Post Cycle and Unleashed

[Nelson Montana]

If you still have the blood work results post them up, please.

Same here. I encourage every one to do pre and post blood tests. That proves what works and what doesn't.

Now I get blood work done every few months and I've tested every one of products personally since I know all the variables. (Test subjects can do lots of things to sckew results) and have found increased free T from UNLEASHED and lower e from POST CYCLE. (Liver enzymes were negledgable but never high anyway). But my results can obviously only be seen as biased, which is why I'd like to hear from more members.

Also, don't exclude general mood and libido. These can't be gauged -- only "felt."

 

[Mrpumped]

Same here. I encourage every one to do pre and post blood tests. That proves what works and what doesn't.

Now I get blood work done every few months and I've tested every one of products personally since I know all the variables. (Test subjects can do lots of things to sckew results) and have found increased free T from UNLEASHED and lower e from POST CYCLE. (Liver enzymes were negledgable but never high anyway). But my results can obviously only be seen as biased, which is why I'd like to hear from more members.

Also, don't exclude general mood and libido. These can't be gauged -- only "felt."

Sounds good.

 

[Mrpumped]

Have you guys seen the MyoGenX bloodwork yet? It was like an 800% increase in test for hypogonadic subject...

Yes I did. It was a while back but I remember.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

The thing is, and I'm sure this is why Nelson isn't putting up his own bloodwork....

I didn't even use MyoGenX for months after it was out. Why? Because whatever I say about it, when I use it, is going to seem biased. I didn't even bother using it for that reason.

 

[cipherking]

Have you guys seen the MyoGenX bloodwork yet? It was like an 800% increase in test for hypogonadic subject...

dam 800% thats a lot. was that all natural? if it is im definatelly getting it. wont need AAS with all these great supps out there.

 

[Nelson Montana]

dam 800% thats a lot. was that all natural? if it is im definatelly getting it. wont need anabolic androgenic steroids with all these great supps out there.

Keep in mind, that was with "hypogonadal subjects."

I don't want to shoot down the enthusiasm, especially for my companies products, but I do want to be straight up here.

If someones T is in the gutter -- let's say at 50 mgs, and it goes up to 400 mgs -- that's an increase of 800%. Now that's pretty damn fucking good! BUT, we don't want to give the impression that anyone who takes UNLEASHED or MyogenX will increase their testosterone level anywhere near a superphysiological level hundreds of times higher no matter what the baseline is.

However, no matter where your baseline is, even if it's high, it will go higher.

One other reminder -- Myogenx works by increasing L.H. and UNLEASHED works by lowering S H B G. So they should be used just as you would use drugs which do the same thing. Yet, since they're not supressive they can be used anytime.

 

[boston789]

Keep in mind, that was with "hypogonadal subjects."

I don't want to shoot down the enthusiasm, especially for my companies products, but I do want to be straight up here.

If someones T is in the gutter -- let's say at 50 mgs, and it goes up to 400 mgs -- that's an increase of 800%. Now that's pretty damn fucking good! BUT, we don't want to give the impression that anyone who takes UNLEASHED or MyogenX will increase their testosterone level anywhere near a superphysiological level hundreds of times higher no matter what the baseline is.

However, no matter where your baseline is, even if it's high, it will go higher.

One other reminder -- Myogenx works by increasing L.H. and UNLEASHED works by lowering S H B G. So they should be used just as you would use drugs which do the same thing. Yet, since they're not supressive they can be used anytime.

Fair enough....thanks for the candidness.

Now one more quesiton....what happends to your levels when you come off Unleashed or Myogenx?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Fair enough....thanks for the candidness.

Now one more quesiton....what happends to your levels when you come off Unleashed or Myogenx?

In the case of UNLEASHED they will return to the starting leve under normal circumstances. (Nothing is forever). BUT...there's no supression, so that's a pretty good trade off.

In the case of using it PC T, it'll give a jump start to having higher free T while you recoup naturally.

With MyogenX I'm not certain since I didn't do the testing on it but I'm going to guess and say it'll be the same thing. However, since it works to increase L.H. it's something you might want to cycle anyway.

 

[boston789]

In the case of UNLEASHED they will return to the starting leve under normal circumstances. (Nothing is forever). BUT...there's no supression, so that's a pretty good trade off.

In the case of using it PC T, it'll give a jump start to having higher free T while you recoup naturally.

With MyogenX I'm not certain since I didn't do the testing on it but I'm going to guess and say it'll be the same thing. However, since it works to increase L.H. it's something you might want to cycle anyway.

When you mean they return to start level under normal circumstances you mean your natural T levels correct? Not what they were right before you started using Unleased....

 

[Nelson Montana]

When you mean they return to start level under normal circumstances you mean your natural T levels correct? Not what they were right before you started using Unleased....

Exactly. Not a "supressed" level, but your "normal" level.