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Drunken_Weasel
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good or bad to have while dieting.. with a cardio and lifting plan?... just after workout.. good or bad? too many carbs for diet? or still all good?
Protein Shakes...
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DownUnder23
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PolishHammer1977
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My thoughts on the chalk
I always thought that protein was imperative. Whether your cutting or not, the the difference lyes within the carbs. Not the protein.
I always thought that protein was imperative. Whether your cutting or not, the the difference lyes within the carbs. Not the protein.
anadrolstack
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Related....
What is the best tasting protein shake ??
I don't care about getting 900 grams of protein per serving, I'd rather have athinner better tasting drink.
What is the best tasting protein shake ??
I don't care about getting 900 grams of protein per serving, I'd rather have athinner better tasting drink.
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distanced
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ZERO CARB ISOPURE
ONLY WAY TO GO WHEN CUTTING
GET THE VARIETY BOX
THEN STICK WITH YOUR FAVES
GIVE ME KARMA WHEN YOU SEE THAT I'M A GOD
HELL, I'VE TRAINED SUPERMODELS, I MUST KNOW SOMETHING
BUT SINCE EVERYONE HERE IS AN ASS CLOWN AND THINKS I'M LYING, DON'T BELEIVE ME AND KEEP BUYING GNC.....THAT'S THE WAY TO GO
ONLY WAY TO GO WHEN CUTTING
GET THE VARIETY BOX
THEN STICK WITH YOUR FAVES
GIVE ME KARMA WHEN YOU SEE THAT I'M A GOD
HELL, I'VE TRAINED SUPERMODELS, I MUST KNOW SOMETHING
BUT SINCE EVERYONE HERE IS AN ASS CLOWN AND THINKS I'M LYING, DON'T BELEIVE ME AND KEEP BUYING GNC.....THAT'S THE WAY TO GO
Bigsatan13
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DW, let me "AX" you a question. Did you sit down with a food counter and establish a baseline of your food intake in regards to total cals, protein, carbs and fats? This is important to find your starting point and adjust from there. If, the key word is if you need to supplement your protein then do it with a shake.
Drunken_Weasel
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Bigsatan13 said:
DW, let me "AX" you a question. Did you sit down with a food counter and establish a baseline of your food intake in regards to total cals, protein, carbs and fats? This is important to find your starting point and adjust from there. If, the key word is if you need to supplement your protein then do it with a shake.
No, I haven't.. but I know for SURE i don't get enough protein... when I eat at home solely (like im doing agian to get away from fast food).. there is not much here as far as protein, so most of my calories are coming from carbs/fat's.. but I am changing that.
Bigsatan13
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You need to do that. You will be surprised how much protein you get from whole foods. When I did this I was able to cut my shakes down to 12 a day!
Drunken_Weasel
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I just calculated my calories from today...
I've only had 1115 calories today..
Protein - 74g
carbs - 76g
fat -30g
sat fat - 11.5
This was from 2 sandwhiches.. thats all I have eaten today.. both turkey... both with lettuce.. one with white bread, one with wheat.. one with mayo, one dry..
and a protein shake, with skim milk.
I've only had 1115 calories today..
Protein - 74g
carbs - 76g
fat -30g
sat fat - 11.5
This was from 2 sandwhiches.. thats all I have eaten today.. both turkey... both with lettuce.. one with white bread, one with wheat.. one with mayo, one dry..
and a protein shake, with skim milk.
Bigsatan13
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You must be hungry! Well look at it this way, right now you are consuming enough protein to maintain\build muscle if you weighed 60 lbs.
Drunken_Weasel
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Well fuck.. more protein will mean more fat.. or more carbs.. what should I cap the carbs/fat's at for weight loss.. and what should my grams of protein be.. its 1g per pound right? so 220grams?
you can go to http://ww.fitday.com and start a free account and they won't spam you to death... there you can enter your food intake of rthe day and it calculates it out for you and you can also enter your own food labels for stuf they dont' have in the database
Drunken_Weasel
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Thanks saint.. that helps alot.
shows I have 41% protein, 29%fat, and 30%carbs out of 980 cal's.. which is probobly about right...
shows I have 41% protein, 29%fat, and 30%carbs out of 980 cal's.. which is probobly about right...
thebabydoc
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You also need to be eating every 3-4 hours. Protein should be roughly 1g for every lb of LEAN muscle weight. For you that should be near 150g/d.
The reason these guys are talking about dextrose/malto with your protein after a workout is that the sugar moiety facilitates the protein's flooding into the cells which is key after a workout when you want to supply your muscles with protein.
Oh, and Muscle Milk is the fuckin' BOMB! Try Cookies and Cream or Chocolate PB- a little heavy on the fat but you can mix half the amount with 1:2 parts regular whey, egg, etc... and it is like drinking a milkshake.
The reason these guys are talking about dextrose/malto with your protein after a workout is that the sugar moiety facilitates the protein's flooding into the cells which is key after a workout when you want to supply your muscles with protein.
Oh, and Muscle Milk is the fuckin' BOMB! Try Cookies and Cream or Chocolate PB- a little heavy on the fat but you can mix half the amount with 1:2 parts regular whey, egg, etc... and it is like drinking a milkshake.
Drunken_Weasel
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ok.. so around 150g of protein.. I can do that with one more meal.. what should my calories be at? trying to diet with atleast 4 days a week of moderate, to light cardio, and atleast 3 days of lifting?
thebabydoc
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With that much exercise, you can prolly go as high as 1800 cal/d and still lose 1-2 lbs/week. You just gotta stay 30-30-40 with each meal, not only for the whole day. Has to do with insulin release and the speed of absorption of each meal and its components.
Drunken_Weasel
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thebabydoc said:
Alright, thanks alot, makes a lot of sense.. just had my last meal (1 more sandwhich...) which puts me at 156grams of protein, and 1526 cals.. thats gonna be it for today...
oh.. its at :
fat:32%
carbs:26%
protein:42%.. hope thats close enough.. all 3 meals have been just about the same as far as ratio.. about 30:30:40.. about...
thebabydoc
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Problem will also be with the glycemic index of the carbs you are taking in (how fast they are converted into glucose by your body). White bread and other simple carbs like pasta, rice, and cereal suck balls because they cause spikes in your insulin levels- you need low glycemic index foods such as vegetables and fruits as well as the roughage and fiber they provide.
(Before you all jump on me here, we're talking diet here folks, not pure muscle-building)
(Before you all jump on me here, we're talking diet here folks, not pure muscle-building)
Drunken_Weasel
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thebabydoc said:
I understand that completely.. and the carbs im intaking are wheat bread, and oatmeal largly... I do aswell have apples, peaches, and banana's here I bought ....
thebabydoc said:
Dead on man.. thanks for understanding that.
thebabydoc
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Lose the bananas. Peaches, apples are great. Strawberries are also excellent. Stay away from papaya, mango, pineapple, bannana, and some say carrots (although I don't buy into that.)
Pears are also a bit high on the caloric side.
Pepers are excellent as is all salad; try to keep your fats low and from mediterranean sources (olive oil, nuts-almonds, macadamia, pecans)
Pears are also a bit high on the caloric side.
Pepers are excellent as is all salad; try to keep your fats low and from mediterranean sources (olive oil, nuts-almonds, macadamia, pecans)
notoriousQQ
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IMO optimum nutrition 100% whey protein
10 lbs = $50. Pretty good deal/ value
Vanilla mixes well for smoothies (1/2 bananna, 2 whole strawberries and about 6 blue berries with a 1/2 cup of crushed ice and 6-8 oz of oj) and goes well in either milk or even plain in water.
10 lbs = $50. Pretty good deal/ value
Vanilla mixes well for smoothies (1/2 bananna, 2 whole strawberries and about 6 blue berries with a 1/2 cup of crushed ice and 6-8 oz of oj) and goes well in either milk or even plain in water.
coldblue1955
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protein drinks are good for both cutting and bulking. you would drink more if bulking tho. what kind of protein drink do you try anyway?Drunken_Weasel said:
I'm a bigger fan of real food but as of late I've been eating a lot of protein shakes to keeps my cals and protein up. I've been incredibly busy lately and it really helps me make sure I'm getting enough of what I need when I don't have time to prep food. I use allthewhey unflavored, and cytosport evopro or muscle milk (depending on what my ratios p/f/c are in my diet).
