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Powerbuilder333
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Just bought another copy off of eBay.
nutshairy said:
I can't believe anyone here has NOT seen this movie.
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I downloaded off the internet. I loved the movie i watch it more then once a month though. lol. That shit was funny when he went to mens and womens correctional facility and when he went to do his MM that dude asked him for a kiss. I was lmao. Well yeah its a very good flick and i think everyone should see it.
theblondebomber
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not being a smart ass but how younge are you guys?i saw that movie 30 yrs.ago.nutshairy said:
I have.
needtogetarmy
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It is a classix.
It is a classix.
PI is really a brilliant movie -- filmed like a documentary but it's actually very cleverly scripted. The hero is also the "villain." The threat of the superman (Ferrigno) is juxtaposed with the fact that he's psychologically frail. (Lou was actually surprised when he saw the film, no knowing they were going to play up that angle). Originally it was to be about an underdog from nowhere toppling the king. Arnold was set to retire. But his ego made him train harder and his charisma was so strong that the producers decided to make him into this unstoppable machine. The subplot with Waller and Mike Katz was scripted. There's even a "third act surprise" which is standard script writing. That's when Serge Nubret shows up.
People complain that it should have had more bodybuilders of the time but they don't understand. It wasn't about bodybuilders. It was about competition. Bodybuilding was just the backdrop. It's an amazing picture and the game was irrevocably changed forever.
People complain that it should have had more bodybuilders of the time but they don't understand. It wasn't about bodybuilders. It was about competition. Bodybuilding was just the backdrop. It's an amazing picture and the game was irrevocably changed forever.
theblondebomber
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Arnold has always been my hero but in that movie i think Ferigno should have won.when he came back and did the Masters Olympia he should have won also.and i cant stand the man.BIGBUCK$ said:
xariesj2x said:
Yeah, if we only knew what they took then we could all look just like them.
I think what they were "on" that a lot of guys aren't on today is the line for the squat rack.
jhondo said:
Kidding right.
theblondebomber
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I can guarentee it was d-bol.anadrol(syntex)(the good ol days)test cyp.maybe deca for joint pain.thats about all there was then.but the shit was REALLLL!xariesj2x said:
theblondebomber said:
I can tell you that no one in 1977 spoke about Decca and joint pain. That belief didn't start until the early 90's.
Test was hardly used -- considered cheap and harsh.
Winstroll and Primmo were also around.
xariesj2x said:
Dball, mostly.
bsdgeek
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a friend of mine said that arnold was one of the first to introduce primo to the bb scene in the states. anyone else hear this? and is there any truth to it? it was mentioned that in an interview arnold was quoted as saying he loved dbol and primo. nelson, have you heard of this supposed interview??
oh, and BTW- that movie rocks! good motivation movie, feeling like your having a bad week, watch that show, then go to the gym, you'll feel way better.
oh, and BTW- that movie rocks! good motivation movie, feeling like your having a bad week, watch that show, then go to the gym, you'll feel way better.
bsdgeek said:
I've spoke of this a million times but I guess it's become a history lesson worth repeating.
I can't reveal the names and of course no one knows what went on behind closed doors, but reliable sources have said that Arnold was one of the first guys to really push the envelope by doing 50 mgs of dball and a 100mg shot of Primmo ED. That was OUTRAGEOUS at the time. Other guys like Danny Padillia supposedly only did dball as did many others. Oliva said his fav stack was 200 mgs of decca a week and 25 mgs of Winstrol - stanozolol a day. Draper said he just used Winstrol - stanozolol. Zane was said to like moderate amounts of Primmo and Winnee and Armour thyroid.
No one used gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - , diuretics, insulin, Clenbuterol, or Clomid.
And I can hear it now...everyone thinks the stuff was stronger back then. Nope. These guys were the genetic elite of the time and they trained far harder than the guys today. "Overtraining" wasn't in their vocabulary. The solution to any weakness was MORE training. And that's the sobering truth.
8and20 said:
I think to a great degree. One can certainly overtrain but you have to push yourself to see where that is. And again, the genetic elite respond to more training. Many can not. Then again, there are those who respond well to drugs. People who don't think the answer is more drugs. it's a waste. You'll only utilize so much.
Nelson Montana said:
When I first got my hands on the Modern Encyclopedia of Bodybuilding 16 years ago I tried my hardest to do the high volume training. Obviously that was my 1st experience with weights and it was way too much but as I advanced I could never recover quick enough to do it. For example my chest would be sore and tight that 1.5-2 days later when chest rolled around again I could barely move the bar (little exaggeration). I tried it again when I first experimented with steroids. I thought there was no such thing as overtraining with steroids (how wrong I was) and I still couldn't recover to do the program. Now I use a modified Dorian Yates HIT program with alot of drop sets. Seems to work well for me but I struggle within and it seems contrary to my instincts which tell me to do high volume double split.
Thoughts?
8and20 said:
To me, being sore for two days just means I had a good workout.
I don't think you should train high volume all the time but I think now and then you have to keep it real and push it. I constantly train using different techniques. I have a chapter in BOTTOM LINE BODYBUILDING about instinctive training that explains this. You have to learn what works best and when. That requires trying a lot of things and at different times.
airsmith2k
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Nelson Montana said:
hey someone was telling me that they did use hgh back then but i told him the stuff wasnt even invented yet but he insisted that it was....he told me u can tell because all of the guys had a gap between their teeth from their jaws growing from the hgh lol...found that kind of funny but they all do have gaps in their front teeth
chazk
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you were following arnolds "advanced contest training" where he hit everybody part once every two days.8and20 said:
arnold even says in his book that is for someone just before a contest and has been training for years to bring out the seperation and definition in the muscles.
seems like you should have givin arnolds intermediate training a shot it was hitting the muscles every 4th day
with a exception to calves ,forarms and biceps every second day or when they were brought up to match the rest of the body
chazk
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Lol I undestand .8and20 said:
That was my first bodybuilding book a gift to me at age 16 from my parents
I think I about killed myself with a joe weider barbell set doing every excersize incorrect while i lifted out back on the porch,
those were the days,and i still saw growth
I guess thats what gets us into it ,when we see results in the first few weeks vs the guys that don't see results they moved on to video games and stuff , while we kept lifting
I remember seeing Pumping Iron in 1978 at the age of thirteen. Seeing that movie is what started me on weight training. I still like watching it.
My plan is to have my son, who is now thirteen, sit down and watch it with me with the hope that it will inspire him as much as it did me.
My plan is to have my son, who is now thirteen, sit down and watch it with me with the hope that it will inspire him as much as it did me.
bsdgeek
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8and20 said:
overtraining is a totally abused term. it doesn't just mean you over did it in the gym. it could mean lack of sleep, vitamins, nutrients, proteins, or just about anything related to recovery. if you don't allow your body to recover, and you keep on training, you'll get sick, and possibly injured. this is overtraining.
do i believe you can overtrain, sure, everyone has their limits. do i believe that if you sleep the appropriate amount, supplement the appropriate amount, and eat enough that you could overtrain? no, if everything else is in check, i say hit it as fuckin hard as you physically can. but recovery is necessary to grow. and just to elaborate a little, periodization schedules allow for 'active' recovery, meaning you workout while recovering- ie light days. so, any program designed correctly, with diet and lifting schedule, it is almost impossible to overtrain- given everything else is in check.
there are known symptoms of overtraining, as monitored and documented by many sports medical doctors. below is a list of symptoms that indicate overtraining. it's taken from the text- NSCA's Essential's of Personal Training, pg 94, Earle & Baechle.
- Plateau followed by decrease of strength gains
- Sleep disturbances
- Decrease in lean body mass(when not dieting)
- Decreased appetite
- A cold that just won't go away
- Persistant flu-like symptoms
- Loss of interest in the training program
- Mood changes
- Excessive muscle soreness
again, overtraining would be hard to get to if everything else is in check, but it can happen. hope this helps.
theblondebomber
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"Crescorman"not sure about the spelling was the first GH available.it was made from the pituitary gland of cadavers.i first gained possesion of it in 1984 but it had been around for years.it was banned because people were getting disease from the"human grade gh"thats when synthetic was invented.if memory serves me it was causing brain stem deteriation.airsmith2k said:
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nutshairy said:
A good film indeed.
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