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dred757

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Hey guys! I've got a friend who's a personal trainer and a very good I should say. The reason I'm writing this is get help for him to do a PH cycle. The problem is that while he's a very good trainer, he's a very skinny guy and other trainers in our area are guy that are on GEAR or cycling something! And just because their big and muscular as hell that some how means that their more knowledgeable about training than he does, and he's losing or not getting the amount of clients that they are just because of how they look!
His stats are 5'11 146 lbs needs to probably bulk and cut. Could u guys recommend a PH, epistong, katana ,etc and the proper PCT and or supps to do on cycle? Thanx in advance for all info fellas!!!
 
Well, your buddy definitely doesn't need to cut. And he needs to learn how to eat before messing with any hormones. Hormones or not, you need food to grow.

How old is he anyway?
 
Try something mild like epi or hdrol. You can get it easily off amazon.com as for pct ive always used reversitol v2 by iforce and never lost any of my gains. On cycle and post cycle you should take liver support like milk thistle. For cholestrol control take red yeast rice and to help with blood pressure use hawthorn berry. Drink lots of water and plenty of calories...alot of protein. Theres alot more to know so you should do your research as to not hurt yourself. Ive only briefly scratched the surface hope i could help good luck

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dred757 said:
Hey guys! I've got a friend who's a personal trainer and a very good I should say. The reason I'm writing this is get help for him to do a PH cycle. The problem is that while he's a very good trainer, he's a very skinny guy and other trainers in our area are guy that are on GEAR or cycling something! And just because their big and muscular as hell that some how means that their more knowledgeable about training than he does, and he's losing or not getting the amount of clients that they are just because of how they look!
His stats are 5'11 146 lbs needs to probably bulk and cut. Could u guys recommend a PH, epistong, katana ,etc and the proper PCT and or supps to do on cycle? Thanx in advance for all info fellas!!!
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Dude he's 5'11 146? He's boarderline annorexic. As a trainer I assume he doesn't know what he's doing. He doesn't need gear. He needs to eat.
 
SinisterUproar said:
Dude he's 5'11 146? He's boarderline annorexic. As a trainer I assume he doesn't know what he's doing. He doesn't need gear. He needs to eat.
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My fault guys i said he was 5'11, i misunderstood him he was at an indoor track meet with 1 of his athletes and there was lots of noise. He's 5'8!

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I call bullshit. Sorry bro, but I am a personal trainer myself, and a HUGE section of the studies required is nutrition.

Running any PH, DS, or AAS will do you no good without a proper diet and training setup.

Hell my 15 year old brother in law eats like a man, works out 3 days a week and is 5'9'' 165
 
masterkush81 said:
Forget pro hormones have him do a cycle of Test Masteron DBol That will stack him up nice!!!
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stack him up with what, tits and libido problems? Don't fucking tell a noob to run a stack like that, he obviously doesn't know what he's doing. By the way thats the most counter productive stack i've ever heard of..
 
bigbassturd said:
I call bullshit. Sorry bro, but I am a personal trainer myself, and a HUGE section of the studies required is nutrition.

Running any PH, DS, or AAS will do you no good without a proper diet and training setup.

Hell my 15 year old brother in law eats like a man, works out 3 days a week and is 5'9'' 165
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No bullshit here bro!!!! He's a full time teacher and part time trainer. Not gonna come on here and lie about anything, if that's the case i would've lied about his stats, to not be ridiculed! I stopped him from goin to the local supplement store spending hard earned money on bullshit and i told him to let me talk to bro's on here 1 st, for some REAL help, and info on Real supps/PH's that actually work!!

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5 8 and 145 pounds is skinny as a rail. I am 5 6 and 198.. the only way i could get down to the 140's is if i did cardio for an hour everyday and started eating bird food.

his problem is he doesn't know how to eat and he also does too much cardio.. which is fine.. not everyone is a bodybuilder type. but why would you stick your nose into his business and try to get him to use AAS? he obviously isn't a bodybuilder so let him be.

btw I was an endurance athlete in my mid to late 20's and have numerous awards so don't think i don't know what your buddy looks like, he has a fit/runner look to him I GET IT and ITS OKAY!!.. lean muscle is not the same as muscle mass. lean muscle does not weigh much, but large muscle mass does. thats the difference. bottom line is diet and training will dictate if you have lean muscle or if you have large muscle mass. if you want large muscle mass you gotta train big and you gotta eat big.

i hate to put a number on it but i would say your friend should get to 170 pounds before he even thinks about AAS. atleast then he would of learned how to train and eat.. then he can take shit to another level. but large muscle mass takes time to build. he isn't gonna magically turn into a 200 pound beast overnight
 
bigbassturd said:
Like I said, nothing will do him any good if he can't eat right...
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Ay bro i feel ya, the dude eats, now i can't attest to his diet verbatim, but i know hes been tryn and now he's frustrated! Hey there's exceptions to every rule .Hell maybe he has a fast metabolism i don't know and also he runs alot! So eat more is all we've covered is there a certain weight u should be b4 doing a PH? He not tryn to be a body builder !

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dred757 said:
Ay bro i feel ya, the dude eats, now i can't attest to his diet verbatim, but i know hes been tryn and now he's frustrated! Hey there's exceptions to every rule .Hell maybe he has a fast metabolism i don't know and also he runs alot! So eat more is all we've covered is there a certain weight u should be b4 doing a PH? He not tryn to be a body builder !

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as i said in my previous post this is his problem

doesn't surprise me that a PT wouldn't realize that all that running he is doing is preventing him from building large muscle mass

if you want to look like a runner then run
if you want to look like a bodybuilder than lift.

not sure why this is complicated
 
stevesmi said:
5 8 and 145 pounds is skinny as a rail. I am 5 6 and 198.. the only way i could get down to the 140's is if i did cardio for an hour everyday and started eating bird food.

his problem is he doesn't know how to eat and he also does too much cardio.. which is fine.. not everyone is a bodybuilder type. but why would you stick your nose into his business and try to get him to use AAS? he obviously isn't a bodybuilder so let him be.

btw I was an endurance athlete in my mid to late 20's and have numerous awards so don't think i don't know what your buddy looks like, he has a fit/runner look to him I GET IT and ITS OKAY!!.. lean muscle is not the same as muscle mass. lean muscle does not weigh much, but large muscle mass does. thats the difference. bottom line is diet and training will dictate if you have lean muscle or if you have large muscle mass. if you want large muscle mass you gotta train big and you gotta eat big.

i hate to put a number on it but i would say your friend should get to 170 pounds before he even thinks about AAS. atleast then he would of learned how to train and eat.. then he can take shit to another level. but large muscle mass takes time to build. he isn't gonna magically turn into a 200 pound beast overnight
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Thanks stevesmi, he is a runner, hes not tryn to be beast per say, but just a bigger and better him! Maybe 10 or 15 lbs of lean muscle!

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^^^ dude if the guy really wants help let him come on here so we can tell him what i just told you.

i wouldn't get too nosy into his business the way you are doing. i wouldn't appreciate if someone told me "steve you need to run more, you are too muscular blah blah blah" i actually have a 'friend' who gives me shit about being too big.. his view of fitness is being able to bicycle up a steep mountain, yet he can only bench 80 pounds. so essentially you are doing the same thing here
 
stevesmi said:
^^^ dude if the guy really wants help let him come on here so we can tell him what i just told you.

i wouldn't get too nosy into his business the way you are doing. i wouldn't appreciate if someone told me "steve you need to run more, you are too muscular blah blah blah" i actually have a 'friend' who gives me shit about being too big.. his view of fitness is being able to bicycle up a steep mountain, yet he can only bench 80 pounds. so essentially you are doing the same thing here
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Ok ill tell him, i just thought i could help him with good info from you guys, before he made a mistake with these supp stores pushing
fake ass PH's! But ill tell em!! Thanx for the info stevesmi!!
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