Post gear History

[sofakingdel]

There's alot of people that know, or seem to know, alot about a wide variety of gear. I admit I have a limited knowledge because I rarely venture away from my bread and butter Test E/EQ all in all I have only used:
Dbol
EQ
Test E
Tren E
Tren Hex
Winny
and pct or accessories include
AIFM
Clomid
Clen
This is my gear history feel free to post your own

 

[guicedguido]

test e test cyp sust omnadren enathate,, deca npp masteron primo eq clen salumbutomol( albuterol) ECA which isn't anything but it is repeatedly posted. nolva HCG cloid. and honestly would need a lot of advice

 

[sofakingdel]

bump

 

[Dr. JK]

Mainly:
Winny
EQ
Tren
Test Prop

Have also used but not often
Test E
Deca
Halo

PCT
HCG
Clomid

 

[paradox]

I lack extensive knowledge when it comes to HGH, IGF-1, & thyroid meds

 

[sofakingdel]

lets try this again

 

[Ross]

lets try this again

Testosterone Enanthate
Testosterone Propionate
Testosterone Suspension
Sustanon
Dianabol
Equipoise
Primobolan Ace(Oral)
Primobolan Enanthate
Masteron
Proviron
Anavar
Turinabol
Oral Winstrol
Injectable Winstrol
Halotestin
Closetbol
4-Androstenediol
Dihydroboldenone
Desoxymethyltestosterone
Superdrol....

Arimidex
Aromasin
Nolvadex
Clomid
HCG
Cabergoline
B-12
Albuterol


No Deca, No Tren, No Drol.

I THINK that about covers it

 

[sofakingdel]

Damn son you've had more juice than the Kool-Aid man himself. you my-man are truly a vet

 

[tfuray]

For those that have tried clen and albuterol. What did you like better?

 

[Nelson Montana]

cyp
enth
prop
suspension
sustanon
dbol
primo ace
primo depot
var
winny
deca
andriol
Mast
Proviron
clomid
nolva
teslac
arimidex
cyclofenil
cytolmel
synthroid
armour thyroid
triancana
aldactone
HGH
HCG
GHB
clen
valium
A couple of others I'm sure I've forgotten


Made a vow from the start to...

Never use vet gear

Never use anything that isn't pharma grade

Never use more then 3 compounds at a time

Never stay on longer than 2 months

Never exceed a total of 750 mgs

Never use excessively toxic compounds such as Halo or Drol

Doing it this way made me much more attuned to the effects of each individual drug. How can you tell what's doing what when you take a bunch of stuff -- take it for a long time --mix things up -- are not sure if the dosages are accurate --and you don't even know if what you're getting is real?

This is why arguments over cyp and enth still exists. People comare IP to BD. It's the innaccurate dosing that makes the difference. People compare var with winny yet don't realize they've been sold the same stuff under a different name. And it's neither var OR winny!

Knowing what I know now I'd never use half of the stuff on that list.

If everyone just used Primo and d-bol and the right supplements the world would be a better place.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

Testosterone Enanthate
Testosterone Cypionate
Testosterone Phenylpropionate
Testosterone Propionate
Testosterone Suspension
Testosterone Undecanoate
Sustanon
Anadrol
Methyltestosterone
Dianabol
Equipoise
Boldenone Base
Primobolan
Masteron
Masteron Enanthate
Deca
Nandrolone Phenylpropionate
Trenbolone Acetate
Trenbolone Enanthate
Proviron
Sten
Anavar
Winstrol
Halotestin

Arimidex
Aromasin
Letrozole
Nolvadex
Clomid
HCG
Finasteride
Cyclofenil

Clenbuterol
Albuterol

Insulin
DNP
Metformin
Lr3IGF-1
EPO
MGF

Synthroid
Cytomel

Hydergene
Periactim

 

[glover]

Most all of the different Test's
dbol
var
winny
deca
anadrol
npp
eq
nolva
hcg

 

[Anthony Roberts]

More important than what we've used, is what we would still use, knowing what we would. Right now I just use what I get for my HRT 'script, but even if I could use anything (and keep in mind, I could get whatever I want for free), I'd probably still only use Testosterone, Masteron (or primo), and Anavar (or Proviron). That plus either IGF or Gh is all I'd really ever need for my (reasonably conservative) goals.

 

[Nelson Montana]

More important than what we've used, is what we would still use, knowing what we would. Right now I just use what I get for my HRT 'script, but even if I could use anything (and keep in mind, I could get whatever I want for free), I'd probably still only use Testosterone, Masteron (or primo), and Anavar (or Proviron). That plus either IGF or Gh is all I'd really ever need for my (reasonably conservative) goals.

Interesting. I agree, it's all about what you've learned, not just what you've done.

Mast and proviron has its place but I have no use for it now.

There are a few compounds that are superior and there's "everything else." All the debate over this and that and cutters and bulkers and 6 weekers and 20 weekers and blah, blah, blah,-- it's so senseless. But it will go on forever.

One good anabolic. One good androgen. That's all you need.

 

[rdel85]

More important than what we've used, is what we would still use, knowing what we would. Right now I just use what I get for my HRT 'script, but even if I could use anything (and keep in mind, I could get whatever I want for free), I'd probably still only use Testosterone, Masteron (or primo), and Anavar (or Proviron). That plus either IGF or Gh is all I'd really ever need for my (reasonably conservative) goals.

Proviron has an effect similliar to anavar?

 

[sofakingdel]

Interesting. I agree, it's all about what you've learned, not just what you've done. There are a few compounds that are superior and there's "everything else." All the debate over this and that and cutters and bulkers and 6 weekers and 20 weekers and blah, blah, blah,-- it's so senseless. But it will go on forever.

One good anabolic. One good androgen. That's all you need.

More important than what we've used, is what we would still use, knowing what we would. Right now I just use what I get for my HRT 'script, but even if I could use anything (and keep in mind, I could get whatever I want for free), I'd probably still only use Testosterone, Masteron (or primo), and Anavar (or Proviron). That plus either IGF or Gh is all I'd really ever need for my (reasonably conservative) goals.

Good shit ya'll, with these types of revalations everyone can see who the true vets are and where they have been. thanks for posting hopefully more will do the same

 

[Anthony Roberts]

Proviron has an effect similliar to anavar?

Not really. They're both DHT-derived orals, though, and I'd use one or the other, most likely.

 

[Ross]

For those that have tried clen and albuterol. What did you like better?

Albuterol is useless for burning fat.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

For those that have tried clen and albuterol. What did you like better?

I liked it more:

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/steroid-profiles/albuterol.htm

And most of the fitness/figure girls I know like it more also.

 

[mr.nitro]

my history is as followes:

testosterone enthanate
testosterone prop.
d-bol
eq
deca
tren a.
tren e.
1gf-1
winny
dnp
clen
clomid
nolvadex
hcg
eca

things id like to try someday:
anadrol
hgh
primo
tbol
igf-1 (id like to try it again, my first run was short and low dose, and my timing was poor)

 

[Anthony Roberts]

One thing that I never tried (because of cost) in the past was hGH. I just couldn't see spending that much on something. Now that I got a 'script from my doc, I'll be trying it out.

 

[lifthard2005]

test e
test c
test prop
sustanon
supersustann
cytomel (t3)
clen
test suspension
tren a
tren e
tri-tren
var
tbol
dbol
var
drol
halo
winny
masteron
deca
npp
eq
hcg
clomid
nolva
igf-lr3
proviron
androil

i think thats it.

 

[Stryker1992]

There's alot of people that know, or seem to know, alot about a wide variety of gear. I admit I have a limited knowledge because I rarely venture away from my bread and butter Test E/EQ all in all I have only used:
Dbol
EQ
Test E
Tren E
Tren Hex
Winny
and pct or accessories include
AIFM
Clomid
Clen
This is my gear history feel free to post your own

I do not use steroids but a friend of mine has used:

deca
winny tabs
dbol
tbol
var
primo
test e (A LOT)
sustanon

hcg
clen
clomid
nolva

 

[tfuray]

ROSS- You didn't get any results w/ ALB?

 

[Ross]

ROSS- You didn't get any results w/ ALB?

None.

I think because the half-life is too short and lack of systemic effect.

 

[tfuray]

That worthless for you huh,sux. Oh well thanks brotha. Oh and did u notice any negatives?

 

[Nelson Montana]

One thing that I never tried (because of cost) in the past was hGH. I just couldn't see spending that much on something. Now that I got a 'script from my doc, I'll be trying it out.

I've been saying for years that HGH is the most overrated compound in bodybuilding. Everybody always says it only works well with a lot of testosterone. Well, duh. But what does it do by itself? I found out.

HGH will help burn carbs very quickly. That can help in getting lean but I hated the feeling -- a sort of hypogylcemic wooziness. I found no increase in size or strength and no increase in skin elasticity. I did have a slight increase in energy. And yes, it was legit with a script.

HGH also has more serious side effects than people realize. Long term use can exasperate the growth of cancer cells.

Of course if you're a pro and you need everything you can get, HGH might as well be thrown into the mix. But for most guys, the money can be much better spent elsewhere.

 

[Varga]

I lack extensive knowledge when it comes to HGH, IGF-1, & thyroid meds

Honestly, it is not something recreational user should get into.....Lots of risks and sides

 

[Ross]

I have seen the Testosterone, HGH, Slin combo TRANSFORM ordinary bodybuilders into CHAMPIONS.

However, they also LOOK much different after all said and done. Bigger waists, larger heads and craniofacial features, increased bone density, and WORST OF ALL, these GIANT, ROPEY, SNAKE-LIKE VEINS that were NOT pleasant looking at all; and this is coming from a naturally vascular person.

Bottom line, HGH makes EVERYTHING grow; craniofacial features, bones, ligaments, CELLS--even cancer cells and breast cells as Nelson points out.

Does HGH + Slin + Testosterone work MIRACLES? YES, they do. I have seen DOZENS make transformations that still BAFFLE ME. But is it WORTH IT? In my opinion, for the LOOK I desire, absolutely unequivocally NO.

 

[Nelson Montana]

I have seen the Testosterone, HGH, Slin combo TRANSFORM ordinary bodybuilders into CHAMPIONS.

However, they also LOOK much different after all said and done. Bigger waists, larger heads and craniofacial features, increased bone density, and WORST OF ALL, these GIANT, ROPEY, SNAKE-LIKE VEINS that were NOT pleasant looking at all; and this is coming from a naturally vascular person.

Bottom line, HGH makes EVERYTHING grow; craniofacial features, bones, ligaments, CELLS--even cancer cells and breast cells as Nelson points out.

Does HGH + Slin + Testosterone work MIRACLES? YES, they do. I have seen DOZENS make transformations that still BAFFLE ME. But is it WORTH IT? In my opnion, for the LOOK I desire, absolutely unequivocally NO.

I'd say the main difference between the guys now and 20 years ago is slin. I think more than anything, it's the slin which has created the increase in size along with the big bellies.

I haven't really noticed major bone structure differences from HGH and I'd imagine guys would be taking outrageous amounts if it worked well. Ligaments, yes. Who knows what it's doing there.

Slin blows you up. But as Ross said, it's not a better look, just bigger. I would never take it and think its insane.

 

[sofakingdel]

I'd say the main difference between the guys now and 20 years ago is slin. I think more than anything, it's the slin which has created the increase in size along with the big bellies.

I haven't really noticed major bone structure differences from HGH and I'd imagine guys would be taking outrageous amounts if it worked well. Ligaments, yes. Who knows what it's doing there.

Slin blows you up. But as Ross said, it's not a better look, just bigger. I would never take it and think its insane.

what percentage of todays bodybuilders use that combo today. is it mostly the huge monsterous guys?

 

[nsashbl01]

I'd say the main difference between the guys now and 20 years ago is slin. I think more than anything, it's the slin which has created the increase in size along with the big bellies.

I haven't really noticed major bone structure differences from HGH and I'd imagine guys would be taking outrageous amounts if it worked well. Ligaments, yes. Who knows what it's doing there.

Slin blows you up. But as Ross said, it's not a better look, just bigger. I would never take it and think its insane.

Slin and HGH saved my mom's leg. She's 69 years old and has been a Type 1 diabetic for over 30 years. Last year she broke her leg and had complications and almost lost it. I got involved with my hrt doc and started her on gh. Saved her leg, docs couldn't believe it. Her slin use, well, thats to keep her alive. But seriously, hgh saved her leg that docs said she'd loose. Best investment I ever made!

 

[digit0x]

cyp




Made a vow from the start to...


Never use more then 3 compounds at a time

Never stay on longer than 2 months

Never exceed a total of 750 mgs
place.

8 weeks max?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Slin and HGH saved my mom's leg. She's 69 years old and has been a Type 1 diabetic for over 30 years. Last year she broke her leg and had complications and almost lost it. I got involved with my hrt doc and started her on gh. Saved her leg, docs couldn't believe it. Her slin use, well, thats to keep her alive. But seriously, hgh saved her leg that docs said she'd loose. Best investment I ever made!

But dude, as glad as I am that it was available to help, that has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Pennicillin, Cipro, adrenaline and barbituates saves lives too. I wouldn't recommend using them in a cycle.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

what percentage of todays bodybuilders use that combo today. is it mostly the huge monsterous guys?

Help with designing a peptide cycle (hGH/IGF/MGF/Slin) is the most common request I get from IFBB (male) professionals right now.

The more genetically gifted women in Figure/Fitness try to use a bit more GH and a bit less AAS if they can afford it, to avoid androgenic side effects. Most top women are looking at the changes in facial structure that they're seeing on the (former) top women who started competing a decade ago, and are cutting back on the AAS and using more GH. This isn't a hard and fast rule, but it's a trend I am noticing.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

None.

I think because the half-life is too short and lack of systemic effect.

The entire effect is systemic. Admittedly, I prefer ephedrine to clen or albuterol...but I honestly think that you likely didn't try albuterol in the proper protocol if you didn't think it was better than clen. It's really far superior.

 

[Nelson Montana]

8 weeks max?

Yeah, believe it or not that was the standard way back when, unless you were competing. For some reason, at around between 6-10 weeks the body starts to catch on to the exogenous hormones and it quickly slows down both natural T production and the response (intolerance) to the drugs. The "kick" isn't quite there anymore. This is why I can't understand how suddenly there's a generation of guys who claim they don't even FEEL the gear for 6 weeks! (???)

It's at that point where it's best to get out -- recover -- and do it again a couple of months later. That's of course if you're health conscious.

The hard core guys stayed on longer and some never came off. I never saw myself as someone whose life was anabolics. I was fascinated by them and since they helped do what I'd been trying to do all my life, it made sense to capitalize on it. So I really appreciated the advantage they were giving me and when I was on I trained like a madman and eat everything that walked, flew or swam. I think that's why I made good gains on small dosages.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

The hard core guys stayed on longer and some never came off. I never saw myself as someone whose life was anabolics. I was fascinated by them and since they helped do what I'd been trying to do all my life, it made sense to capitalize on it. So I really appreciated the advantage they were giving me and when I was on I trained like a madman and eat everything that walked, flew or swam. I think that's why I made good gains on small dosages.

Nobody comes off any longer. I work with literally a dozen top BB'ers and Powerlifters, and none of them ever come off, ever.

Ever.

Their maintenance dose is 500mgs/week, basically to a person. I think they all use that amount to maintain. No shit.

Literally nobody I work with who is a top level IFBB pro or top powerlifter is using any less than that. I work with 1 (one!) 165lb powerlifter (Elite level) who uses 200mgs of test/week for his maintenance dose.

 

[alcatraz1662]

Test Enth
Test Cyp
Test Prop
Test Susp
EQ
Tren Ace
Winny
Var
Dbol
Superdrol
Phera Plex

AIFM
Adex
Letro
HCG
Nolva
Clomid
IGF-1
Clen

What I've learned:
1. Never do winny again...ever.
2. Won't do var unless I have the $$ to run 100mg+.
3. Letro is stronger than you think, most people run 1.25mg/ed or eod....I ran .3mg/ed and that was more than enough.
4. Clen doesn't do shit for me...even at 200mcg+.
5. Suspension rules.
6. So does HCG.
7. And finally, Tren might be the earthly physical form of the devil...aka Satan...aka Lucifer.

~Alc

 

[skilikeme]

The entire effect is systemic. Admittedly, I prefer ephedrine to clen or albuterol...but I honestly think that you likely didn't try albuterol in the proper protocol if you didn't think it was better than clen. It's really far superior.

To the experienced, quick Q if you don't mind lending your knowledge on hGH.

I am someone that has good genetics and is fit already (w/o any AAS at this point). I need extra quickness and stregth. Wanting to try hGH alone, over the next 6 - 8 months, at 3iu, 5 on 2 off. I get urine tested so I can't take much else.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

To the experienced, quick Q if you don't mind lending your knowledge on hGH.

I am someone that has good genetics and is fit already (w/o any AAS at this point). I need extra quickness and stregth. Wanting to try hGH alone, over the next 6 - 8 months, at 3iu, 5 on 2 off. I get urine tested so I can't take much else.

If you need quickness, try nootropics, not hGH. Hydergene and Periactim are far superior to hGH for athletes requiring speed.

 

[Vascular Freak]

i've seen the effects of hgh and don't think its worth it at all....BUT i am wondering if IGF will cause the same big headed neandrathol look like gh????

 

[Vascular Freak]

number of cycles ran: 6 cycles ranging from 8-14 weeks

gear used:

test prop, enanth
primo
eq
var
winstrol
tren
t3
masteron
igf
and all ancillaries and PCT drugs


one thing that is crazy to think is the amount of people that run all types of gear at high doses and long durations and don't really even look like they use gear except for maybe a little extra thickness......blows my mind

 

[Anthony Roberts]

one thing that is crazy to think is the amount of people that run all types of gear at high doses and long durations and don't really even look like they use gear except for maybe a little extra thickness......blows my mind

People say that all the time. But look at the last person who won the Tour de France. Does he look like he used gear? Not really...yet, he tested positive 2x...and he has earned millions (i.e. the amount you would earn from winning the Mr.Olympia roughly 10x).

People use steroids for different reasons than being "swole"...

I use steroids. Most of the time I'm the biggest guy in the room (200lbs at 5'7")...yet on the internet, where everyone is 275lbs ripped, I'm not very impressive.

I doubt most professional athletes would even use AAS if they'd only earn the kind of money Mr.O earns (i.e. the top prize for the most muscular man on the planet).

 

[Vascular Freak]

if you have a purpose than by all means i shoot aas to no end but for the common person using aas as a hobby to aid in gains at the gym some people seem to talk about crazy cycles with harsh compounds and just look a little bloated.....like you could acheive on a clean high cal diet naturally???? i've been at 208 at 5'8" naturally before ever touching gear...BUT with my genetics i could only be that size and sloppy....light aas cycles has made it able for me to keep my weight at 195 in the mid single digits.....some guys are neither ripped nor cock diesel and running absurb test/dec/dbol cycles???

 

[airsmith2k]

test enanthate
test cypionate
test suspension
test propianate
winstrol injects
winstrol tabs
turanabol
dianabol
anadrol
equipose
deca
tren enanthate
human growth hormone
sustanon
hcg, clomid
proviron

probably more but i cant think of anything else rite now....

 

[skilikeme]

If you need quickness, try nootropics, not hGH. Hydergene and Periactim are far superior to hGH for athletes requiring speed.

I apologize but I looked into Hydergene and Periactim and they seem to be for stimulating the brain or depression. Do they work for running performance as well? and pass the test?

I am a Olympic athlete, in the usada testing pool, looking for something that could help me run a little faster and increase quickness.

I apologize if you may have misunderstood me, but I was relating hGH to running as something that could give me a boost. I am looking for a small increase in speed and quickness.

 

[needtogetaas]

I lack extensive knowledge when it comes to HGH, IGF-1, & thyroid meds

me to.

 

[Varga]

Test Enth
Test Cyp
Test Prop
Test Susp
EQ
Tren Ace
Winny
Var
Dbol
Superdrol
Phera Plex

AIFM
Adex
Letro
HCG
Nolva
Clomid
IGF-1
Clen

What I've learned:
1. Never do winny again...ever.
2. Won't do var unless I have the $$ to run 100mg+.
3. Letro is stronger than you think, most people run 1.25mg/ed or eod....I ran .3mg/ed and that was more than enough.
4. Clen doesn't do shit for me...even at 200mcg+.
5. Suspension rules.
6. So does HCG.
7. And finally, Tren might be the earthly physical form of the devil...aka Satan...aka Lucifer.

~Alc

Don't like winny either, but just out of curiosity what did you experience?

 

[sofakingdel]

Test Enth
Test Cyp
Test Prop
Test Susp
EQ
Tren Ace
Winny
Var
Dbol
Superdrol
Phera Plex

AIFM
Adex
Letro
HCG
Nolva
Clomid
IGF-1
Clen

What I've learned:
1. Never do winny again...ever.
2. Won't do var unless I have the $$ to run 100mg+.
3. Letro is stronger than you think, most people run 1.25mg/ed or eod....I ran .3mg/ed and that was more than enough.
4. Clen doesn't do shit for me...even at 200mcg+.
5. Suspension rules.
6. So does HCG.
7. And finally, Tren might be the earthly physical form of the devil...aka Satan...aka Lucifer.

~Alc

you took 200mcg+ of clen, with no effect, damn son. So tren is the devil would you do it again, dance with tren devil for some high quality muscle. i know i would but i've only done tren E and tren hex.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

I apologize but I looked into Hydergene and Periactim and they seem to be for stimulating the brain or depression. Do they work for running performance as well? and pass the test?

They're in a class of drugs commonly called nootropics, and they're very beneficial for athletes looking for quickness. From what I know, they're very popular in Track & Field, and several world records were set using them...I don't know if they're tested for or not.

 

[ironclaw]

I"ve used sustonon, enanthate, omnas, prop, t-450, clen, tbol, dbol, anadrol, anavar, winny, eq, tren ace, proviron, letro, adex, nolva, aromasin, oral primo, hcg, hmg, cabaser, that's all I think.

 

[Triple J]

deca, dbol, winnie, anavar, halo, proviron, methyl-1-test, methyltest, primo, EQ, HGH, rhesus monkey GH from monkey cadavers (my brothers from 80's chime in if you remember this) and of course test enanthate, cypionate, various prohormones, and PCT stuff like clomid, nolva, letro, adex, aromasin, HCG, and also T3, bromo, dostinex, selegilene, piracetum

and probably some other stuff i am forgetting with my favorites being human grade anything and the things i will not do again are deca, bromo

 

[skilikeme]

They're in a class of drugs commonly called nootropics, and they're very beneficial for athletes looking for quickness. From what I know, they're very popular in Track & Field, and several world records were set using them...I don't know if they're tested for or not.

Thanks I will look into them some more!