00
Protien bar - REPLACE WITHJ LEAN MEAT, COMPLEX CARB AND EFAS

12:00
2 chicken breasts or wahtever meat
1 cup of vetables
cottage cheese
milk (Skim)
NEED A COMPLEX CARB HERE

2:00
Peanuts, Rice Cakes, Protien bar maybe...-NO BARS ANYMORE, LOSE THE RICE CAKES, LEAN MEAT AND COMPLEX CARB

4:00
meat
vegtables
potatoes...----SWEET OR YAM

6:00PM
2 scoops of whey protien
creatine IS THIS PW?? IF SO GET A MEAL IN 1 HR LATER
ADD DEXTROSE

7:00
COMPLETE MEAL

9:55
2 scoops of whey protien
maybe weight gainer - NO WEIGHT GAINERS AND NO WHEY BEFORE BED, GO WITH COTTAGE CHEESE, SOME PEANUTS OR PEANUT BUTTER, CASEIN SHAKE.

10:00???
Bed.......hopefully

This deff. wasnt putting weight on...

MY SUGGESTIONS ARE IN CAPS

 

[van_wilder]

Your not getting enough calories there buddy. That's a pussy ass diet your on. Don't be scared to take in some food if you want to gain some weight. You just HAVE to get the calories or your not gonna grow. It's simple. That is extremely well planed out, but there is just not enough calories, period.

P.S. Anyone that can get a good workout for the bi's and back when doing them together is just not seeing the light. Do them seperately. There is absolutely no way in my opinion that your biceps can have enough strength to get them a good workout and at the same time have enough stamina to hold enough weight to impact the back muscles. I've tried so many different workout routines and this one has never made sense to me.

I eat about this much (probably a little more whole food) and man i walk around feeling sick all day... so full i can't stand the sight of food anymore! what can i do to make myself eat more????
VW

 

[JKurz1]

are you weighing your food? How much of each are you consuming would help.....

 

[ryan04]

I don't feel like reading your diet log, but Van Wilder is right about working bis and back seperately...biceps don't have enough stamina. If you can do the same amoung of pull-ups after doing some preachers, straight bar and concentration curls, I'll eat my words.

 

[Watson]

I don't feel like reading your diet log, but Van Wilder is right about working bis and back seperately...biceps don't have enough stamina. If you can do the same amoung of pull-ups after doing some preachers, straight bar and concentration curls, I'll eat my words.

Think that was me that said that. Anyway I have the same problem with eating, I just can't do it enough without hating food. I seriously hate to eat and the whole gaining weight thing is what caused this. I have thought about getting some appetite stimulants but I have never persued it. I may try that out though.

 

[natty]

hi im 18 and am starting my 1st course of dbol very soon. i have 8weeks supply but do you think this is too long? should i keep below 20mg/day throughout the whole course? i have also been told to take clomid twice a week during my cycle. are the chances of acne lower seeing as my dosages wont be too high?
thanks, JAMES UK

Make your own thread!

 

[mish12345]

Make your own thread!

how?? everyone tells me that but when i make one i cant find it!!

 

[mish12345]

hi i have some dbol - its my first ever course (im 18) and i will be starting on 15 mg/day going up to 40mg/day ino the 8th week. i also have some clomid which i am told to take twice a week throughout the course. do i need pct? is this course ok for a first? much chances of getting bad acne? will i be able to train for over an hour at a time? thanks

 

[Watson]

That has happened to me too, thread just never appeared. Anyway, no that's not a good first cycle. First of all your too young, but I know that won't stop you. At least research a little before you start anything. That first cycle is the most important in my opinion because of the amount you are able to gain. You want to take advantage of this and not do something you will regret later. A dbol only cycle is something you will not look back on too proudly, I guarantee it. Yes you need PCT.

p.s. I just reread your post and I don't think you have researched this one bit. Starting anything is a big step and I would love to go back with the knowledge I have now and be able to do my first cycle over again. Just think about this. The clomid throughout the cycle is ridiculous, save it for after. Bottom line is you need to rethink that cycle.

 

[Little B]

how?? everyone tells me that but when i make one i cant find it!!

go to main page and hit the little button on the top left that says new thread.................
then ask your ques..........

 

[jigatest]

hey for weight i used nlarge by pro lab and saw great results but if u like muscle juice is ok

 

[JKurz1]

hi i have some dbol - its my first ever course (im 18) and i will be starting on 15 mg/day going up to 40mg/day ino the 8th week. i also have some clomid which i am told to take twice a week throughout the course. do i need pct? is this course ok for a first? much chances of getting bad acne? will i be able to train for over an hour at a time? thanks

Excuse my blunness, but you are an idiot!

Youa re 18........GROW NATURALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Plus 8 weeks of Dbol is GARBAGE...........judging by your thread, your diet is sure to be out of wack too.........gain some knowledge FIRST!

 

[KenBraggofCarroltonGA]

I eat about this much (probably a little more whole food) and man i walk around feeling sick all day... so full i can't stand the sight of food anymore! what can i do to make myself eat more????
VW

Keep doing it and your body will get used to it. When you start getting hungry every 2.5 to 3 hrs and feel sick when you don't get to eat, then you know you are on the right track.