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Please help former anorexic, bulimic!

The main thing Nessa, is NOT to worry if at first you put a few pounds on rather quickly. It's unavoidable if you haven't been eating much for a long time. After a few weeks it should settle down.

Try spatts diet maybe to start? This would be a fat loss diet for most BUT you are looking to increase cals by eating normally rather than bulking like a BBer yet. Lots of protein in there. The main problem you are going to have is the feeling of loss of control as your bodyweight rises due to LBM. Remember, it's muscle, not fat. The bodybuilding diet is handy as it will allow you to strictly control your food intake, but in a healthy way. Prepare your meals the night before, and eat every few hours - once you feel ravenously hungry, it's too late, your blood sugar has dropped and you will have cravings.

Eat 6 times a day. Every time you skip a meal, your metabolism drops, so you burn fewer cals than you would otherwise. If you eat "too much" one day, don't cut back by eating less the next - that tends to cause carb cravings which used to cause binge eating disorder in me and maybe builimia in those with bulimia.

I worry about weight more like a regular girl than someone with an ED but it's taken a LOT for me to look at bf% rather than scale weight as the barometer of health. Remember, a gain in LBM is also a reduction in bf%.

For a good heavy lifting BB program check out Krista's website at www.stumptuous.com/weights.html, her site is geared at beginners in free weights, especially women. A fitrness isntructor you probably know most of the stuff on there alreadybut she has some good starter programs. Don't overtrain - you gain LBM when eating and resting, not actually when training, remember....
 
Hey Nessa-

Well, I just want to congratulate you on wanting to overcome your ED. I have struggled with anorexia since I was in the 8th grade. I am now almost 22 years old. I went through hospitalizations and the whole nine yards before I realized "This is not a way of life." My choice was to either die or get better. I don't really remember what made me want to change or what made me realize that I didn't want to be like that anymore.(I am not saying that I don't have my days where it is still really hard, I think I always will, but I just choose not to let it control me.)
I began doing research on nutrition and exercise. I realized that I didn't know much about it. About two years ago somebody gave me the book "Body for Life." It was a very good starting point for me b/c it taught me how to incorporate lifting, food, rest, and everything else into my day. I know the thought of gaining weight scares you, but really if you train right and feed your body the right nutrients you will see great results. And believe me, these ladies on here have some excellent advice and far better knowledge about this than I do. So I listen to their advice.
I did the Body for Life for the twelve weeks plus more. I have researched on here and other websites about the CKD diet and program. I started it today. I feel like my body gets used to certain things and training and meal plans after a while. I hit a plateau and then it is time to try something different. I have heard that many have had great results with it. So I figured that I would give it a try.
I would definitely listen to what the others are saying and try doing spatts' diet. She is very intelligent and has given me tons of advice.
Seriously though, just hang in there, try hard, and keep asking questions.
 
Look okay?

Circus girl- DO you think I should jump right in their with 2000 calories on Spatt's diet? I'm thinking less would be better to start with. What's your opinion?

Also...
I plan to do 3 moderate intensity cardio workouts for 30-45 minutes and 2-3 HIIT sessions for about 20-30 mins. each week? Is that still too much?

This is a workout I got from Krista's site and it seems like a good basic routine with which I can add some muscle and stoke my metabolism. Is their anything anyone might change as in reps or sets?

day 1 - legs


squat
3 sets of 6-10 reps

split squat or lunge
3 x 6-10

stiff-legged deadlift
3 x 8-10

calf raise
3 x 6-10

back hyperextensions
3 x 8-10




day 2 - chest, triceps, abs


bench or dumbbell press
3 x 6-10

dips or assisted dips (if you can)
3 x 6-10

incline bench or dumbbell press
3 x 6-10

lying triceps press
3 x 8-10

ab crunches or swissball crunches
3 x 8-10




day 3 - back, biceps


deadlift
3 x 6-10

pullups OR lat pulldowns
3 sets of as many as you can do for pullups (if you can do more than 6-8 pullups at once, put a 5-lb plate between your knees and do them), 3 sets of 6-8 reps for lat pulldowns

dumbbell row OR ROBO row
3 x 8-10

biceps curl
3 x 6-10

back hyperextension
3 x 8-10




day 4 - shoulders, lower back


standing shoulder press
3 x 6-10

power shrugs
3 x 6-10

lateral raises
2 x 8-10

ab crunches or swissball crunches
3 x 8-10


Thanks Again!


:D
 
Welcome to the boards! Everyone's given you great advice. This board helped me overcome a 20 year struggle with anorexia/bulimia. I'll touch on a few things that have been helpful to me.

1) Make changes gradually. This was especially important for me with diet, since I had so many psychological issues about food. I just couldn't understand how eating more food wasn't going to make me gain fat. The trouble was my old way of eating involved eating too many refined carbs or nothing at all. As I gradually began adding good things to my diet, my energy improved and I was able to work harder in the gym. Being able to train at a higher level brought me much better results.

2) Think of yourself as an athlete in training. Feed yourself and train yourself to build a stronger, faster, better body. Never think of yourself as a "dieter", it's too negative. Keep a training log to chart your progress. (I was afraid of looking silly in the gym carrying my little book, but now I don't care because I really believe it's the secret to my success :).) It encourages me to train harder, because I want to see my weight/reps improve from week to week. It also will alert me to possible overtraining/lack of nutrients, if my numbers start stagnating.

3) Add a fish oil supplement to your diet. I am taking Fisol, a capsule that doesn't cause any fish burps. A diet of only 15% fat is very low, and I doubt you can get sufficient essential fatty acids (healthy fats) from that. Essential fatty acids (EFA's) are important for just about every function in your body, including fat-burning, heart health, joint health, and mental health. Diets low in EFA's have been linked to higher rates of depression.

4) Training with heavier weights did not make me big, it actually made me leaner. I gained 10 pounds, but I dropped 2 pant sizes. That's the cool thing about muscle weight, it takes up less space than fat, plus it burns calories even doing nothing. Seeing my higher scale weight doesn't bother me anymore, because I know those muscle pounds mean more calorie-burning power. :jump:
 
Ditto for all the above. Ideas for good sources of essential fatty acids are flaxseed oil ( an excellent brand is Barleans), and the fish oil that ff mentioned ( another good product is Carlsons liquid fish oil, comes in lemon flavor, no burps)

Good luck to you.
 
Nessa -- you just got some of the best info this board has to offer! The training routine looks good - but jsut as with anything new, ease into it so you don't over do and then have to back off to recover. Same w/ the diet - ease into it slowly. Definitely keep your fat intake at a reasonable level - - flax oil or fish oil are good sources. Definitely take the carb increase slowly - I've been following bodybuildign type diets for about 5 yrs - in the last few years I've become pretty carb-sensitive - if I load one day or junk out, I feel BLOAT and serious water retention for a day. Its all about letting your body adjust to the changes a little at a time.

You'll do great & feel better & better!
 
Thanks to everyone for all of the encouragement and advice!

Fit Fossil, Valerie, Sassy-
However, I have a question about the fat intake? I was going to try Spatt's diet to begin with and the fat intake is only 16%. Should I increase it and if so, what do I decrease in order to balance it? Also, I have an essential oil mix that includes flax, pumpkin, almond , and borage oils. Doues that sound okay or should I get the fish oil?

Sassy- I'm definitely going to take the carbs slow. I am already aware that I can't eat a lot of carbs without really feeling it and seeing it in the mirror.

Courtney, Fit Fossil- I am so glad to hear that you guys have also been through an ed and come out ahead. I was/am afraid that I was doomed to struggle with food and my weight forever, either starving myself to saty small or trying to eat normally and just getting fat because I was training and eating the wrong way. I will probably need to lean on you guys at times and I just want to say thanks in advance. Also, Fit Fossil, how long did it take for you to reach your current level of fitness? You look GREAT!
Thanks,
Nessa
 
NB-that oil mix sounds just right. The main idea is to find a good product that includes all the good stuff and use it on a reg basis. As with all this info above---being consistent is what counts.

As far as % of diet I think you can go up to 20%. Fat is not the enemy and we do need some in our diet to stay healthy. A person can be too low in dietary fat. Good for joints, hair and skin plus other things as well, hormones etc.

Again you can always try different sources for your effas (essential fatty acids), whenever you want. There is usually good info on these, on the boards or you could do your own research. I find the good fats to be very interesting, although the general public is not convinced of their importance yet.
 
Thank you :)! I'll always be a work in progress. Two of my idols are Kelly Nelson, a bodybuilder in her 70's you can see here: http://www.agelesstraining.com/indexx.htm and Clarence Bass in his 60's here: http://www.cbass.com/. Like these two, I want to make my body into the best athlete it can be, and I want to have an active independent life from now to however long I live. I don't necessarily want to live long but well, and fitness makes a huge difference.

The timespan on the Before & After pictures in my gallery (not sure if you can see those or not) and my avatar was from Jan 2000 to Jan 2002. Changing my diet brought dramatic changes. Some things changed w/in weeks. My upper body responded quickly. My lower body took more time (because that's where most of the fat was). Things are still changing, though much more subtly.

Sometimes others will see your changes before you will. Since you see yourself in the mirror every day, and will be looking for changes, they'll be hard to see. I recommend taking photos of yourself every few months. (I didn't do it but wish I had.) Sometimes you'll feel like things aren't changing, but if the #'s in your training log are improving, then things on the inside are changing, and when things change on the inside, they'll soon change on the outside.
 
Thanks for the advice Fit Fossil-
YOur encouragement means a lot. I am really doing well this week. I've been lifting heavier, doing about 45 minutes of cardio/day alternating steady state and interval session and I've icreased cals to 1000/day and am basically trying to follow spatt's cutting diet ratio's with slightly more fat.

I do have a question though? How did you mentally handle gaining weight/lbm when you started your recovery? I'm pretty sure I will gain LBM before I lose BF and I don't want to freak out.

Thanks,
Nessa
 
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