Planning to get serious.

[marcbachscalella]

So Next september Ill be going serious about this, and hoping to jump to the next lvl.... So see if it sounds reasonable.

Im currently on 4iu hgh Ed and planning for staying year round with it.

im on contest season and will finish next week and weight is at 76kg on stage for 174tall.

so Its likely ill be around 85 to 90kg by september. (hopefully under 12%bf)

Long 16 week cycle consisting of:

-500 to 750 test
-450 to 600 tri tren (lab dependant) / -750 deca (unsure)
- 100mg 4 week anadrol kick start
- Slin 4 week on 4 week off, but checking protocols and dosages.
-probably would add some winny last 8 weeks.
+ 4iu hgh ED
Anyone been through something like this?

 

[wcjcMr.O]

First cycle? that's a shit ton of gear for someone looking to weight about 190lbs.

your like 5 foot 7? shouldn't need that much shit to weight 190 lbs. Imo

 

[Stackinplates]

To much gear ! Overkill

 

[Stackinplates]

16 weeks of tren :/ never like that idea don't care if it's long Ester
Unless ur on Trt long tren runs are not wise

 

[wcjcMr.O]

16 weeks of tren :/ never like that idea don't care if it's long Ester
Unless ur on Trt long tren runs are not wise

Also pair that with hgh, slin, test and deca? and he's looking to be 190lbs AFTER this cycle? He must not eat. I'm sure there are national level competitors that take less shit. Probably pros too

 

[marcbachscalella]

not first cycle obviously and not going on tren for 16 weeks, [emoji14]. it willl be tren and then deca after x amount of weeks, but am unsure....I reckon Ill be around 85 to 90kg for when I start.

 

[wcjcMr.O]

not first cycle obviously and not going on tren for 16 weeks, [emoji14]. it willl be tren and then deca after x amount of weeks, but am unsure....I reckon Ill be around 85 to 90kg for when I start.

How tall are you? still too much for someone 190lbs. Unless your 4'6". Even then, something like this is for an extremely advanced user. And if you were that, i highly doubt you'd be asking for advice on a forum

 

[Stackinplates]

Yea can we get a bit more info on stats cycle history and diet ?!

 

[marcbachscalella]

not asking advice, asking experiences on similar cruises

 

[wcjcMr.O]

not asking advice, asking experiences on similar cruises

Your probably the only person on the planet who would "cruise" on all that shit. Good luck to you. I'm out

 

[marcbachscalella]

never mind, I meant cycle.

I'm a physique competitor planning to go for the arnold classic europe amateur next season and looking for going a little more serious and have a chance to do something.
but nevermind, sorry for asking for such a thing.... I never understand why in forums people slate the newbies to the forum this much...
If anyone else is able to give some feedback on a similar cycle that Ive layed out? Ive never used slin, and havent been on that dose of tren before but Ive been fine on 300mg parabolin AP no mad issues.

 

[Stackinplates]

No one is gonna give advice to a guy that is stubborn and won't give more stars or cycle history !
I stated in a post before this about that
And if a guy wants to be stubborn then the advanced guys will not wanna help it's about helping the guys that "don't know " not solo feeding them cycles and doses !

That's like me giving advice to a 12 yr old on how to jack up his hormones . He is gonna have issues and not about to function properly

From what I read ur not advanced in hormones . So until u can post diet age and how long u ha been training and how many cycle and what u have done im out as well and won't help!

Enjoy ur day sir....

 

[Vast]

So Next september Ill be going serious about this, and hoping to jump to the next lvl.... So see if it sounds reasonable.

Im currently on 4iu hgh Ed and planning for staying year round with it.

im on contest season and will finish next week and weight is at 76kg on stage for 174tall.

so Its likely ill be around 85 to 90kg by september. (hopefully under 12%bf)

Long 16 week cycle consisting of:

-500 to 750 test
-450 to 600 tri tren (lab dependant) / -750 deca (unsure)
- 100mg 4 week anadrol kick start
- Slin 4 week on 4 week off, but checking protocols and dosages.
-probably would add some winny last 8 weeks.
+ 4iu hgh ED
Anyone been through something like this?

Yeah, looks good but I'd drop the anadrol and just kickstart with 1000-1500mg of test the first week. You should add Arimidex .5mg EOD.

What's your plan for pct? How old are you?

 

[wcjcMr.O]

Vast was bombed for giving stupid fucking advice. way too much gear and this guy (vast) tells him to up his test. Bombed!!!

 

[Stackinplates]

Vast was bombed for giving stupid fucking advice. way too much gear and this guy (vast) tells him to up his test. Bombed!!!

We still don't have this guys age!

Normally the young guys give all stats besides age ! I could be wrong though ...

Come on man that gear is good for a beginner if they have a shitty ugl that is seriously under doses

Run that stuff with real legit high doses ur nuts are gonna hide up inside ya for a long wile and if u want them back they might have forgotten how to come back !

 

[Vast]

Too much gear? I know people that have run almost this same cycle with phenomenal results. Would def like a little more info on the OP but I don't think my advice was off base. He wants to jumpstart so why not just jumpstart with double test the first week instead of introducing another compound? I also recommended an AI and asked what his plan is for PCT. Not sure why you think this is too much gear but I've seen people run higher doses of a similar cycle without issues.

 

[wootoom]

Wow...slin, test, tren and anadrol in a first cycle...this is nonsense..what has happened to just a simple first cycle. This makes me sick

 

[wootoom]

Ok I guess it's not your first cycle, I just think that's still a lot of gear..also, 16 weeks on tren is a stretch

 

[Stackinplates]

Yea 16 weeks tren like I said is not wise unless ur very advanced

 

[Stackinplates]

Or in Trt and don't have to worry about test function

 

[wcjcMr.O]

Too much gear? I know people that have run almost this same cycle with phenomenal results. Would def like a little more info on the OP but I don't think my advice was off base. He wants to jumpstart so why not just jumpstart with double test the first week instead of introducing another compound? I also recommended an AI and asked what his plan is for PCT. Not sure why you think this is too much gear but I've seen people run higher doses of a similar cycle without issues.

YES...TOO MUCH GEAR!!! are you not rembering that this guy is HOPING to be 190lbs when he starts this cycle. He's a "physique competitor". Doesn't need all that shit. If he was a national level bodybuilder it would be one thing. But slin, hgh and over 2 grams of gear for 190lb physique competitor is ridiculous.

Still want more stats on this guy tho. A pic would be good too. but I doubt that's gonna happen.

 

[Vast]

YES...TOO MUCH GEAR!!! are you not rembering that this guy is HOPING to be 190lbs when he starts this cycle. He's a "physique competitor". Doesn't need all that shit. If he was a national level bodybuilder it would be one thing. But slin, hgh and over 2 grams of gear for 190lb physique competitor is ridiculous.



Still want more stats on this guy tho. A pic would be good too. but I doubt that's gonna happen.

OP said he weighs 167lbs currently. He's trying to gain 31lbs roughly to get to 90kgs or 198lbs.

You need a LOT of gear to gain 31lbs in 16 weeks. You aren't gaining 31lbs from a simple test cycle. If he's experienced with tren he will be fine.

He should probably drop the hgh around 4 weeks from his contest though as it can make you look a little soft while running it.

I stand by my advice, if he were only looking to add 15-20lbs then I'd say run lower dosages.

 

[wcjcMr.O]

OP said he weighs 167lbs currently. He's trying to gain 31lbs roughly to get to 90kgs or 198lbs.

You need a LOT of gear to gain 31lbs in 16 weeks. You aren't gaining 31lbs from a simple test cycle. If he's experienced with tren he will be fine.

He should probably drop the hgh around 4 weeks from his contest though as it can make you look a little soft while running it.

I stand by my advice, if he were only looking to add 15-20lbs then I'd say run lower dosages.

Your 100% wrong. If he is 167lbs he has zero business running ANYTHING. unless he is under 5' tall he is EXTREMELY small and obviously doesn't know how to train and eat. And you need to know what your doing in the gym and kitchen before touching AAS. steroids are not a solution for shit training and eating.

And your also wrong about not gaining 30 lbs on a simple test cycle. I personally have gained over 30 lbs in 12 weeks on only 500mg test e and an oral kickstart. Granted after i dropped some water weight it was coser to 22lbs but still. So again, sounds like you don't know what the hell your talking about.

 

[wootoom]

Your 100% wrong. If he is 167lbs he has zero business running ANYTHING. unless he is under 5' tall he is EXTREMELY small and obviously doesn't know how to train and eat. And you need to know what your doing in the gym and kitchen before touching AAS. steroids are not a solution for shit training and eating.

And your also wrong about not gaining 30 lbs on a simple test cycle. I personally have gained over 30 lbs in 12 weeks on only 500mg test e and an oral kickstart. Granted after i dropped some water weight it was coser to 22lbs but still. So again, sounds like you don't know what the hell your talking about.

I agree, just plain ludicrous

 

[Vast]

Your 100% wrong. If he is 167lbs he has zero business running ANYTHING. unless he is under 5' tall he is EXTREMELY small and obviously doesn't know how to train and eat. And you need to know what your doing in the gym and kitchen before touching AAS. steroids are not a solution for shit training and eating.

And your also wrong about not gaining 30 lbs on a simple test cycle. I personally have gained over 30 lbs in 12 weeks on only 500mg test e and an oral kickstart. Granted after i dropped some water weight it was coser to 22lbs but still. So again, sounds like you don't know what the hell your talking about.

You're making quite a few assumptions on the OP's lifting and diet. He's 5'8, 167 currently. Wants to get to 198. Granted 198 is probably too big for a 5'8 guy to be a physique competitor but that's neither here nor there. I know plenty of guys that are 5'8 and 170-180lbs who definitely know how to eat and train. I'll refrain from taking personal digs at you or your knowledge of the sport but you're jumping the gun by assuming OP doesn't know how to eat or train.

I'm done with this thread.

 

[Hotshotkj]

Bump

 

[wcjcMr.O]

You're making quite a few assumptions on the OP's lifting and diet. He's 5'8, 167 currently. Wants to get to 198. Granted 198 is probably too big for a 5'8 guy to be a physique competitor but that's neither here nor there. I know plenty of guys that are 5'8 and 170-180lbs who definitely know how to eat and train. I'll refrain from taking personal digs at you or your knowledge of the sport but you're jumping the gun by assuming OP doesn't know how to eat or train.

I'm done with this thread.

5'8" 167 is TINY. Unless he is just PEELED its pretty small. still plenty of room to grow naturally. if he knew how to eat and train he wouldn't be 167lbs Not making assumptions. It's fact