I'll throw in my two cents. Last summer, around August, I took a shot at using my first prohormone put out by Biotest called Androsol. They hyped the shit out of it. Anyway, I tried it for a two week cycle as recommended and didn't get any significant gains. A friend of mine would bet his left nut that it works great. Now, I didn't follow the supplement routine they recommend perfectly (skipped a day, dosed only once on a few days) so I decided recently to give it one last shot. I began using Androsol again last week Sunday, which means today is my ninth day. I decided not to weigh myself until this coming Sunday, just to be certain that there is no error. I also took measurements, and will use my skinfold calipers to determine if my fat went up or down. Visually so far, I can't say I notice a difference, and I think I'm just out 27 bux. I can't really give an honest assessment until my cycle is up, but so far I'm not optimistic. I'll fill you in a week from now.