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"Great feedback guys.
Fonz, we have played around with Piperine in the past, and since it is basically very strong pepper, it can cause heartburn. Have you found this to be the case too? That's why I thought the Narangin was such a good idea.
Daeo, the Kava should act like a very mild benzodiazepine, not a sedative. It will not make you sleepy, but should help you not care too much about the jitters. What are everyone elses thoughts on the Kava?"
Kava is an effective sedative, but the mechanisms are not yet elucidated, as it seems to have multiple mechanisms. Valerian would be a better, more selective benzo-like choice, but it is hard to find extracts standardized with high amounts of valeric acid or valpotriates. Kava is fine, and you can definately get a good high Kavalactone extract, but there is muscle relaxant qualities that may not be desired.
Cayenne is thermogenic by virtue of the capsaicinoids, which simply cause the release of norepi from nerve terminals. With all of the norepi releasers already in your brew (E+C+Y) you may be running the well dry. The tyrosine would help replenish some catecholamine levels. Ginger, due to gingerol and other shagaols, has been shown to do a similar effect as cayenne.
Really, thinking about it, there is not going to be that much one can do, until we find something new, since we are really tapping the adrenergic system.
Micronized USP progesterone. Duchaine hinted around to progesterone's benefit during dieting, and it may be useful. If one is hypocaloric, progesterone stimulates the hell out of lipolysis, and the resulting free fatty acid levels reduce glucose metabolism, thus sparing muscle catabolism. I have always wondered if levonorgesterol would be good to use during a keto or low carb diet to preserve muscle. It is anti-estrogenic, and anabolic, since it binds (and activates) the AR. Many have heard the stories of people using Trophobolone, with no problems. Dan stated that one pro he knew used it during dieting and always came in ripped.
Damn, this post is too long.
Fonz, we have played around with Piperine in the past, and since it is basically very strong pepper, it can cause heartburn. Have you found this to be the case too? That's why I thought the Narangin was such a good idea.
Daeo, the Kava should act like a very mild benzodiazepine, not a sedative. It will not make you sleepy, but should help you not care too much about the jitters. What are everyone elses thoughts on the Kava?"
Kava is an effective sedative, but the mechanisms are not yet elucidated, as it seems to have multiple mechanisms. Valerian would be a better, more selective benzo-like choice, but it is hard to find extracts standardized with high amounts of valeric acid or valpotriates. Kava is fine, and you can definately get a good high Kavalactone extract, but there is muscle relaxant qualities that may not be desired.
Cayenne is thermogenic by virtue of the capsaicinoids, which simply cause the release of norepi from nerve terminals. With all of the norepi releasers already in your brew (E+C+Y) you may be running the well dry. The tyrosine would help replenish some catecholamine levels. Ginger, due to gingerol and other shagaols, has been shown to do a similar effect as cayenne.
Really, thinking about it, there is not going to be that much one can do, until we find something new, since we are really tapping the adrenergic system.
Micronized USP progesterone. Duchaine hinted around to progesterone's benefit during dieting, and it may be useful. If one is hypocaloric, progesterone stimulates the hell out of lipolysis, and the resulting free fatty acid levels reduce glucose metabolism, thus sparing muscle catabolism. I have always wondered if levonorgesterol would be good to use during a keto or low carb diet to preserve muscle. It is anti-estrogenic, and anabolic, since it binds (and activates) the AR. Many have heard the stories of people using Trophobolone, with no problems. Dan stated that one pro he knew used it during dieting and always came in ripped.
Damn, this post is too long.
. I haven't tried the "cool" cayenne, so I don't know if it has the same effect.
