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PGCL--- anyone else onboard?

How many of you also use PGCL to flush out a huge pizza or McDonald's cheat meal before it gets digested? Tomorrow is my cheat day, and I'm wondering about indulging heavily and dumping it out say maybe 1 or 2 hours later? How long does a large meal sit in the stomach until it gets to the intestines? When's the best time to shoot? (Reverse bulemia. Haha!)
 
JUST ORDERED!!

Anyone fancy writing a PGCL handbook for us first timers?

Bring on the prolapse...........
 
taureauchien said:
told about all this benefits on size gain, no sides other than shitting, site injection growth, blah blah blah....
so i figured i'd try it.
it did none of that for me , but it shredded of my bloat within days.
i mean i literally was shitting waste water....which seemed to be gallons at a time, .....doubt it was ,but damn!!!
it was like pissing out my ass, bordering on a gross to much info here i know, but it is what happened to me.
i also have/had a lot of belly fat, and after the first few weeks i was seeing abs.


This has been my overall experience so far.

If you are using it to keep bloat off, you will be extremely happy.
 
I'm 3/4 through one amp. I must say, it is getting much easier the more I use it. I'm doing 25-30mcg split between 2 calves or bi's. This morning I had no diahrea, it just sped up a regular loaf or 2 :) I also don't feel as fatigued afterwards. If my gut is empty, I don't shit at all. I weighed myself today and was amazed to see 192 (started at 200!). I have upped my cardio as I am also cutting while on test/trenbolone, Clenbuterol, and human growth hormone - somatropin - , but this seems like a huge drop in weight since using PGCL.

The diuretic effect makes me thirsty, and I have been drinking large amounts of water, so I believe I am replacing most of the water lost via PGCL. Site growth, if any, is slight. It may be a placebo effect, but my calves look just slightly fuller. Nothing dramatic though.

I read in another thread how one guy would torture his lagging muscle group with PGF2a for 2 weeks right before a cycle, and reported that it caused massive growth in the area when on cycle. If this is true, it might coincide with the rumor that prostaglandins can increase androgen receptor density...! That would be very exciting.

First time users: try only 10-15mcg first shot! 15mcg was very instense for me first time! A lot of guys are barfing, exploding, getting F*'ed up doing 50-80 the first shot. (on other boards)
 
i am 5'10 198 with 19% bf . All of the fat is mostly in my gut. So would PGCL help with that ? or do u recommend GH or igf instead?
 
i seen great reports on PGCL on various boards ..might have to try it soon
 
celica said:
i am 5'10 198 with 19% bf . All of the fat is mostly in my gut. So would PGCL help with that ? or do u recommend gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - or igf instead?

read this entire thread.
3 months ago i was 196 pounds with a lot of belly fat and left over bloat from previous cycles.
i'm now 180 pounds and can see my abs. (been 180 for a month)

shit is amazing.

but as i've said before, dont expect it to give mass size gains. just to suck off what you have to much of.
 
My second day on this stuff and its horrible for me.
Did 2 injections yesterday of 25mg each.
Felt like shit, puked in my mouth a few times, killer gas and of course spent plenty of time on the toilet.

Today I did 2 injections of 50mg each.
Really bad stomach cramps, diarrhea so bad I felt I was shitting my own intestines.

Not tolerating this well.

Will try again tomorrow with the same dosage but if this does not get any better I got 19 amps coming up for sale.

This is some shitty stuff, pun intended :)
 
MorganKane said:
My second day on this stuff and its horrible for me.
Did 2 injections yesterday of 25mg each.
Felt like shit, puked in my mouth a few times, killer gas and of course spent plenty of time on the toilet.

Today I did 2 injections of 50mg each.
Really bad stomach cramps, diarrhea so bad I felt I was shitting my own intestines.

Not tolerating this well.

Will try again tomorrow with the same dosage but if this does not get any better I got 19 amps coming up for sale.

This is some shitty stuff, pun intended :)


you're going the wrong way! when you feel it is too much you reduce the amount not increase it.
damn i'm in my 3rd month and i only do 15 mg.......that makes me shit a horrible demon and then i continue my day.
i felt similar when i tried to much, finding out what my personal dose is.
if you are injecting twice or more a day (ESPECIALLY YOUR FIRST COUPLE DAYS!!) start low man!
try 15. if it just makes you rank and farty, up it to 20.
you already know 25 is to much.

i promise you that if you stay high dose on this in your beginning days.
you will blow an o ring and have the worst hemaroids ever.....go on ask me how i know :worried:
 
taureauchien said:
you're going the wrong way! when you feel it is too much you reduce the amount not increase it.
damn i'm in my 3rd month and i only do 15 mg.......that makes me shit a horrible demon and then i continue my day.
i felt similar when i tried to much, finding out what my personal dose is.
if you are injecting twice or more a day (ESPECIALLY YOUR FIRST COUPLE DAYS!!) start low man!
try 15. if it just makes you rank and farty, up it to 20.
you already know 25 is to much.

i promise you that if you stay high dose on this in your beginning days.
you will blow an o ring and have the worst hemaroids ever.....go on ask me how i know :worried:

So you suggest only to do 15mg a day or a few shots a day.
I think 2 injections a day is all I want to fit in my schedule.

I appreciate the suggestion by the way.
 
MorganKane said:
So you suggest only to do 15mg a day or a few shots a day.
I think 2 injections a day is all I want to fit in my schedule.

I appreciate the suggestion by the way.

each one of my injections are 15.
some days i do 1 some days 2 @ 15 each.
in the biginning i did 3 if i could.
you may want to start at 10 and work your way to 15.
maybe your body is more sensitive to it, but definately pull it back some.

what i did is start low and stopped at the dose that gave me mild cramping with pretty hefty shitting.....15 for me.
this dose once to twice a day dropped 16 pounds off me.
find your sweet spot, it'll take a whole vial to get it right, but you'll have 19 more to become a skeleton.
 
Yes, start low, go slow. It gets easier. I just tried popping 2 immodium caps before I shot this morning, and I shat only once and had no diarrhea at all.
 
After going through 2 amps, I've decided that the localized muscle growth is bunk (for me), and the fat burning is only because of shitting out your food before it gets absorbed. Currently I'm using PGCL only to flush out occasional cheat meals and suppress my appetite, both of which it does a great job of.
 
Mixed up third amp last night, and spilt some on my leg, did not bother to wipe it off. half an hour later, the rumbling in the stomach started, so i knew what was coming.

It appears it was absorbed through the skin. Anyone else found this? If it is, well, that will be mustard!
 
My opinion,not that it matters,is no,no,no,no,..................................look ar Arnold,Dave Draper,Zane,None had this compound then an look at them.............where will this chemical madness stop?



RADAR
 
RADAR said:
My opinion,not that it matters,is no,no,no,no,..................................look ar Arnold,Dave Draper,Zane,None had this compound then an look at them.............where will this chemical madness stop?



RADAR

why stop it radar? if it works and you dont go overboard with it (as with any chemical) why not use it to your advantage.
i'm so glad i did. i dropped a lot of the problem i couldnt get rid of by diets,cardio,clean meals,lotsa water,etc. i tried it all, with very strict attention to detail. granted i would lose weight, but after i got rid of the extra build up in my gut, the dieretic effect kicked in and took off the bloat.
i look and feel great.
i'll never be an arnold,dave,draper, or any of those guys...but thats not my thing. i came here to learn and to try new ways to improve my fat ass. pgcl worked great for me.
no disrespect meant but i dont agree with you on this one.
 
taureauchien said:
why stop it radar? if it works and you dont go overboard with it (as with any chemical) why not use it to your advantage.
i'm so glad i did. i dropped a lot of the problem i couldnt get rid of by diets,cardio,clean meals,lotsa water,etc. i tried it all, with very strict attention to detail. granted i would lose weight, but after i got rid of the extra build up in my gut, the dieretic effect kicked in and took off the bloat.
i look and feel great.
i'll never be an arnold,dave,draper, or any of those guys...but thats not my thing. i came here to learn and to try new ways to improve my fat ass. pgcl worked great for me.
no disrespect meant but i dont agree with you on this one.



Well more power to you.......i guess as i get older (approaching 60 in a few more years)i just learn to be cautious.

:)


RADAR
 
RADAR said:
Well more power to you.......i guess as i get older (approaching 60 in a few more years)i just learn to be cautious.

:)


RADAR

I am not as old as you, hell nobody is as old as you :)
But I just turned 42 and I am so much more aware of the risks now. Long term effects is not talked much about. All the new peptides with almost no research or human study is not for me.

I tried PCGL and the little I used worked but I felt like crap.
This stuff pretty much aborts everything you got in your stomach and I just dont see how thats good for you.

Its almost like sticking your finger down your throat after eating to vomit and only girls does that..

I am still looking for that magic pill that will make me look perfect without dieting, cardio or working out. You got some?
 
MorganKane said:
I am not as old as you, hell nobody is as old as you :)
But I just turned 42 and I am so much more aware of the risks now. Long term effects is not talked much about. All the new peptides with almost no research or human study is not for me.

I tried PCGL and the little I used worked but I felt like crap.
This stuff pretty much aborts everything you got in your stomach and I just dont see how thats good for you.

Its almost like sticking your finger down your throat after eating to vomit and only girls does that..

I am still looking for that magic pill that will make me look perfect without dieting, cardio or working out. You got some?



Sure do...............its called trenbolone

that stuff is wicked, the drawback is that it's rough on your system, i have done 2 cycles of it, the first was trenbolone ace-16wks,.....a rough recovery
8 wks the next time ...recovery was just as difficult as the first.
however, if you want an amazing transformation to your body that burns fat and builds muscle that is the "super"_ compound to go with.






I also want to add this is not a compound for newbies!


so don't even think about it.

RADAR
 
two quick ?'s.....can you use a im pin instead of a slin pin? If so, how much do you use? Is 1/4cc every other day too much?

Just mixthe powderan liquid...Iheard vial should last about a week....true? I assume I could use a regular pin just use about 1/4 the pin and hit the pec, bis, tris, etc...true? 1/4 too much?
 
i guess technically you could use any pin you feel like...its mixed with bac. water.
as far as the every other day thing, i dont know. i would say you're better off with every day injects.
preferably 2-3 a day.
i do 1 morning/early afternoon and 1 at early evening. (2 a day is plenty for me)
as far as a 1/4 cc....again thats up to your body to decide, mainly your pooper.
i say start low and work to the dose that makes you shit without cramping.
or atleast mild cramping.
thats what works best for me on this stuff, but everyone is different.
 
td1111 said:
I did 25mcg three times today. It seems that the body gets more used to it after the first couple of doses. My biggest problem is fatigue. I had to nap for 2 hours this evening. I hope it gets easier. I'm rotating between biceps and calf IM injects.

Also, I find that by eating light, or liquids only, and by injecting prior to eating, I don't shit at all, except in the mornings as I usually have a nice proper dinner. I will try using immodium prior to injects, as others have reported reduced sides and diarrhea.

Also! Baby wipes are a godsend for preserving your ass :artist:
Damn, Ithink Im done with PGCL.......it's not the diareahea which I expected....it's the nasuea that makes me feel like puking most of the day...not even using much at all....less than 1/4 cc yesterday was pec and ths am was stomach......I got a ton left too...sucks.....
 
seriously......today was day 3 nd I had the cramps pretty bad for id say 3-4 hours, not nonstop of course, but no nasua...I am using a regular pin, going 1/2 inch in and so far I've gone stomach, tris and pec.....I am about 7% right now and need a good 30lbs, just wanted to see what it did physcially, so for now I am dirty bulking somewhat as long as I know I go that in my back packetand anavar.....I will just try and stay under 12%.....I'm sure I'll jump to 10% quickly as you know, when you are low the body stores fat quickly....I need the mass though.
 
sounds like your dose is to high.
also....if your trying to bulk and gain mass, then why are you taking pgcl?
especially if you're only 7% bf.
eating dirty is only going to give you more to shit.
stop taking it and eat clean with some good bulkers.
 
JKurz1 said:
seriously......today was day 3 nd I had the cramps pretty bad for id say 3-4 hours, not nonstop of course, but no nasua...I am using a regular pin, going 1/2 inch in and so far I've gone stomach, tris and pec.....I am about 7% right now and need a good 30lbs, just wanted to see what it did physcially, so for now I am dirty bulking somewhat as long as I know I go that in my back packetand anavar.....I will just try and stay under 12%.....I'm sure I'll jump to 10% quickly as you know, when you are low the body stores fat quickly....I need the mass though.


you need help
 
taureauchien said:
sounds like your dose is to high.
also....if your trying to bulk and gain mass, then why are you taking pgcl?
especially if you're only 7% bf.
eating dirty is only going to give you more to shit.
stop taking it and eat clean with some good bulkers.
IT was a three day "test" I'm saving it for precomp...prob. 8-10 months
 
hey do u guys think hgh will hold my muscle on pgcl cylce or it needs to be done on a gear cycle?
 
^^ hey georgie what happened to your pgcl log? yea im on growth right now .. prob starting pgcl next week .. wonderin if the gh will hold muscle
 
hurricane187 said:
hey do u guys think human growth hormone - somatropin - will hold my muscle on pgcl cylce or it needs to be done on a gear cycle?


well, depends, we take the gear while using pgcl to prevent wasting, or rather muscle starvation..
 
SpyWizard said:
well, depends, we take the gear while using pgcl to prevent wasting, or rather muscle starvation..
yes bro i feel u on that .. but my question is wouldnt the hgh prevent the muscle waisting also ? askin cause im on hgh right now ..thanks
 
hurricane187 said:
yes bro i feel u on that .. but my question is wouldnt the human growth hormone - somatropin - prevent the muscle waisting also ? askin cause im on human growth hormone - somatropin - right now ..thanks


that's ok.. i always run a cycle at the same time with gh.. so i can't say if it would work with just the gh..

i know that just with anavar, that is not enough to stop wasting... hope that helps..

4iu ed 5/2
 
yea thanks bro .. i guess ill have to see myself .. sides are to much from what i read really dont want it to ruin my cycle comming up
 
uncle-jimmy said:
This stuff is crap feels the same as lasix


really?? i've never run lasix, I might have to give that a try..

I have the PGCL -- but it's not my 1st run with it, it gives results as expected, it allows a person to enter into a catabolic state due to lack of nutrition (crapping raw food will do that to you) so it's always recommended that you be using something that will keep you from becoming catabilic..

Good times..
 
SpyWizard said:
really?? i've never run lasix, I might have to give that a try..

I have the PGCL -- but it's not my 1st run with it, it gives results as expected, it allows a person to enter into a catabolic state due to lack of nutrition (crapping raw food will do that to you) so it's always recommended that you be using something that will keep you from becoming catabilic..

Good times..

Diuretic bro all this shit is
 
So it is a contest prep thing...

Does it flatten muscles the same as lasix? Not much info on this.
 
str8nubin said:
So it is a contest prep thing...

Does it flatten muscles the same as lasix? Not much info on this.


can't say.. this is my 3rd run with PGCL.. i've never used Lasix, so i wouldn't venture an opinion in regards to comparing them..
 
Just got my 10 amps and looking for some insight:

How many cc's of water to mix with each amp of powder?

What have you found the most effective dosage:
Per shot
Shots per day
When taken

Shot taken IM or sub?

Thanks bros!
 
i think its 2 cc's per amp .. double check cause its been months since i used .
u can do either im or sub.. some report better results from im ..
i really dont like this stuff to be honest .. wont use again
 
PGCL will only come in 500 MCG
Say you add 1ML of BW that will leave you with
500 MCG/1mL:
5 MCG per IU(1 mark on slin)
50 MCG per 10IU(10 mark on slin)
and so on
Now 2ML of BA is more common
So that case will leave you with
250 MCG/1mL:
2.5 MCG per IU(1 mark on slin)
25 MCG per 10IU(10 mark on slin)
and so on
 
Great for water loss. It will clean out your system, too. I mean it will FLUSH you out, RIGHT NOW. I felt like it didn't necessarily eliminate fat, but it didn't allow the food in your system to fully digest. Kinda like purging. So it would contribute to calorie reduction. It will really tear up your system, if you know what I mean. There's a reason why women are recomended NOT to use this. I will probably only use it again, short term, to lose that last little bit of water weight, to dry up.
 
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