Proviron for libido

[Sassy69]

Or at least go to the doc, get the thyroid & other levels checked first before trying to self-medicate w/ short-term solutions. And on-going -- look at the situation and primarily the COMMUNICATION.

 

[MaryJonhson]

No, no

I'm not thinking about how to fix a unhealthy low libido. As it has been pointed out many times, there can be many reasons for, and a doc might be the way to go.

What I'm talking about is a way to spice up a healthy libido.

Although there are many way to do this (exercise, intimacy, moderate use of recreational drugs etc). I'm thinking about the possibilities for a "artificial hormone boost".

As you said nikkita, men and women can react differently to the sex hormones. But luckily for us differently doesn't have to mean they don't work.

There is one article about women, sex and hormones which I find very interesting, and I think you too will be pleasantly surprised :
article

In this article they use testosterone.

 

[nikkita]

Re: No, no

I'm not thinking about how to fix a unhealthy low libido. As it has been pointed out many times, there can be many reasons for, and a doc might be the way to go.

What I'm talking about is a way to spice up a healthy libido.

Although there are many way to do this (exercise, intimacy, moderate use of recreational drugs etc). I'm thinking about the possibilities for a "artificial hormone boost".

As you said nikkita, men and women can react differently to the sex hormones. But luckily for us differently doesn't have to mean they don't work.

There is one article about women, sex and hormones which I find very interesting, and I think you too will be pleasantly surprised :
article

In this article they use testosterone.

You need to consider that the study uses microdosis for a really short period of time.

On the other hand, it is necessary to understand the side effects testosterone can have on women even for short periods. So remember that most of these side effects testosterone produce on women are irreversible.

 

[MaryJonhson]

Yes Nikkita! I couldn't agree more with you!
That's what I'm here to discuss! Avoiding the side effects, but spicing up one's sex life, for a short period of time, every now and then.

In the study they used testosterone, which can be a really harmful way to go..

Correct me if I'm wrong, but compared to men, don't we have super low amounts of testosterone, most time in our menstrual cycle, and the testosterone gets up to only really low around ovulation. My theory is that we can handle having really low, for some time. And that would supercharge our sex drive.

Problem is how to stay on the safe side, and still get the desired effects.

I know at least that enlarged clitoris is a irreversible symptom. Acne can be reversed, but to use enough androgen therapy to get acne is not desired, not in my case anyway. when 25mg/day, is suggested, for 4-5 weeks, I suppose 4-5 weeks is enough to produce the changes in thighs and hips which the author writes about the drug being used for. Women most, don't want that, and I guess 1 week, on half the dose (or less?) would not be enough to produce those changes.

Does anyone know if there is a better way to go than tiny amounts of Proviron, which offers a better "sex drive/possibility for side effects" ratio?



Just an idea, I'd like to get a comment on:

Proviron does both heighten androgen levels, and reduce estrogen levels, may it be a good idea to eat estrogen (birth control pills) to reduce it's negative effects on estrogen?

 

[Sassy69]

I think the biggest caveat here is that there isn't a helluva lot of research on the use of testosterone for women's "libido enhancement" - what we do know is that there is an "average" response to the diff AAS that women use from anecdotal info. We don't know a lot about long term use because it hasnt' been tracked in a study and anecdotal info doesn't really provide much real info as there are so many other factors around what each andecdote involved if we were to talk about the whole range of things you are saying are "good" sides - leaning out, lower estrogen-related bodyfat levels, etc. -- so if the diet & training go to hell at some point , you can't really make accurate assessments of the results of the stuff as well as the maintenance of it. And then one layer below the "average" results / sides / response to AAS is the very individual bodychemistry & interaction w/ each AAS that is unique to each woman.

To that end -- if you want to experiment w/ it - that is your prerogative - but I don't know many experienced cyclers who would actually recommend running a cycle for the libido enhancement. And there's also the temptation to keep running a cycle if you wanted to keep whatever libido enhancement going.

I.e. - the only way to know anything about

 

[nikkita]

"Does anyone know if there is a better way to go than tiny amounts of Proviron, which offers a better "sex drive/possibility for side effects" ratio?"

If we want our bodies to function adequately (including sex drive) we have to make a balance of all our body needs. Meaning... improve your overall health. How? by eating a balanced diet, exercising and resting.

You may say "that's it? too easy?"

but... how many times have we all try to reduce stress and done it successfully?

smoke, drink, unbalanced diets, excessive workouts can all contribute for reducing our normal functions as women.

We may be tempted to go the easy way "exogenous substances" for libido, but it represents risk for young women; secondary effects are not only clitoral enlagement and acne.

If you think about it, having a balanced healthy life is not as easy as it sounds.

 

[The Shadow]

William Llewellyn writes in Anabolics 2006, that female bodybuilders should be cautious when using Proviron, and virilization symptoms can occour. He recommends a dose of 25mg/day, for no more than 4-5 weeks. And of course discontinued if symptoms occur.

Men can often use up to 100mg/day, and not get acne and other "virilization symptoms". The dose is often 50mg/day, and they get a high sex drive, despite using test supressing drugs like Deca. Some use 25mg/day, and is quite satisfied with that.

May I suggest 12.5mg/day, no more than a week each month.

The first post was made in 2004, so, geoboy, if you've tried any "Steroid libido enhancetrs" please let me know as I find this subject very interesting!

dont bump old threads please.


prov. isnt the best choice obviously.

try cialis...doesnt work on a hormonal level but does increase the arousal state once you "get started"

 

[jenscats5]

dont bump old threads please.


prov. isnt the best choice obviously.

try cialis...doesnt work on a hormonal level but does increase the arousal state once you "get started"

FYI - did nothing for me....