Prohormone Routine Status

[Weapon X]

My natural bodyweight is around 135 pounds - that's what my weight reverts to when I stop stuffing myself like a pig (remember, I'm just 5' 5", too).
I'm stuffing myself and also working out hard, and my gains are happening.
How do you feel that I am killing my potential?? I really want to know to see if I need to reevaluate...

 

[SteadyGains]

A great combination is the Andro-Spray by Ergopharm combined with the Pyscho-Nordiol nasal spray. Apply 12 sprays of androdiol twice daily and take 2 sprays per nostril of the nasal spray three times daily. These supplements will work nicely if the training and nutrition are covered. The nasal can be harsh for certain people, but it seems to work well for most. Oatmeal and apples early in the day are excellent fiber sources and help with "regularity"!

 

[riskybiz007]

bro why are you killing your natural potential? Well lets just say you haven't reached it yet so you will not know what your "natural" potential is. Maybe it's just me... but i think these products were developed not for people to reach their natural potential but to help people climb over their plateu once they've hit their natural potential. You know, like hitting a brick wall then you could go ahead and take whatever you want to help you get past it. Am I the only person who thinks this is what you should do? In my book that is the logical thing to do.

 

[RealDeal]

riskybiz - I see your point and I agree with it...partially. To say he is "killing" his potential by using prohormones before he has plateaued out by using nothing but creatine, protein powder, flax & glutamine (i.e. no prohormones) is like saying someone who uses gear before they reach their natural plateau will not be able to make good gains with gear down the road. This may not be the best time for him go on a PH cycle, but this could probably be said for me and any number of people on PH or gear. Just because he, or anyone, uses PH before hitting a wall in their "natural" development does not mean that they will not experience gains, and potentially significant gains, down the road by using them again. That's why you cycle on prohormones & gear, and I'm sure you already know this because it's obvious you're no idiot.

Again, I do understand your point and as far as gear goes, I'd agree with you 100%. People certainly won't see the same gains w/PH as w/gear, but I can't agree that he's "killing" his potential.

 

[riskybiz007]

bro maybe he's not killing his potential, maybe he is. Who really knows? I know when my bro. thought about roids and was 17 i almost killed him. I told him he had enough testosterone and gh in him to grow very faster than most people (older people). Well that was almost 2 years ago and he went from 170 to 240 and is ripped at about 215. Those were the "natural" gains. Now at about 225 i don't really care if he wants to further his success by other means, but now i know he's possibly reached his potential. If he would have taken the roids or prohormones where would that have gotten him? Same results and left w/ no alternative to further himself? That's why i use supplements and gear once i've hit the brick wall and i have nowhere to go. But everybody is their own opinions on what they want to do and that's fine, this is just my thoughts...
peace

 

[RealDeal]

risky - in your bro's case that makes perfect sense seeing as he was 17 at the time. I don't think ANYONE under 21 (or even several years older) has neither business nor the need to use gear or prohormones. Just like you said, they have high natural hormone levels in their blood at that age range and using AS or PH could be detrimental.

For those of us that are a bit older, or a lot older, than 21 I don't think supplementation of PH will necessarilly kill potential down the road. I think each and every individual should look at where they've been, where they are, and where they want to go, their body type, traning methods, diet, etc. and determine for themselves if PH or AS are an intelligent option. Simply put: choose wisely.

These are our opinions and neither of us is wrong.

~ RD

 

[riskybiz007]

Hey i totally agree w/ your last statement. It depends on many factors as you pointed out. There's a lot of considerations... now lets see how this guy does w/ his ph cycle.

 

[playdo]

Why do people not taking steroids, but are taking creatine and pro hormones, insist on saying their natural. Steroids and creatine are both muscle enhancing, one just works better and is illegal.

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[riskybiz007]

i agree to an extent. Creatine is a natural substance in your body, but so is nortestosterone (deca's effects). Prohormones on the other hand are good at increasing the amount of estrogen in your body at alarming rates w/ minimal testosterone increase IMO and very short life of testosterone spikes. Only prohormone IMO worth taking are the 19 Nor's

 

[Weapon X]

Sucks.

Had to go to the doctor last Friday after being sick all week. I didn't let it stop my workouts, but maybe I should have.
I have been put on stronger (steroidal) asthma medication, antibiotics for the respiratory tract infection, and codeine to let me sleep, as the cough hasn't let me sleep all the way through the night for the last 3 weeks.
This all sucks, and I am majorly, majorly disheartened. And I'm pissed off. These setbacks keep happening and I try to work through them, but I can't now. Shit!


So this damn routine is finished for now. If I ever finally recover and can breathe again, I'll be going it again. I still have 15 pounds to gain, dammit!