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Preparing for 1st cycle... autoinject ok?

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metalcavy87

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Hey folks, I'm preparing to do my first cycle. Just gonna run Testosterone enanthate (abuhrain pharm, iran brand) at 500mg/wk for 8 weeks to see how my body reacts to it. I also have some letrozole on hand in case of gynecomastia (MAYBE run .25mg/daily if needed). For PCT, I was going to do Clomid 100mg/ed/3 wks, and Nolvadex 30mg/day 1st week, 20mg/day 2nd week, and 10mg/day 3rd week. Aiming to gain a solid 20 lbs of muscle, maybe more if possible.

Anyways, on to my question.

I'm sorta uncomfortable with the thought of injecting, but I've lately been psyching myself up and preparing for it. When I was at the pharmacy buying sterile needles, I came across an automatic injection device that I think would be cool to use if I could (and largely preclude my squeemishness). My question is this: are auto-injectors usable in injecting steroids? And also, does anyone have any experience with them?

I know its a good idea to aspirate before injection to make sure you hit muscle, but I figure that through trial and error I might be able to find a calibration that gets muscle every time, making it just a matter of pointing and aiming. Any comments?
 
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Not really sure. I would say its probably not a good idea though. You can probably adjust the injection depth but who knows if it would be deep enough. Also if you hit a vein you wouldn't be able to stop the injection. I dunno. There are probably a few more reasons not to use it. I think plain old simple injections would be best.
 
To many variables just keep it simple youll be ok its easyer than you
think , on your PCT i noticed you are going with 100ed clomid might
be over kill and sides start at high mgs 50 ed works well for me nolva
should cool .
Brad.
 
holy ghost said:
dont be a baby now.

anabolic androgenic steroids is an adult decision

be an adult.
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Thanks a lot asshole... haha...


Anyways, thanks for the input guys. Was just curious. I think I'll stick with a regular old injection because what I've read about abscesses and shit scares the hell out of me. I'd rather have a little bit of squeemishness and do it right, rather than land me in the hospital.

I'll let you all know how it goes.

To many variables just keep it simple youll be ok its easyer than you
think , on your PCT i noticed you are going with 100ed clomid might
be over kill and sides start at high mgs 50 ed works well for me Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate -
should cool .
Brad.
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Solid advice, I will keep this in mind. Thanks bud.
 
no,auto inject isn't ok at all you need to fucking aspirate before each injection.read about proper injection techniques and educate yourself well before you do anything.

here's some information for you
http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/article-glute-injection.asp

http://www.siteinjections.com/index3.htm

500mgs a week is pretty high for a first cycle

I recommend you try 250mgs a week ran for 10 to 12 weeks instead,that way the sides will be less and post cycle therapy will be much easier.you don't even know how you're going to respond to gear in general.clomid ran @100mgs is going to give you side effects from hell like pms syndrome and most likely visual disturbances = tracers and shit.

I would start your post cycle therapy 10.5 days after your last injection of testosterone.if you do it at 250mgs a week you could use dermacrine sustain ran for an entire month,and ditch the clomid and novladex entirely.

whatever your choices best of luck to you
 
Just keep the injection site clean and ASPIRATE. I'm doing my first cycle now and I'm shooting E3D. No prob's at all....
 
hyp1 said:
no,auto inject isn't ok at all you need to fucking aspirate before each injection.read about proper injection techniques and educate yourself well before you do anything.

here's some information for you
http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/article-glute-injection.asp

http://www.siteinjections.com/index3.htm

500mgs a week is pretty high for a first cycle

I recommend you try 250mgs a week ran for 10 to 12 weeks instead,that way the sides will be less and post cycle therapy will be much easier.you don't even know how you're going to respond to gear in general.clomid ran @100mgs is going to give you side effects from hell like pms syndrome and most likely visual disturbances = tracers and shit.

I would start your post cycle therapy 10.5 days after your last injection of testosterone.if you do it at 250mgs a week you could use dermacrine sustain ran for an entire month,and ditch the clomid and novladex entirely.

whatever your choices best of luck to you
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As usual HYPL is dead on.

Auto injects are for sub-q injections of adrenalin or insulin. They won't work.

Also, you need some cycle tweaking. Too much clomid, do the adex eod at that test dose.

Also - like said above, spread the cycle longer at lower doses. You'll get more out of it.
 
Thanks a lot for your feedback guys. I really appreciate it. I'm gonna just stick with natural injections, I think the need for aspiration outweights my squeemishness with a needle. Meh. Gonna start Monday after next regardless.

Anyways, I'll be incorporating a lot of the advice you guys have posted into my cycle. I had thought 250mg/wk of testosterone enanthate was rather conservative, but I suppose not. Oh well, guess I'll hold onto the extra amps for another cycle. Any comments on the new one below? Just a newbie "stack" if you can call it that.

CYCLE:

Testosterone enanthate 250mg/wk for 10 weeks (12 maybe? I have enough for 16 weeks at 250mg/wk but I don't want to do it for that long.)
- Noting that enanthate is a long-acting ester, would it be appropriate to inject only once weekly? Or would it be more prudent to inject 125mg twice a week, a few days apart?


GYNECOMASTIA/WATER RETENTION:

I have plenty of letrozole on hand. .25-.5mg/eod if gynecomastia begins to rear its ugly head. Water retention's not so bad I guess.


PCT

I've been looking into Dermacrine Sustain by Primordial per some advice. Would this stuff really take the place of both clomid and nolvadex?

Failing that, here's the new plan with the traditional meds:

Nolvadex 30mg/ed/1st wk, 20mg/ed/2nd wk, 10mg/ed/3rd wk (or perhaps eod? guess it would work the same way except skipping every other day?)
Clomid 50mg/ed/3 wks


Am I getting closer? Thanks again for any advice. Later guys!
 
listen ... my first cycle ( which just ended) was 250mg/week. with proper diet and training its more than enough... you get great gains without outrageous side effects... i'm in the process of taking 50mg clomid ED and 20mg nolv ED
seems to be working fine i'd say go with 250 mg
 
I agree. For a first-time user, the stack should be kept simple with conservative doses, since your body isn't used to AAS. I'll bet you make serious gains with the 250 mg of test e each week. And, no, don't use an auto-inject device. I doubt it could be as effective or simple as conventional needles.
 
metalcavy87 said:
Thanks a lot for your feedback guys. I really appreciate it. I'm gonna just stick with natural injections, I think the need for aspiration outweights my squeemishness with a needle.

Anyways, I'll be incorporating a lot of the advice you guys have posted into my cycle. I had thought 250mg/wk of testosterone enanthate was rather conservative, but I suppose not.

CYCLE:

Testosterone enanthate 250mg/wk for 10 weeks (12 maybe? I have enough for 16 weeks at 250mg/wk but I don't want to do it for that long.)
- Noting that enanthate is a long-acting ester, would it be appropriate to inject only once weekly? Or would it be more prudent to inject 125mg twice a week, a few days apart?

PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy -

I've been looking into Dermacrine Sustain by Primordial per some advice. Would this stuff really take the place of both clomid and nolvadex?
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great planning bro,glad you've decided to run 250mgs week for your first cycle.your sides will be much less and post cycle therapy will be a lot easier too.if you eat correctly and train hard you will be amazed at how much you will grow and gain in strength and size.

10.5 days after your last testosterone injection start the dermacrine sustain and run it for an entire month.keep an eye on your nuts and if they start to shrink (which I doubt they will at that low of a dose)immediately start HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - injections @500ius.

best of luck to you :)
 
TM248 said:
listen ... my first cycle ( which just ended) was 250mg/week. with proper diet and training its more than enough... you get great gains without outrageous side effects... i'm in the process of taking 50mg clomid ED and 20mg nolv ED
seems to be working fine i'd say go with 250 mg
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Imagine that - pretty sound advice from a noobie. Nice change. My only comment is you're probably doing more p.ct than you need. I'd half the doses of both personally.
 
mattdan said:
Imagine that - pretty sound advice from a noobie. Nice change. My only comment is you're probably doing more p.ct than you need. I'd half the doses of both personally.
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Yup, I'm running 325 mg's/ week E3D and it's more than enough. Thanks to bro's like Hyp, Nelson, Mac and Needto....
 
beenieman said:
Yup, I'm running 325 mg's/ week E3D and it's more than enough. Thanks to bro's like Hyp, Nelson, Mac and Needto....
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Correction.... My dumb ass can't count... I'm doing over 400 mg's a week... Fuck it....
 
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