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Primordial Performance's new product -- EndoAmp

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Elite Members,

We are proud to announce the release of our latest product – EndoAmp.



EndoAmp is a natural phospholipid complex, designed to amplify testosterone production and muscle growth by reducing the stress hormone cortisol. EndoAmp is a brown “nutty” tasting powd*er which can be taken by itself, or mixed with your favorite protein shake.



The main ingredient in EndoAmp that accomplishes this is Phosphatidylserine (PS). PS is a natural phospholipid which helps reduce the stress hormone cortisol. By suppressing cortisol, EndoAmp can “amplify” testosterone production by increasing the testes sensitivity to LH and FSH stimulation. This makes EndoAmp the perfect supplement to include with other testosterone boosting supplements, such as Sustain Alpha.

EndoAmp can also enhance muscle growth by suppressing cortisol. By reducing the catabolic breakdown of muscle tissue, you can enhance the anabolic response and thus increase lean muscle mass. For more info, and full references, please visit the EndoAmp product info page -

http://www.primordialperformance.com/endo_amp.cfm

A month’s supply of 800mg/day of PS is only $47.99 – This makes EndoAmp one of the most affordable ways to supplement with PS compared to other capsule or pill based products.

Remember, with the coupon code “SPONSOR10” you can save 10% off your order. Plus if you order over $100 you get FREE 2-3 day shipping! (within the US only)

-Pp
 
For guys coming off heavy cycles you may wanna look into this product.
 
Some brief info on PS just so you guys know more about it and how it works
and see some studies sited


http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2004/jul2004_report_cortisol_02.htm

I think what is also interesting is the study below the PS
the one about dhea blocking cortisol levels was a pretty good read as well


BTW I am not being a product pusher by no means .
I use PS and doubt i'll buy any endoamp but it looks like a great product and the science shows the stuff works.
 
b_light said:
Looks like this will help with stress in general?
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Yes, it will help with general stress too. I take it on a daily basis.

Thanks for joining us chazk. I wonder, why not buy Endoamp to support your local sponsors eh? Dont we have a good price? :)

-Pp
 
You have sparked my interest.
 
seems like a good price, that shit ain't cheap. Also boosts mental clarity.
 
Eric when's the ideal time to take this? How about multiple doses?
 
swole said:
Eric when's the ideal time to take this? How about multiple doses?
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Cortisol levels are at their highest in the morning, and decline throughout the day. So, if you workout first thing in the morning, I'd say take this right away. Otherwise, I'd probably take it sometime in the late morning since I workout in the late afternoon to evening, and I take psyllium husk in the morning after breakfast (which you don't want to take around other supps).

Either way, I'd go with morning.

chazk said:
I use PS and doubt i'll buy any endoamp but it looks like a great product and the science shows the stuff works.
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PP's actually seems like a really great price. Less than half the price per serving of others I've seen.

As chazk has said, science has proven this product works. Studies have been done. I posted 2 PubMed studies in another thread that were specifically targeted for athletes. Here they are again:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/e...ez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/e...ez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
 
Seems like post workout would be another good time to take it.
 
Primordial Performance said:
Yes, it will help with general stress too. I take it on a daily basis.

Thanks for joining us chazk. I wonder, why not buy Endoamp to support your local sponsors eh? Dont we have a good price? :)

-Pp
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your price is excellent MG per MG for pure PS

but I use lecithin granuals to get a small does of the full range of Phosphatide compounds PS,PC,PI linolenic and linoleic
keep in mind I just use it in my morning vitamin/mineral/veggie drink for the circulation system it can help prevent artery hardening and help with brain focus.

But if I get the need to take 800mg of pure PS I would give your guys product a shot.
 
PS has been studied and used in treating ADD and Alzheimer's.

I know a lot of folks on here claim to have ADD...this may be a good alternative to medications with negative sides. I believe in those studies the doses are a lot less as well. This could be a very reasonable option.
 
Primordial Performance said:
Yeah, I personaly like to take 1/2 of the dose post workout, and 1/2 in the morning.

-Pp
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Seems like a good idea. Looks like that's what they did in one study.

"...this article focuses on the potential effects of PtdSer supplementation in humans during and following exercise."

I really hope peopel are taking the time to read those abstracts...

"...PtdSer 800 mg/day reduced the cortisol response to overtraining during weight training while improving feeling of well-being and decreasing perceived muscle soreness."

"PtdSer has also been shown to regulate a variety of neuroendocrine responses that include the release of acetylcholine, dopamine and noradrenaline. Additionally, PtdSer has been extensively demonstrated to influence tissue responses to inflammation. Finally, PtdSer has the potential to act as an effective antioxidant, especially in response to iron-mediated oxidation."

"Phosphatidylserine 800 mg/d for 10 days significantly blunted the ACTH and cortisol responses to physical exercise..."

Also, I'm not trying to pimp PP's product necessarily...it's just that I really believe in PS. I just happen to think that PP's PS is the best damn price I have seen for PS. I don't know how he's doing this so inexpensively, but at less than half the price per dose than the competition...I would strongly suggest everyone to give this a try and pick some up before the price goes up. I know I am.
 
Does this affect sperm production? Off cycle and trying to get wife pregnant.

Primordial Performance said:
Elite Members,

We are proud to announce the release of our latest product – EndoAmp.



EndoAmp is a natural phospholipid complex, designed to amplify testosterone production and muscle growth by reducing the stress hormone cortisol. EndoAmp is a brown “nutty” tasting powd*er which can be taken by itself, or mixed with your favorite protein shake.



The main ingredient in EndoAmp that accomplishes this is Phosphatidylserine (PS). PS is a natural phospholipid which helps reduce the stress hormone cortisol. By suppressing cortisol, EndoAmp can “amplify” testosterone production by increasing the testes sensitivity to LH and FSH stimulation. This makes EndoAmp the perfect supplement to include with other testosterone boosting supplements, such as Sustain Alpha.

EndoAmp can also enhance muscle growth by suppressing cortisol. By reducing the catabolic breakdown of muscle tissue, you can enhance the anabolic response and thus increase lean muscle mass. For more info, and full references, please visit the EndoAmp product info page -

http://www.primordialperformance.com/endo_amp.cfm

A month’s supply of 800mg/day of PS is only $47.99 – This makes EndoAmp one of the most affordable ways to supplement with PS compared to other capsule or pill based products.

Remember, with the coupon code “SPONSOR10” you can save 10% off your order. Plus if you order over $100 you get FREE 2-3 day shipping! (within the US only)

-Pp
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mmaboy said:
Does this affect sperm production? Off cycle and trying to get wife pregnant.
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I haven't been able to find anything showing that PS negatively effects sperm production.
 
Primordial Performance said:
If anything, it would increase sperm production by increasing natural testosterone production.

-Pp
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increasing testosterone? Do you have studies to prove this?

I wouldn't call PS an anabolic substance, rather an anti-catabolic, due to it's ability to inhibit exercise-induced increases in cortisol.

Let's not make Phosphatidylserine into something it's not. It can stand well enough on it's own for what it truly is, and people should use it for what it is.
 
so has anyone actually used this stuff....cause it just looks like alot of promo work from platnium members. I know alot ofpushy marketing goes on here....which is fair enough but some feedback from some people who have actually used it for a while would be great. how long has it been out?
 
HDPT said:
so has anyone actually used this stuff....cause it just looks like alot of promo work from platnium members. I know alot ofpushy marketing goes on here....which is fair enough but some feedback from some people who have actually used it for a while would be great. how long has it been out?
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i'll let you know, just ordered some.
 
HDPT said:
so has anyone actually used this stuff....cause it just looks like alot of promo work from platnium members. I know alot ofpushy marketing goes on here....which is fair enough but some feedback from some people who have actually used it for a while would be great. how long has it been out?
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Did you read the thread? Did you read the scientific studies I posted? PS has been around since the beginning of time. It's a naturally occurring substance found in every living organism, and every cell in your body. It was first isolated and studied in the 1940's. Due to most peoples' diets and high stress levels, your body is unable to produce a significant amount of PS. Thus you have people with Alzheimer's, ADD, ADHD, Depression, memory loss, etc. PS isn't a cure-all for these, but it has been shown to be effective in improving them.

PP is just yet another company marketing PS. You can find PS all over the place. If you want to research it and if you can find another source that has a less expensive cost per serving, please report back and let me know. I don't really care who I buy it from, it's just that PP has the best price I have found.
 
Effects of Soy Lecithin Phosphatidic Acid and Phosphatidylserine Complex (PAS) on the Endocrine and Psychological Responses to Mental Stress.

Stress: The International Journal on the Biology of Stress; Jun2004, Vol. 7 Issue 2, p119-126


Phosphatidylserine, derived from cow brains, has been shown previously to dampen the ACTH and cortisol response to physical stress. Further research investigated the influence of soy lecithin phosphatidylserine supplementation on mood and heart rate when faced with an acute stressor. In this study, we investigated the effects of soy lecithin phosphatidic acid and phosphalidylserine complex (PAS) supplementation on pituitary adrenal reactivity (ACTH, cortisol) and on the psychological response (Spielberger State Anxiety Inventory stress subscale) to a mental and emotional stressor. Four groups of 20 subjects were treated for three weeks with daily dosages of either 400 mg PAS. 600 mg PAS. 800 mg PAS. or placebo before exposure to the Trier Social Stress Test (TSST). Treatment with 400 mg PAS resulted in a pronounced blunting of both serum ACTH and cortisol, and salivary cortisol responses to the TSST, but did not affect heart rate. The effect was not seen with larger doses of PAS. With regard to the psychological response, 400 mg PAS seemed to exert a specific positive effect on emotional responses to the TSST. While the placebo group showed the expected increase in distress after the test, the group treated with 400 mg PAS showed decreased distress. These data provide initial evidence for a selective stress dampening effect of PAS on the pituitary-adrenal axis, suggesting the potential of PAS in the treatment of stress related disorders.
 
ceo said:
increasing testosterone? Do you have studies to prove this?

I wouldn't call PS an anabolic substance, rather an anti-catabolic, due to it's ability to inhibit exercise-induced increases in cortisol.

Let's not make Phosphatidylserine into something it's not. It can stand well enough on it's own for what it truly is, and people should use it for what it is.
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Protein retention (aka muscle growth) can be enhanced by either an anti-catabolic, or an anabolic. Essentially they are the same thing, and either function can sway the equilibrium.

As far as the testosterone boost from cortisol reduction, it’s quite simple. When cortisol goes up, testosterone goes down and vise versa. Cortisol breaks down the leydig cells, so if you can prevent this catabolic breakdown, then you can increase the testes sensitivity to LH, and thus testosterone secretion. PS also has some intricate benefits for increasing steroid-to-enzyme association and increasing 3b HSD in testes. All these reffs are in the write up

Here is one abstract -

11. HORMONAL EFFECTS OF PHOSPHATIDYLSERINE DURING 2-WKS OF INTENSE WEIGHT TRAINING
[Annual Meeting Abstracts]
Fahey, T. D.; Pearl, M.
California State University, Chico

A double-blind, crossover design study, measured the effects of 800 mg/d soybean derived phosphatidylserine (PS) or placebo (C) during 2-wk intense weight training on cortisol (CT), adrenocorticotropin hormone (ACTH), testosterone (TS), luteinizing hormone (LH), well-being (WB), and muscle soreness (MS) in 11 trained males. Subjects did 5 sets of 10 repetitions of 13 exercises, 4 times/wk for 2, 2-wk periods (3-wk recovery). Venous blood was sampled 6 mornings (T1-T6) and 15-min following the 8th work-out (T7). WB and MS were estimated using 10-point scales. CT was the same in PS and C in T1-T6 but decreased between T6 and T7 in PS (15.6 ± 1.7 to 10.0±0.9μg/dL, mean±SEM, P<0.05) but not in C. ACTH did not change in PS in T1-T7 but increased in C between T4 and T5-7 by over 50%. TS increased in PS between T1 (3.3±0.3 ng/mL) and T3 (4.4±0.5 ng/mL) and fell in both treatments between T3 and T7 (3.3±0.3 ng/mL, PS; 3.3±0.4, C). LH increased significantly between T1 (1.5±0.1 mlU/mL) and T6(2.2±0.3 mlU/mL) in PS but did not change in C. WB was greater in P than C in T2-T6. In C, WB at T3 was markedly depressed (4.9±0.8). MS increased in both treatments and was greater in C than PS at T2 (61%) and T5(55%). Cortisol decreased in PS after exercise, possibly by depressing ACTH. PS attenuated the negative effects of intense weight training on perception of well-being and muscle soreness
 
Primordial Performance said:
Protein retention (aka muscle growth) can be enhanced by either an anti-catabolic, or an anabolic. Essentially they are the same thing, and either function can sway the equilibrium.

As far as the testosterone boost from cortisol reduction, it’s quite simple. When cortisol goes up, testosterone goes down and vise versa. Cortisol breaks down the leydig cells, so if you can prevent this catabolic breakdown, then you can increase the testes sensitivity to LH, and thus testosterone secretion. PS also has some intricate benefits for increasing steroid-to-enzyme association and increasing 3b HSD in testes. All these reffs are in the write up

Here is one abstract -

11. HORMONAL EFFECTS OF PHOSPHATIDYLSERINE DURING 2-WKS OF INTENSE WEIGHT TRAINING
[Annual Meeting Abstracts]
Fahey, T. D.; Pearl, M.
California State University, Chico

A double-blind, crossover design study, measured the effects of 800 mg/d soybean derived phosphatidylserine (PS) or placebo (C) during 2-wk intense weight training on cortisol (CT), adrenocorticotropin hormone (ACTH), testosterone (TS), luteinizing hormone (LH), well-being (WB), and muscle soreness (MS) in 11 trained males. Subjects did 5 sets of 10 repetitions of 13 exercises, 4 times/wk for 2, 2-wk periods (3-wk recovery). Venous blood was sampled 6 mornings (T1-T6) and 15-min following the 8th work-out (T7). WB and MS were estimated using 10-point scales. CT was the same in PS and C in T1-T6 but decreased between T6 and T7 in PS (15.6 ± 1.7 to 10.0±0.9μg/dL, mean±SEM, P<0.05) but not in C. ACTH did not change in PS in T1-T7 but increased in C between T4 and T5-7 by over 50%. TS increased in PS between T1 (3.3±0.3 ng/mL) and T3 (4.4±0.5 ng/mL) and fell in both treatments between T3 and T7 (3.3±0.3 ng/mL, PS; 3.3±0.4, C). LH increased significantly between T1 (1.5±0.1 mlU/mL) and T6(2.2±0.3 mlU/mL) in PS but did not change in C. WB was greater in P than C in T2-T6. In C, WB at T3 was markedly depressed (4.9±0.8). MS increased in both treatments and was greater in C than PS at T2 (61%) and T5(55%). Cortisol decreased in PS after exercise, possibly by depressing ACTH. PS attenuated the negative effects of intense weight training on perception of well-being and muscle soreness
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Interesting. In this study, testosterone had a small increase during the first 3 weeks, then fell back. Cortisol didn't decrease until after week 6. Doesn't really fit with the indirect result we would expect of testosterone levels increasing due to cortisol levels decreasing.

Other studies have shown however, that under normal conditions, after physical exercise, cortisol levels increase significantly, Total testosterone decreases, but Free testosterone increases significantly (which is good). I wonder if the study you posted was testing free or total test? I'd be more interested in free test levels. Bottom line is PS can only help!

But, probably the most significant thing in the study you posted to our babymaking poster was that LH had a significant increase throughout the study! Makes sense. PS increases sense of well being and reduces stress...just the right environment to help make babies. Better get the wife on it too!!
 
The free shipping is not showing up with the "SPONSOR10" code for my order over $100. Am I doing something wrong?
 
I'm in school now and need the memory boosting brain powering effects; increases test also, holy shoot this is like an enhance all supp lol lol
 
PP what about what CEO said...about the cortisol not matching up with the test and how the test is supposed to increase when the cortisol decreases?
 
hehateme000 said:
PP what about what CEO said...about the cortisol not matching up with the test and how the test is supposed to increase when the cortisol decreases?
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Are you referring the Testosterone:cortisol ratio? Because testosterone generally does rise when cortisol is reduced, and this is a good thing.

-Pp
 
ceo said:
Interesting. In this study, testosterone had a small increase during the first 3 weeks, then fell back. Cortisol didn't decrease until after week 6. Doesn't really fit with the indirect result we would expect of testosterone levels increasing due to cortisol levels decreasing.
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How when tesosterone increases, cortisol decreases but in that study cortisol dropped at week 6, and test went up week 1-3.
 
hehateme000 said:
How when tesosterone increases, cortisol decreases but in that study cortisol dropped at week 6, and test went up week 1-3.
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Which study are you referring to?

PS is going to help raise testosterone by reducing cortisol, however if your under significant training stress then the PS will at least help minimize the cortisol rise, which will at least minimize the reduction in testosterone generally associated with over-training.

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
Protein retention (aka muscle growth) can be enhanced by either an anti-catabolic, or an anabolic. Essentially they are the same thing, and either function can sway the equilibrium.

As far as the testosterone boost from cortisol reduction, it’s quite simple. When cortisol goes up, testosterone goes down and vise versa. Cortisol breaks down the leydig cells, so if you can prevent this catabolic breakdown, then you can increase the testes sensitivity to LH, and thus testosterone secretion. PS also has some intricate benefits for increasing steroid-to-enzyme association and increasing 3b HSD in testes. All these reffs are in the write up

Here is one abstract -

11. HORMONAL EFFECTS OF PHOSPHATIDYLSERINE DURING 2-WKS OF INTENSE WEIGHT TRAINING
[Annual Meeting Abstracts]
Fahey, T. D.; Pearl, M.
California State University, Chico

A double-blind, crossover design study, measured the effects of 800 mg/d soybean derived phosphatidylserine (PS) or placebo (C) during 2-wk intense weight training on cortisol (CT), adrenocorticotropin hormone (ACTH), testosterone (TS), luteinizing hormone (LH), well-being (WB), and muscle soreness (MS) in 11 trained males. Subjects did 5 sets of 10 repetitions of 13 exercises, 4 times/wk for 2, 2-wk periods (3-wk recovery). Venous blood was sampled 6 mornings (T1-T6) and 15-min following the 8th work-out (T7). WB and MS were estimated using 10-point scales. CT was the same in PS and C in T1-T6 but decreased between T6 and T7 in PS (15.6 ± 1.7 to 10.0±0.9μg/dL, mean±SEM, P<0.05) but not in C. ACTH did not change in PS in T1-T7 but increased in C between T4 and T5-7 by over 50%. TS increased in PS between T1 (3.3±0.3 ng/mL) and T3 (4.4±0.5 ng/mL) and fell in both treatments between T3 and T7 (3.3±0.3 ng/mL, PS; 3.3±0.4, C). LH increased significantly between T1 (1.5±0.1 mlU/mL) and T6(2.2±0.3 mlU/mL) in PS but did not change in C. WB was greater in P than C in T2-T6. In C, WB at T3 was markedly depressed (4.9±0.8). MS increased in both treatments and was greater in C than PS at T2 (61%) and T5(55%). Cortisol decreased in PS after exercise, possibly by depressing ACTH. PS attenuated the negative effects of intense weight training on perception of well-being and muscle soreness
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This one. ^^^
 
Primordial Performance said:
Right, PS is going to lend to a better overall cortiol/testosterone ratio. As in, you're going to maintain lower levels of cortisol and higher levels of testosterone with PS.

-Pp
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I have been using it and its great.
 
awesome PP and needto, thx again. Im gonna be kickstarting my test/deca cycle with dbol and derma!!
 
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