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Pet help - Dog with intense unrelenting itching

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nefertiti

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So, first and foremost - this is my roommate's dog, not mine. If it were mine I would have brought her to the vet months ago and I have implored him time and time again that she needs to see the vet. He is in complete denial and thinks she just has dry skin and needs better doggy conditioner.

For a couple of months it was sort of amusing. She has one spot that itches right by her tail worse than anything. It's near that spot most dogs go weak kneed when you scratch, by the base of the tail, but five or six inches up the back from there. She would lean against you and all but demand you scratch her there.

So it WAS kinda funny...till I noticed a big, thick scab that hadn't been there....she basically found something to rub herself against and rubbed the area so hard that she rubbed all her hair off (or there is a hair loss from something underlying) and rubbed the skin raw. Then last week I noticed the spot was bloody and raw - she had rubbed the scab off. We found what she was rubbing against (the bottom of a folded ping pong table in the garage) and moved it to where she couldn't get at it, but since then I found a new scab and then she had rubbed it off again somehow.

This poor dog looks completely miserable, and my roommate is delusional. I bought some hydrocortisone spray at the store today as well as benadene which supposedly helps with staphylococcus (which is what I think she's got) and I'm going to try and use it later today.

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Any thoughts/suggestions beyond my attempted storebought rescue? I can't stand to see this furball suffer any longer.
 
miplank said:
Just take the dog to the vet and bill it to roomy.
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It may come to that....but I'm looking for possible peaceful alternatives before I fuck around with a friendship and living situation that's really good for me at the moment.
 
Would this guy really get that pissed over you taken care of his pet that obviously has a problem? Scratching is one thing, but an open wound is another.
 
miplank said:
Would this guy really get that pissed over you taken care of his pet that obviously has a problem? Scratching is one thing, but an open wound is another.
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He's not declining to take her for lack of time....he's between movies right now and currently sleeping in his bedroom, or having sex with his gf lol (who knows, the door is shut). He loves his dogs to death, so it's not that he just doesn't care either....but yeah, he'd get pissed if I just took her there after he told me twice in the last week that he doesn't think she needs it. He's possessive with them and got touchy about it when both bonded really closely with me after I first moved in.

So frustrating....I can't understand how someone can see their pet scratch themselves bloody and not want to do everything in the world to make it stop.
 
miplank said:
it's clear to me that you and the gf need to gang up on him.
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I tried that angle too...but he was in the room so I couldn't really conspire with her about it. But next time she's here and he isn't, or he's sleeping, I'm definitely pulling her aside.
 
My dog had a similar situation. She would scratch herself non stop. It never got that bad but she didn't have anything to rub against. Just her nails which are kept short. It turns out it was a food allergy. I did some work for a dog food company and mentioned it. He gave me a hypoallergenic vegetarian food. The protein was made up of potato and other vegetables. No meat at all. Within a few days she was like a whole new dog. No more scratching. It may be a long shot but if moneys an issue, a new bag of dog food will be cheaper than the vet.
 
Roommate and gf left, so I gently washed the sore, trimmed the fur around it, and applied the benadene. Broke my heart how patient she was with me, even though I know it had to sting a little, she sat perfectly still until I told her it was ok to move. She's such a good pup :(
 
nimbus said:
is the spot warm?
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Huh, didn't think to note that. I didn't touch it except to wash it, so I don't know...I'll check once the stuff I put on there is absorbed. If it is warm, I will put my foot down about the vet business.
 
It looks like a hot spot which can be caused by any number of things. I think it happens a lot in light skinned dogs for some reason. My samoyed/golden cross used to get those, (although they were not itchy).
You're doing the right thing by keeping it clean, but a visit to the vet is in order to determine the cause. Does he brush the dog? Matted hair can cause irritation. So can bug bites. The vet used to shave a patch of hair off of my dogs hot spots so they could heal.
 
the open wound needs to be addressed...and that will likely require a vet trip...but things like betadine are safe for dogs, as is hydrocortisone

I'd put money on the dog has a food allergy though as the underlying problem...and even more money a vet won't diagnose it as such...though theres a common parasite that dogs get that requires an ivermectin shot with follow up with an antifungal shampoo

my exes dog is allergic to like 9 different common pet food ingredients and his initial reaction is always dry itchy skin and a friend of mine has a huge kennel that has a cpl of dogs with food allergies..also resulting in dry itchy skin...corn is a really common culprit
theres about a million different dog foods out there that are good for this...a duck and potato blend is the most common and can be found at places like petco
I'd recommend flint river ranch tho....all of my dogs really did amazing on the stuff, from a pitt with sugar problems(beets added to dog food) to a jack with urinary stones..
you can buy it online and its delivered to your door (only way to get it)..the stuff seems expensive until you realize they eat half as much of the stuff and just get great even energy levels/moods, really incredible coats/eyes etc and amazing lean muscle tone


or you know...ignore me and make a shitty comment (chris/plank)
 
My only thing telling me its not a food thing is that he has used the same food forever and molly only got itchy in the last 4/5 months with it getting worse as time went on (she is about seven years old I guess). Am I wrong? Can dogs become allergic over time?

Next time I see him I'll try the "open wound - infection possibility" route to get him to take her. Right now it's scabbed over again, but who knows how long it will last or if the stuff I got will provide enough relief for her not to try and rub it off again.
 
Animals can develop allergies over time. Actually, what usually is happening is they've always had a low grade intolerance to the food/object/product (they can get dermatitis from household cleaners or even seasonally from the environment, like humans get hayfever). When they're younger their immune systems take care of the problem or the intolerance manifests in more subtle ways (like with food, out of the blue the dog gets diarrhea or vomits, or is just gassy all the time). When animals get older, just like us, the little things start taking a harder toll and seven is solidly middle aged for a dog. Unbalanced diets are the most likely culprit because a lot of people generally cheap out on pet food and virtually never read the label. Dietary deficiencies can actually build up over time, and manifest in a lot of weird ways, but the condition of the skin/hair/coat/teeth always show an animal's general health state.

Honestly, if he loves his dog to death you'd think he would care if it's got a hole in it!
 
Atta girl



shirlene29 said:
the open wound needs to be addressed...and that will likely require a vet trip...but things like betadine are safe for dogs, as is hydrocortisone

I'd put money on the dog has a food allergy though as the underlying problem...and even more money a vet won't diagnose it as such...though theres a common parasite that dogs get that requires an ivermectin shot with follow up with an antifungal shampoo

my exes dog is allergic to like 9 different common pet food ingredients and his initial reaction is always dry itchy skin and a friend of mine has a huge kennel that has a cpl of dogs with food allergies..also resulting in dry itchy skin...corn is a really common culprit
theres about a million different dog foods out there that are good for this...a duck and potato blend is the most common and can be found at places like petco
I'd recommend flint river ranch tho....all of my dogs really did amazing on the stuff, from a pitt with sugar problems(beets added to dog food) to a jack with urinary stones..
you can buy it online and its delivered to your door (only way to get it)..the stuff seems expensive until you realize they eat half as much of the stuff and just get great even energy levels/moods, really incredible coats/eyes etc and amazing lean muscle tone


or you know...ignore me and make a shitty comment (chris/plank)
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musclemom said:
Honestly, if he loves his dog to death you'd think he would care if it's got a hole in it!
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Sigh. I know he loves her, he is just stubborn to a fault. She seems to be resting comfortably by my bed right now, but I'm definitely going to look into hypoalergenic food the next time I'm running errands.
 
Clearly you and I are roommates and didnt know....

My french bulldog has the EXACT same problem, we took her to the vet and he billed us $250 to test for mange, give her antibiotics and prednisone and she's still itchy (no open wound though) we changed her dog food and same issue happens, he told us he can do a full allergy panel for $300 to see if she is allergic to something particular, that will have to be our next step.

We had tried those anti itch sprays but they did nothing for her..... clothing seems to sooth her and her desire to each,I've heard thunder shirts are good but it's too hot here to try that for her... they are 100% money back guaranteed.

The dog may be anxious, our DR told us our Onix has OCD and gave her anxiety pills.... seems anxiety can cause it so make sure he is relaxed and walked, what breed is he?
 
nefertiti said:
My only thing telling me its not a food thing is that he has used the same food forever and molly only got itchy in the last 4/5 months with it getting worse as time went on (she is about seven years old I guess). Am I wrong? Can dogs become allergic over time?

Next time I see him I'll try the "open wound - infection possibility" route to get him to take her. Right now it's scabbed over again, but who knows how long it will last or if the stuff I got will provide enough relief for her not to try and rub it off again.
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I had my dog on the same adult food from when she was 1-3. It started getting really bad in her 3rd year, by about 3 and a half I switched the food to a duck/potato hypoallergenic blend and shes now 4 and a half and doing great. It's worth a shot if your room mate won't take her to the vet.
 
nefertiti said:
Sigh. I know he loves her, he is just stubborn to a fault. She seems to be resting comfortably by my bed right now, but I'm definitely going to look into hypoalergenic food the next time I'm running errands.
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You can't just go by the label for hypoallergenic. You do want to read the label. Honestly, if the first one or two ingredients aren't MEAT (not byproducts) then walk away. If there is ANY wheat or corn or their glutens listed AT ALL, walk away. After that, follow the same as you'd feed yourself, if you can't pronounce it, don't eat it (well, up to a point, the rule drops off when it gets to the lower part of the ingredient list where they're listing vitamins and supplements, the less than 2% bit).

You're best bet is something like a lamb and rice, or something with potatoes.

I can vouch for a food brand Innova which I know is now carried at Pet-- (smart? Co? Can't remember)
 
I tried to get my dog to eat the Blue Buffalo sweet potato and duck kibble, but he wouldn't touch it.. 70 $/bag and I had to just throw it out.
 
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