Pharmaceutical Drugs & Alcohol do NOT Mix!!!

[theemperor]

Even though this is the AAS forums, I felt compelled and moved to get the word out to ANYONE who takes prescription drugs and drinks alcohol is preparing a casket waiting for you to go into forever!! Yes, Whitney Houston died and right now there is speculation that pharmacy drugs & Alcohol could be the reason for her death, but only waiting for conclusive reports from the toxicology reports..
How many people and high iconic people have died because they overdosed on prescription medicine alone and much worse mixing it with Alcohol?? They never woke up!!!!!!!!!!!!
So keeping it short, never mix medication with Alcohol, period!! This goes for AAS also mixing it with alcohol.Your playing with fire!! Where there is smoke, there is fire.I have alot of passion behind my words in this thread, I would hate to hear of anyone getting caught in this situation, Best thing you and I can do is to educate others on this matter.., your family, friends, co-workers, etc.

 

[Arabian]

Good post. So many people, build up tolerances to prescriptions and then start self medicating with alcohol( which is a depressant as well) the two do not mix, and I have heard of several high profile people to have died mixing the two.

 

[Seattleborn206]

Even though this is the AAS forums, I felt compelled and moved to get the word out to ANYONE who takes prescription drugs and drinks alcohol is preparing a casket waiting for you to go into forever!! Yes, Whitney Houston died and right now there is speculation that pharmacy drugs & Alcohol could be the reason for her death, but only waiting for conclusive reports from the toxicology reports..
How many people and high iconic people have died because they overdosed on prescription medicine alone and much worse mixing it with Alcohol?? They never woke up!!!!!!!!!!!!
So keeping it short, never mix medication with Alcohol, period!! This goes for AAS also mixing it with alcohol.Your playing with fire!! Where there is smoke, there is fire.I have alot of passion behind my words in this thread, I would hate to hear of anyone getting caught in this situation, Best thing you and I can do is to educate others on this matter.., your family, friends, co-workers, etc.

Thank you for bringing this up. People need to know what can happen. I only wish that I could have stopped my grandfather from mixing his prescriptions and wine because it took his life only 2 months ago

 

[RADAR]

True people have died mixing Alcohol with prescription drugs!

 

[Steeltrain]

My brother headed that way and his new.junky gf is half the pro. I think I may start building it cause the other things is these.people have no clue how to be helped, dont except it , deny the problem, they only want help when drugs are gone and they break down. Trying to save a pill head or crackhead ect. Is a godsend if you can do it. My guess is if there really closed.in there drug bubble there no saving them unless u want to sit beside them and monitor there every move. Drug addicts of percription drugs and the h nearly never make it out clean and forever clean.

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[phenom16]

I beg to differ bro..for years I was hooked on everything under the sun..I found oxys and was an extreme everyday addict for almost 10 years..then I moved up to xxx..my life was in shambles, lost jobs, a house, money, friends, a fiancé, and family..until I tried to take my life as well..with the help of 12 step meetings and other people in the program, I have turned my life around.. I'm happily married (different girl), have a beautiful 18 month old son, and I celebrate 3 years of sobriety tomorrow!! Working out has played a huge role in my recovery as well..just my .02..

 

[stevesmi]

#1 reason for ER visits is alcohol related. people need to learn to use it responsibility and respect it. its a muscle killer i can tell you right now.. i used to drink in my early 20's and boy did it shrink up my muscles and kill my strength. alcohol and muscles don't mix.

 

[Seattleborn206]

I beg to differ bro..for years I was hooked on everything under the sun..I found oxys and was an extreme everyday addict for almost 10 years..then I moved up to heroin..my life was in shambles, lost jobs, a house, money, friends, a fiancé, and family..until I tried to take my life as well..with the help of 12 step meetings and other people in the program, I have turned my life around.. I'm happily married (different girl), have a beautiful 18 month old son, and I celebrate 3 years of sobriety tomorrow!! Working out has played a huge role in my recovery as well..just my .02..

Glad to hear bro congrats

 

[stevesmi]

Thank you for bringing this up. People need to know what can happen. I only wish that I could have stopped my grandfather from mixing his prescriptions and wine because it took his life only 2 months ago

wine is one of the biggest scams out there. you want anti-oxidants then drink grape juice, not wine.

if it was so good for you then lifters would carry it around with them while they work out lol.

 

[dylangemelli]

totally agree... i haven't drank or done any kind of drugs in over a year and I can't believe how much my physique has improved and the fact I feel better at nearly 30 than I did in my early 20's... it is a muscle killer and just a depressant in general... Cleaner lifestyle = better life!

#1 reason for ER visits is alcohol related. people need to learn to use it responsibility and respect it. its a muscle killer i can tell you right now.. i used to drink in my early 20's and boy did it shrink up my muscles and kill my strength. alcohol and muscles don't mix.

 

[searay]

I beg to differ bro..for years I was hooked on everything under the sun..I found oxys and was an extreme everyday addict for almost 10 years..then I moved up to xxx..my life was in shambles, lost jobs, a house, money, friends, a fiancé, and family..until I tried to take my life as well..with the help of 12 step meetings and other people in the program, I have turned my life around.. I'm happily married (different girl), have a beautiful 18 month old son, and I celebrate 3 years of sobriety tomorrow!! Working out has played a huge role in my recovery as well..just my .02..

good for you bro, stay strong.........

 

[phenom16]

Thanks bros..will do

 

[burnthiscorpse]

I admit if im not all in with the bb'ing lifestyle at any given point i do drink occasionally. But not to get drunk. If I drink something its because I enjoy the taste. I just never could get that "lets get fucked up!!!" mentality. "lets drink as much of whatever we can find to get wasted" ...what the fuck is that?
I all but stopped drinking beer cause it just bloats you and makes you fat. Not to mention I could drink a dozen and just wanna go to bed. So it was a waste of money.
I'll have a few glasses of wine once in a while but thats about it for me.
I dont even think drinking and BB'ing mix. It just doesnt look right.
As for perscription drugs, let alone mixing them with booze...you gotta be a serius fucking idiot to go down that street.

 

[Iron Warrior707]

I find it funny how everyone is talking about living a clean lifestyle and not doing drugs yet they forget that steroid is a drug..
Just a thought..

 

[burnthiscorpse]

I find it funny how everyone is talking about living a clean lifestyle and not doing drugs yet they forget that steroid is a drug..
Just a thought..

The big exception here is that one side is for getting wasted, high, low, ect. The other side is for improving your body, sense of well being, physical appearance ect. Done so in a sane way will not be detrimental to ones health.

 

[theemperor]

One thing, lets respect each others experiences and opinions.
Aside from that, I appreciate everyone's input in here. Talking addiction, booze, etc., but when you start involving alcohol while under the influence of medications, it can turn deadly. As an example, one may try Hydrocodone with a doctor's prescription, yes it will take away alot of pain but it goes further than that. People CAN abuse it involuntarily by involving alcohol into the scenario. The user will "think" he feels better or great when the euphoria takes place under Hydrocodone. THAT is when things get very risky, not a good thing at all!! Same goes for other medications and OTC meds. Really, this topic is to educate and awareness for ALL. Your families, friends, kids, teens, adults, everyone. Can you imagine if your friend, a relative or even your kid messed around just ONE time with meds and alcohol, then you get a phone call that he/she is in the ER?! Not me or my loved ones, if I can help them.

 

[The Alpha...]

I find it funny how everyone is talking about living a clean lifestyle and not doing drugs yet they forget that steroid is a drug..
Just a thought..

A lot of these steroids are prescribed for people with serious illnesses such as AIDS patients. There is a lot to gain and benefit from aas. But as I've always looked at it; too much of anything can make u an addict. Everyone has there own "thing" some are just worse than each other. I do drink beer or 2 periodically. Only on a weekend or so. I have actually popped a few pain pills also and drank on them yrs ago... It's just about knowing ur limits. I'm all for whomever doing what they want to as long as it doesn't effect their daly life.

 

[AV Cypress]

I beg to differ bro..for years I was hooked on everything under the sun..I found oxys and was an extreme everyday addict for almost 10 years..then I moved up to xxx..my life was in shambles, lost jobs, a house, money, friends, a fiancé, and family..until I tried to take my life as well..with the help of 12 step meetings and other people in the program, I have turned my life around.. I'm happily married (different girl), have a beautiful 18 month old son, and I celebrate 3 years of sobriety tomorrow!! Working out has played a huge role in my recovery as well..just my .02..

I agree 100%. In some cases people do change. I have seen several friends pass from drug overdose including my mother. I have also known several people that have been sober for several years that we thought there was no hope for. You never know. Prescription and recreational drugs are a bad gig.

 

[stevesmi]

I find it funny how everyone is talking about living a clean lifestyle and not doing drugs yet they forget that steroid is a drug..
Just a thought..

anabolic steroids are hormones. they are found naturally in the body. every single AAS out there is derived from male hormones.

coritico steroids are not anabolic steroids..

 

[needtogetaas]

I have helped a few gt sober.. Close family too and have gotten over the same my self years ago..

 

[stevesmi]

its sad. drinking is a sign of depression.. those that you see drinking daily are in depression and the more they drink they more depressed they will become. a lot of that has to do with a crappy and dead end job.. seems to be very common in certain job industries to see people drink heavily.

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

Roid Rage has never been scientifically proven.... But ill tell you the cocktail for it.... Alcohol+AAS=Roid Rage.. period

 

[jjcart11]

It's a lethal combo for sure. I got started on pain pills after surgeries from playing a professional sport. Then when you come back to the field the doctors they have will give you whatever you want to keep you on the field. As soon as my career was over it went from pills and boos . Thank god I was able to hit bottom and turn my life around and be able to celebrate 2 and a half years of sobriety. There are a lot of people that don't make it out of that hole, it's a dark lonely place!!

 

[jjcart11]

A lot of people out there think that you can just "Stop" or "Snap out of it"!! It's not that easy,and if it was you wouldn't have addicts or alcoholics. The majority of prescription addicts out there get started from doctors wrongfully giving them a shit ton of pills. Then from there after you have taken them per doctors orders your addicted. The withdrawals are a mother******. Then you add alcohol to the equation and it's a downward spiral. The good thing is there is help if you want it. The 12 step program has saved my life as well as numerous others. I was in the lime light as a professional athlete and when the switch was turned off I felt like so did my life. It took me 10yrs to turn my life around but it wasn't easy. Sorry to ramble but this is a topic that is close to me and if I can help just 1 person that's what it's all about!! Now my addiction is pushing steel

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ yes don't get me started on doctors. docs hand out addictive drugs like candy.

i will say that those painkillers in sports are absolutely crippling long term.. team docs just want you on the field, they don't care that in 10 years you will be crippled from pounding away at an injury that is made to go away from a pain killer. REAL SPORTS on hbo did a story on it and how players before a game would line up to get a painkiller injection. of course the team docs never mentioned the kidney damage and the long term consequences of tricking your brain into thinking you aren't hurting

and good for you for not ruining your life so young and getting things turned around

 

[jjcart11]

Thanks bro I really appreciate that a lot!!! I saw that segment and it made my stomach cringe. They don't care about you it's all about the money. I had 8 surgeries and you could imagine the amount of shit they loaded me up on when I was able to play again. Now I will forever have metal rods in my knees along with screws and plates. You become a guinny pig whether your an athlete or not. If anybody here has a problem with this or knows somebody that does I'm here to help. The gym and weightlifting is one of the things that helped save my life along with the adrenaline and endorphine high you get from it!!!

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ exactly but it goes back to what i always preach on here. its up to YOU to decide whats good to take. don't rely on what a doctor tells you, or what your 'buddy' at the gym tells you. everyone has to do their own research and make their own sound decisions. those players that line up before the game for injections are rich enough and smart enough to do their own research and know what is getting put into their bodies, and quite honestly, as you saw from Urlacher they just want to get on the field and they don't care. not sure if i would either if i was getting paid millions, let me cripple myself if it means my wife and kids never have to work again.

 

[nelson_303]

Great thread. I have lost a lot of friends to drugs and booze. Never have I lost a buddy at to AAS or to rehab for going to the gym to much. I have had my problems and now just trying to go forward. I would like to know how many guys come to the gym to escape other addictions.

 

[DannoMight]

I've lost a few friends and 3 family members to scripts and booze. They all started the same way with vicodins, then when taking more than 10 norco 10's or 1000mg vicodins a day wasn't cutting it they went on to oxys and when doin 80-100mgs of that got too expensive they went to heroin. I had one cousin od shortly after he went to shooting up. His brother got clean a year later but started drinking heavily a couple months after rehab then relapsed and died. I tried and tried to help them but it was pointless. They didn't want to get clean and it cost them their lives.

 

[C.K.]

moderation is key

 

[Jaxtwo1]

I spent 9 days in detox and an additional several weeks in rehab for alcohol and xanax. I coded out twice. Any mixing of alcohol and benzos can/will kill you. They are the very few drugs where both can cause death during detox. That was 4 years ago and I have not touched either since.

 

[jjcart11]

Right on bro that's great to hear!!! It's hard because loved ones try to do whatever they can to help get the person clean but like what Steve said its up to you and you only. I had millions and thought I was set up but my addiction took over after my career was done. The only way to get what I wanted was money so those millions went pretty fucking fast over the course of a few years. You get stuck in the high life and living like a rockstar it's a crazy lifestyle. I know a lot of guys especially athletes that use the gym to help them stay clean. It becomes a way of life in the gym along with all the routines you have through the day. Without weights I don't know what the hell I'd do. A lot of people think that being a professional athlete is easy and it's one of the hardest things to do physically and mentally. When your career ends and that's all you've known your whole life you spin in circles and most end up messed up on boos or drugs to drowned there sorrows. I have the up most respect for anyone out there who has been an addict or alcoholic and turned their life around!!!

 

[forcd]

while that would a good add for kids to watch reality is somewhat different, people die from severe reation to cough medicine....... you we think we are safe taking gear alone then??? no we are not, in the amounts most of us cycle that alone is playing with the fire you mention, would tren mean no coffee because of the thermal effects both have on the body??? or weigth loss thermogenically affecting the body mean no energy drinks or nitric oxide supplements??? i am 100 percent behind you with medication and alcohol, but aas and alcohol, if you dosed at what science and testing has proven to help what the steroid anabolic or not is being administered for i bet alcohol will not create a life orr death situation

 

[stevesmi]

Right on bro that's great to hear!!! It's hard because loved ones try to do whatever they can to help get the person clean but like what Steve said its up to you and you only. I had millions and thought I was set up but my addiction took over after my career was done. The only way to get what I wanted was money so those millions went pretty fucking fast over the course of a few years. You get stuck in the high life and living like a rockstar it's a crazy lifestyle. I know a lot of guys especially athletes that use the gym to help them stay clean. It becomes a way of life in the gym along with all the routines you have through the day. Without weights I don't know what the hell I'd do. A lot of people think that being a professional athlete is easy and it's one of the hardest things to do physically and mentally. When your career ends and that's all you've known your whole life you spin in circles and most end up messed up on boos or drugs to drowned there sorrows. I have the up most respect for anyone out there who has been an addict or alcoholic and turned their life around!!!

without getting too personal may i ask what league you played in? NFL? MLB? how many years?

 

[jjcart11]

No worries MLB. I played for 10yrs total that's including minor leagues as well. It's different with baseball because you have so many different levels before you reach the show 6 to be exact. People say all you guys do is hit a ball and throw but those are the guys that don't understand. 162 regular season games all the training that goes into that and if your like how I played at full speed every game running into walls and running guys over at the plate your bound to blow out. I played as hard as I could and in cost I got hurt a lot and that's what got me started on all the pills and the boos came from the night life

 

[sojoocy]

Good read this thread as I probably had the worst night out last weekend I've ever experienced (mind you I'm meant to be slowing down my going out) got my cycle stored away until I can prove to myself I don't need anything else to have fun and the last thing I want to do is be mid cycle and go on a binge.

 

[CSB]

Very good thread , after being a pro athlete for most of my twenties , I never touched alcohol and always was into the bodybuilding lifestyle from a young age it wasn't my discipline of choice , anyways I stopped that Carreer and at the same time suffered divorce , and somehow I found alcohol and dug a very deep black hole with it for some two years or so

Gym and bodybuilding saved my life , it keeps me focused and away from all that , yes I do have relapses every now and again for a few weeks but they are years apart and I am very thankfully for that and they too are getting much further apart

Wish I could help more people , but as has been mentioned something inside of us needs to switch , to give you that strength to face that first day, and then the second and then the third and until someone finds that catalyst then there is no hope
For the outside world to assist ! I don't look down on those suffering with it as the moment because I know the monumental strength it takes , and I also know that under the influence is not where you want to be but you feel powerless to stop your actions

 

[jjcart11]

That is so true. Either your done or your not only you know that. It's funny I was at the gym with my buddy yesterday and was doing db bench with the 120's. After my last push of going all out everything I had and finishing I had a huge smile on my face and my buddy says" Dude why are you so happy right now?" I responded with I feel like I'm loaded!! The point being that bodybuilding gives me that natural high that I love and has completely replaced the other crap. I still do cycles I just got off of a 10wk Test E 750 cycle that I absolutely loved!! My life is great I wouldn't change any of it. I had to become an addict/alcoholic and lose pretty much everything except my wife and god knows why she stuck around cuz I would've been gone!!! In 31 years I've been to hell and back but my life has never been better. People ask me if my life is boring because I don't drink or use anymore. No it's awesome I still go out with my wife because she's normal she can have just a couple and I sit back and watch how fucking stupid people act when they're messed up

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ yeah man, i can't stop smiling the other day when i was hitting a PR on the bench.

was doing 3 plates and it was light weight. its nice to be able to throw on 315+ and easily nail it a bunch of times while the dude next to me is doing 155.

definately the endorphins and confidence come out with weight training. when i was an endurance athlete and i would cross that finish line after a mean 5K race and set a PR i would have a tremendous high that is undescribable.

 

[jjcart11]

I love that feeling!! The best is when you have those PR days when the weight feels like nothing and everybody seems to stop what there doing to watch you in aww!! What a rush that is and you get extra strength from it!!!