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dallascowboys25

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just wondering if friends, family, or co-workers noticed a difference or said any comments after your first cycle? If so what did you say to them? Did you lie about juicing. Also what was your first cycle?
I haven't done a cycle yet but was just wondering if people are going to know
 
In the words of Ronnie the jersey shore juicing douchebag: DENY DENY DENY lol. I've only told a FEW close friends, mainly in case lord forbid anything ever happened..

I think it depends on where you start. I've always been naturally built so when I got bigger it wasn't difficult convincing people I just stepped up my game
 
My family knew something was up. And a few guys at the gym im sure knew, even tho they never asked, they know whats up.

I felt kind of bad about the family. My mom says"Your dad and his friend think that your on steroids because your getting so huge. But I told them that your not like that and you just work hard and you wouldnt do steroids. RIGHT?."

I say."Uh actually I am." she immediatly gasps for air like she was so shocked. lmao I dont have anything to hide from my family. I never would of brought it up and volunteered the info, but she asked me a direct questions.

I told my parents that I was doing it for the EF contest. And that I have researched for YEARS. I know all about the risks and how to do it properly to minimize those risks. I then had my mom watch Bigger Faster Stronger. She isnt too opposed now. She knows that I want to compete and this is what I have to do to be competitive at higher levels.

My first cycle was an Original Dieselbolan kickstart along with 500mg/test e per week for 9 or 10 weeks I think. Went from 190 to 218 at the biggest. About 6 months after PCT I kept a little north of 10 pounds but still look like a different person. It just "matured" my body I guess you can say. Noticable thickness stayed with me.

week 4 of cycle # 2 right now and weighing in at 220 with significantly less bloat than when on the diesel
 
I was lucky I was out of the country for almost 2 years and most people had not seen me. When they did again they were like HOLY*#*% you got bigger. My response was yeah since I was turning 40 I hit the gym like a madman so I would feel younger, hahahhaa. I dont think I had any accusations, luckily. I was introduced to test through TRT by my doctor, and like a snowball going down a hill, well Mikey lik
 
I'm hoping because its winter and I were sweatshirts that people won't be able to tell when I do my first cycle.

why do you care? If anyone says anything or asks you and you dont want them to know....DONT TELL THEM?

I dont care what people THINK they know. And I dont care if people think Im on steroids.

for 1, I am.

for 2, most people dont know shit about em, so let em think whatever misconception they have in there pebble brain

for 3, I look better than 99.9% of the people in my gym so cool, Im on steroids and I look fuckin awesome. whatever

Even if your not on steroids but you have a nice body or you LOOK like you might be on steroids. People will assume you are because there jealous and assume you took an easy route. Let the haters hate
 
Good luck. With the first cycle I think the changes will be huge and very noticeable, but in my opinion thats a good thing!

Go Cowboys! Fan since 1981
 
just wondering if friends, family, or co-workers noticed a difference or said any comments after your first cycle? If so what did you say to them? Did you lie about juicing. Also what was your first cycle?
I haven't done a cycle yet but was just wondering if people are going to know

This was MANY years ago but I remember my mothers reaction after she seen my after my 1st cycle.
She couldnt beleive the size I had put on after being such a skinny kid for years.
 
why do you care? If anyone says anything or asks you and you dont want them to know....DONT TELL THEM?

I dont care what people THINK they know. And I dont care if people think Im on steroids.

for 1, I am.

for 2, most people dont know shit about em, so let em think whatever misconception they have in there pebble brain

for 3, I look better than 99.9% of the people in my gym so cool, Im on steroids and I look fuckin awesome. whatever

Even if your not on steroids but you have a nice body or you LOOK like you might be on steroids. People will assume you are because there jealous and assume you took an easy route. Let the haters hate
yea your rite man I don't really care. People are going to hate no mater what.
 
my first cycle was the best of 'em all :D (obviously as the difference is just amazing)
All I did was 10weeks of test E 500mg/wk . Gained 30lbs, retained 20 of those. Everyone knew what was up tho but no one ever asked me so I didn't even have a chance to deny it :D
 
Taking juice is like taking ecstasy- the first time will always be the best. Don't fuck it up. I got test flu about week 9 on my first go and just completely quit when my gains were at theyre peak. God I wish I could have a redo
 
Have gained 30kg (no typo) of mass in the last year and that is after running a cutting cycle recently. The number of comments people made has been ridiculous. When they ask what I'm taking, I just reply "Creatine bro.. just creatine." Kinda do it to take the piss now but it discourages further questions.
 
Was currently on Dbol 20mg a day

Had a few people approach me asking if i was on something, just told them I improved my diet and fixed my training.

Only told 3 close mates, even people at work started asking me and i said no straight up. No more questions after that
 
Was currently on Dbol 20mg a day

Had a few people approach me asking if i was on something, just told them I improved my diet and fixed my training.

Only told 3 close mates, even people at work started asking me and i said no straight up. No more questions after that

It's funny when they ask you thinking you'll admit to it. Yeah I smoke weed or snort coke. Same principal, all are illegal. Even though juice shouldn't be. Well for some people it should but that's a whole different subject. but the people asking if your on gear usually view steroids as a hardcore drug anyways. Creatine is my story (& Mark McGuires) lol
 
All my family and my mrs noticed my spontaneous increase in size and strength when i ran my beast only cycle. I'm like a new man now. I was even quizzed at work about my sudden increase in size and reminded that illegal substances will be routinely tested for (though i know anabolic steroids are not on that list)

But i turned some heads for sure. Still do as im still on cycle lol :D
 
I was even quizzed at work about my sudden increase in size and reminded that illegal substances will be routinely tested for lol :D

Wow what fucking nerve to say that to someone out of the blue. And what ignorance to assume.

You probably shrugged it off but I dont think I could have not went the fuck off at that kind of comment.
 
My first cycle was test e at 500 mgs a week. People notice and ask what your on I just say I eat my veggies and take protein shakes hahha. My close friends and family know so I dont care what people think. They might suspect it but its not like steroids are the reason I am strong and big. I worked my ass off naturally for 5 years before I ever juiced so I already had some decent size and strength. If your going to juice do your homework and fuck what everyone else thinks its your choice to make.

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If you deny steroid use and people find out you will get burnt... There was this dude at my gym, i could easily tell he juiced, very obvious and i asked him many time do you take anything and he denied it everytime, now that everyone found out that he use, i have never seen him again in this gym, he got owned big time, lmao.. If you use steroid at my gym you'll be labeld a coward pussy, i dont care if ppl do it but others do.
The best option would be to take small amounts so people wont find out, i lose respect for dudes who juice and denies it.. If you use then man up and tell everyone that you juicing theres nothing wrong with that..
 
If you deny steroid use and people find out you will get burnt... There was this dude at my gym, i could easily tell he juiced, very obvious and i asked him many time do you take anything and he denied it everytime, now that everyone found out that he use, i have never seen him again in this gym, he got owned big time, lmao.. If you use steroid at my gym you'll be labeld a coward pussy, i dont care if ppl do it but others do.
The best option would be to take small amounts so people wont find out, i lose respect for dudes who juice and denies it.. If you use then man up and tell everyone that you juicing theres nothing wrong with that..

1. How would anyone "find out" unless he told them

2. It's no ones damn business to begin with

3. The guys hating on him would get their asses beat real quick. They need to be worrying about themselves and no one else.

4. He doesn't need to "man up" and tell everyone he's doing something illegal.

I'm sorry but you sound like a moron. What he does isn't your concern or business. I woulda left that fucking gym too. Sounds more like the view to me. Bunch of ladies sitting around gossiping instead of hitting the weights.
 
It's funny when they ask you thinking you'll admit to it. Yeah I smoke weed or snort coke. Same principal, all are illegal. Even though juice shouldn't be. Well for some people it should but that's a whole different subject. but the people asking if your on gear usually view steroids as a hardcore drug anyways. Creatine is my story (& Mark McGuires) lol

please do not talk about rec drugs on here. you can on C&C but not here.
thanks

and no steroids are not hardcore drugs.. we don't take them to get high, we take them as performance enhancing. I don't know of anyone who views them as anything other than that.
 
I was trying to make the point that in most people that don't know alot about them view them as being as bad as rec drugs. And look down upon users in the same way
 
^^^ I feel your pain but its my job to enforce the rules.. we don't discuss rec drugs period. this is a fitness site. people PM me upset that things like this get talked about and then get on my ass for not enforcing these simple rules, so i end up being a jerk cause I am too nice to people or I am a jerk for enforcing rules.

you mentioned it twice in this thread. please do not do it again even if its meant as comparing or as a joke.. you can talk about it on C&C but not here. that is all :)
 
Sadly juiceismyfriend is right.. the general public is so misinformed when it comes to steroids.. a huge number believes steroids to be right there along hard drugs

(I didnt actually name the drugs so this is fine im guessing?)
 
A few weeks into my cycle I had EVERYBODY asking what shit I was on. They all knew something was up and would pass comments all day long. Well, they used to joke about it even before I did anything because I was one of the few guys who started weight lifting at 15 and by 17 had decent biceps and traps and such. So people would always pass comments but more in a joking manner. Once I actually hit the juice, everyone was coming up to me asking what I'm using. Well it was even worse on my second cycle because I cut up and used EQ and winny so the veins and striations started coming out. It's a look only AAS can give you so its hard to deny it. But like someone on the 1st page said, DENY DENY DENY. I never tell anybody what I do. If they ask I give them this whole elaborate diet plan and give them some BS workout schedule where I hit the weights 3 hours a day 7 days a week lol. It's unfortunate because I don't like to lie. But you never know who is in law enforcement and who has a big mouth.
 
1. How would anyone "find out" unless he told them

2. It's no ones damn business to begin with

3. The guys hating on him would get their asses beat real quick. They need to be worrying about themselves and no one else.

4. He doesn't need to "man up" and tell everyone he's doing something illegal.

I'm sorry but you sound like a moron. What he does isn't your concern or business. I woulda left that fucking gym too. Sounds more like the view to me. Bunch of ladies sitting around gossiping instead of hitting the weights.

^^^^ this
 
Have gained 30kg (no typo) of mass in the last year and that is after running a cutting cycle recently. The number of comments people made has been ridiculous. When they ask what I'm taking, I just reply "Creatine bro.. just creatine." Kinda do it to take the piss now but it discourages further questions.

Lol creatine gets a lot of sales on that old one :D
 
Believe me, ppl will ask you. I did 250 of test for 8 weeks and made nice gains on that. I had been in the gym for years before it. Ppl asked me and cycles later ppl still ask.
Eat, busting my ass in the gym and sleep is my answer!
 
A few weeks into my cycle I had EVERYBODY asking what shit I was on. They all knew something was up and would pass comments all day long. Well, they used to joke about it even before I did anything because I was one of the few guys who started weight lifting at 15 and by 17 had decent biceps and traps and such. So people would always pass comments but more in a joking manner. Once I actually hit the juice, everyone was coming up to me asking what I'm using. Well it was even worse on my second cycle because I cut up and used EQ and winny so the veins and striations started coming out. It's a look only AAS can give you so its hard to deny it. But like someone on the 1st page said, DENY DENY DENY. I never tell anybody what I do. If they ask I give them this whole elaborate diet plan and give them some BS workout schedule where I hit the weights 3 hours a day 7 days a week lol. It's unfortunate because I don't like to lie. But you never know who is in law enforcement and who has a big mouth.
you know that's funny cuz before I started reading about aas I proabley would have believed you and quit my job so I could spent 8 hrs a day 7 days a week in the gym. I use to think the guys in the muscle mags were all natural 2
 
Believe me, ppl will ask you. I did 250 of test for 8 weeks and made nice gains on that. I had been in the gym for years before it. Ppl asked me and cycles later ppl still ask.
Eat, busting my ass in the gym and sleep is my answer!

what test was it and was 250 sufficient for you. just wondering cuz I don't know if I want to do 250 or just say f**K it and go for 500 because I hear people say your first cycle is the best
 
what test was it and was 250 sufficient for you. just wondering cuz I don't know if I want to do 250 or just say f**K it and go for 500 because I hear people say your first cycle is the best
I did 250 test E and 200 deca...like 9 weeks...made tremendous gains. I personally feel you should add another compound in the mix. Maybe like a little bit of EQ or at least an oral kickstart. But everything very low minimal doses. You should grow like a weed.
 
I did 250 test E and 200 deca...like 9 weeks...made tremendous gains. I personally feel you should add another compound in the mix. Maybe like a little bit of EQ or at least an oral kickstart. But everything very low minimal doses. You should grow like a weed.
what would u think about winny
Eh
 
what about ppl thinking I'm on gear while I'm not? does this count ? lol I think even few ppl here on EF thought I was when I first posted pics.

but well I guess no body would notice me really but my family I put weight very easy so naturally I look bigger than I'm now. and well most ppl in here are on juice anyway so they don't care but it's different here since it's legal.
 
what about ppl thinking I'm on gear while I'm not? does this count ? lol I think even few ppl here on EF thought I was when I first posted pics.

but well I guess no body would notice me really but my family I put weight very easy so naturally I look bigger than I'm now. and well most ppl in here are on juice anyway so they don't care but it's different here since it's legal.

Good for you bro, im the same ppl accuse me of juicing but im natural, defiantly not as ripped as you but i still get accused, bunch of jealous fucks..
Do not juice bro, since you've came this far without roids you will be much better without them, if you juice you'll ruin your image forever, it doesnt matter how big and how cut you get, or if you can bench press 600lb raw with steroids people will lose respect no matter how far you go even if you bust your ass.. Its much harder to bench 350 natural then 500 with juice..
 
Good for you bro, im the same ppl accuse me of juicing but im natural, defiantly not as ripped as you but i still get accused, bunch of jealous fucks..
Do not juice bro, since you've came this far without roids you will be much better without them, if you juice you'll ruin your image forever, it doesnt matter how big and how cut you get, or if you can bench press 600lb raw with steroids people will lose respect no matter how far you go even if you bust your ass.. Its much harder to bench 350 natural then 500 with juice..

what? lmao according to who?

I would much rather be a huge, yoked, juiced out mother fucker than be small and weak(natural). The people that look down on you because of your steroid use are most likely the same people that believe everything they see on the news and media about steroid use. ie...make your dick small, stupid shit like that.

Steroids take you to the NEXT LEVEL. plain and simple. And im not going to cut my potential short just so I dont have people looking down on me because I juice. I honestly dont give a fuck what people think.

there just mad cuz there gf's are staring at me instead of them. Let the haters hate.

crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of there women. lmao
 
Good for you bro, im the same ppl accuse me of juicing but im natural, defiantly not as ripped as you but i still get accused, bunch of jealous fucks..
Do not juice bro, since you've came this far without roids you will be much better without them, if you juice you'll ruin your image forever, it doesnt matter how big and how cut you get, or if you can bench press 600lb raw with steroids people will lose respect no matter how far you go even if you bust your ass.. Its much harder to bench 350 natural then 500 with juice..


I disagree with this too.

If you've came this far WITHOUT steroids, than you will be MUCH BETTER WITH THEM!!!

the person that puts in the time and work to know there body some and build a decent foundation will benefit much more than someone new to the game
 
what? lmao according to who?

I would much rather be a huge, yoked, juiced out mother fucker than be small and weak(natural). The people that look down on you because of your steroid use are most likely the same people that believe everything they see on the news and media about steroid use. ie...make your dick small, stupid shit like that.

Steroids take you to the NEXT LEVEL. plain and simple. And im not going to cut my potential short just so I dont have people looking down on me because I juice. I honestly dont give a fuck what people think.

there just mad cuz there gf's are staring at me instead of them. Let the haters hate.

crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of there women. lmao

Ey, i agree bro, I was talking about how society look upon juicer, i dont care what people do, you want to smoke crack go ahead you want to needle up go ahead..
My opinion is if you take steroids for vanity is fuking stupid, if its for personal use or competition thats cool..
 
Ey, i agree bro, I was talking about how society look upon juicer, i dont care what people do, you want to smoke crack go ahead you want to needle up go ahead..
My opinion is if you take steroids for vanity is fuking stupid, if its for personal use or competition thats cool..

ya I get you.

But you gotta think too thou. Like 99% of the people using steroids are your everyday gym rat doing it for you guessed it.....vanity reasons.

but I know what your saying.
 
For me 500 with juice be way harder benched 350 in high school I don't see a reason not too if want to. And no one really noticed my first lol put on 20 lbs though
 
"Its much harder to bench 350 natural then 500 with juice.."

You took your arguement a little to far with that comment.. That is totally inaccurate
 
what test was it and was 250 sufficient for you. just wondering cuz I don't know if I want to do 250 or just say f**K it and go for 500 because I hear people say your first cycle is the best

It was Test E. I wanted to start off slow and I had no sides from it . Most ppl here will tell ya its too low of a dose but man I made some great gains on that! Good luck and have fun!
 
Good for you bro, im the same ppl accuse me of juicing but im natural, defiantly not as ripped as you but i still get accused, bunch of jealous fucks..
Do not juice bro, since you've came this far without roids you will be much better without them, if you juice you'll ruin your image forever, it doesnt matter how big and how cut you get, or if you can bench press 600lb raw with steroids people will lose respect no matter how far you go even if you bust your ass.. Its much harder to bench 350 natural then 500 with juice..


I dont really care about what other ppl think. I only held back from using until I get enough knowledge.

haters will always find excuses be it blaming their failure to your genetics or using steroids.
 
Why would gear make it easier to bench anything?
Its not the gear that lifts the weight...its your discipline busting your ass in the gym, and eating right.
Joe casual wont gain anything from gear...it doesnt lift the weight..
Learned a long time ago from few BB friends that this is fact...it always pissed them off that people gave the gear credit and dismissed the idea that their hard work was what got them to their level. Do gear users have an advantage....the answer is obvious to me...yes ..IF they put the effort in....In No Way am I intending that as a slam on natural....Ive gotten a ton of great advice here from REAL people, and I conclude that to a "certain extent" two guys with same build/size/effort will reach a point of mass that their diet and training etc. will allow...just the guy not on gear will take longer to get there... Another thing I have learned is that if youre not putting it all together with optimal effort..diet/training/recovery etc. you wont be much better after gear...Its changed my thoughts from "I wanna get on some gear to catch up" to "I wanna do this right, cause im not just wanting to look good for the summer, im looking at long term as a lifestyle" Just my noob thoughts...Please check me and give me the knowledge if Im way off base....NO Disrespect intended in any way.

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Wow what fucking nerve to say that to someone out of the blue. And what ignorance to assume.

You probably shrugged it off but I dont think I could have not went the fuck off at that kind of comment.
That's the line i took as well. I said what are you suggesting. I never abuse substances and all that malarky, and that i have just been eating right and training and they are being very presumptuous accusing me of such things.

What i wanted to say is "you better watch yourself, cos i've just dropped 20mgs of Beastdrol and i feel like i could decapitate a grown man with one hand at the moment, so watch your damn mouth" LOL
 
just wondering if friends, family, or co-workers noticed a difference or said any comments after your first cycle? If so what did you say to them? Did you lie about juicing. Also what was your first cycle?
I haven't done a cycle yet but was just wondering if people are going to know

if u do your 1st cycle correctly.. they will notice without a doubt.. unless u do some dipshit cycle that makes so sense

i was never shy about it,so i really didnt care about people in the streets/co workers/friends or what they thought .My family i lied to and told them i was working out like a beast and eating like a horse.:artist:
 
Why would gear make it easier to bench anything?
Its not the gear that lifts the weight...its your discipline busting your ass in the gym, and eating right.
Joe casual wont gain anything from gear...it doesnt lift the weight..
Learned a long time ago from few BB friends that this is fact...it always pissed them off that people gave the gear credit and dismissed the idea that their hard work was what got them to their level. Do gear users have an advantage....the answer is obvious to me...yes ..IF they put the effort in....In No Way am I intending that as a slam on natural....Ive gotten a ton of great advice here from REAL people, and I conclude that to a "certain extent" two guys with same build/size/effort will reach a point of mass that their diet and training etc. will allow...just the guy not on gear will take longer to get there... Another thing I have learned is that if youre not putting it all together with optimal effort..diet/training/recovery etc. you wont be much better after gear...Its changed my thoughts from "I wanna get on some gear to catch up" to "I wanna do this right, cause im not just wanting to look good for the summer, im looking at long term as a lifestyle" Just my noob thoughts...Please check me and give me the knowledge if Im way off base....NO Disrespect intended in any way.

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Im not here here to argue bro, because you have a valid point, but honestly do you think steroids will not give you strength gains without proper diet, i have proof that it does..
I had a friend who was stuck at 275x4 for a few month on bench, after he got on 50mg dbol his bench skyrocketed to 325x5 in only 2 month, his diet?? breakfast creal, lunch sandwich, dinner anything in the house or fast food, Thats it, probably 1500cal a day, His discipline was ok in training, he wasnt showing up much in the gym except for his bench press.
Thats not his hard work thats the steroids hard work because it allowed him to break his platue rapidly, and thats only with 50mg dbol, i would gurantee a 405x1 if he were to stack it with more roids..

But i do get your point about long term goals, he was looking for a shortcut.. i just wanted to say you dont have to be disciplined to get strong with roids, more juice more results..
 
A few of my buddies nagged me about it when they noticed a sudden increase in size... but I never told them.. my mom was like dang you sure have put on some lbs... only a couple close buddies knew I was on juice and it will stay that way when I run my 2nd cycle. I ran 250mg Test E for 10 weeks and had great results, should've had a better PCT and I would've kept more than I did. Can't wait for my 2nd cycle this spring. I don't care if people think they know, they don't and I'm not going to tell them.
 
Im not here here to argue bro, because you have a valid point, but honestly do you think steroids will not give you strength gains without proper diet, i have proof that it does..
I had a friend who was stuck at 275x4 for a few month on bench, after he got on 50mg dbol his bench skyrocketed to 325x5 in only 2 month, his diet?? breakfast creal, lunch sandwich, dinner anything in the house or fast food, Thats it, probably 1500cal a day, His discipline was ok in training, he wasnt showing up much in the gym except for his bench press.
Thats not his hard work thats the steroids hard work because it allowed him to break his platue rapidly, and thats only with 50mg dbol, i would gurantee a 405x1 if he were to stack it with more roids..

But i do get your point about long term goals, he was looking for a shortcut.. i just wanted to say you dont have to be disciplined to get strong with roids, more juice more results..

I disagree that he would have gotten 125lb bench increase on a cycle. The 50 lbs he gained from a first cycle is typical. I too gained a little more than 50 lbs on bench my first go. After that 1st cycle 50lbs isnt gonna happen again. Not to mention if his diet, pct, and training sucked he probably lost most if not all the gains made. Everyone has a great first cycle, but after that your diet, training, and recovery will all affect how well your cycle goes. steroids do give you an edge but you still have to work your ass off.

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I disagree that he would have gotten 125lb bench increase on a cycle. The 50 lbs he gained from a first cycle is typical. I too gained a little more than 50 lbs on bench my first go. After that 1st cycle 50lbs isnt gonna happen again. Not to mention if his diet, pct, and training sucked he probably lost most if not all the gains made. Everyone has a great first cycle, but after that your diet, training, and recovery will all affect how well your cycle goes. steroids do give you an edge but you still have to work your ass off.

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I gained 50lbs on flat bench in a month on my first cycle on beast. Shit was amazing. I worked my ass off in the gym though and ate ate ate
 
My family knows. My brother in-law one time made a snide comment at dinner like "if I did steroids I could look like that too". So my mom goes, "maybe you should have him get you some. You could really use it". Love my mom! lol
 
My family knows. My brother in-law one time made a snide comment at dinner like "if I did steroids I could look like that too". So my mom goes, "maybe you should have him get you some. You could really use it". Love my mom! lol

Lmao I love her too. She probably knows you live in the gym and don't sit around on your ass sticking needles in you all day like he probably assumes.
 
Lmao I love her too. She probably knows you live in the gym and don't sit around on your ass sticking needles in you all day like he probably assumes.

Exactly. My mom knows it's part of the equation, not the mainstay of the results. She knows I'm smart about my health and that I do my research and she has a very low tolerence for idiotic statements and ignorance. Plus she knows I'm a hot ass mother fucker and if she wasn't my mom, she'd probably want to have sex with me. haha
 
not to hurt anyones feelings but if you put 100 pounds on your bench or turn into another person on your first cycle where people don't recognize you then you were severely below your genetic potential and could of easily gained more before turning to juice.

a buddy of mine benches 85 pounds as a max, he is weak as hell.. a cyclist, not a lifter. if he went on juice and worked out hard i bet he would easily double that bench weight. but if he also worked out and ate well he would be able to double that too in due time. hope that analogy makes sense, not to piss on anyone in this thread or anything. a big factor is waiting to juice till you are older and adding a strong base which takes years, not months or weeks.
 
My family knows. My brother in-law one time made a snide comment at dinner like "if I did steroids I could look like that too". So my mom goes, "maybe you should have him get you some. You could really use it". Love my mom! lol


That sounds like my mother. Lmao My mom knows. She is a Dr. One of my best friends is a Urologist and they gang up on me alot. Make sure I do bloods, check blood pressure daily, proper on cycle Ai's, you know, what we should really do for ourselves anyway. My first cycle was test cyp. I was too young. (Hid it from those who cared about me) I had not reached my genetic potential or even close. I shrank my nuts up like raisins, got a bloated moon face, and walked around the gym like I was the man. Good times. Not! As far as peoples reactions they probably thought I was as big an idiot as I do now looking back. However 18yrs later and alot of studying and research, people in my life that do know, have a respect for the fact that I am minimizing the risks associated with AAS every way possible. I eat right I train hard and I don't screw around with it. This is my lifestyle now not just a get big quick scheme.
 
However 18yrs later and alot of studying and research, people in my life that do know, have a respect for the fact that I am minimizing the risks associated with AAS every way possible. I eat right I train hard and I don't screw around with it. This is my lifestyle now not just a get big quick scheme.
Well put
 
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