PCT and my sex drive?

[sonicwaste]

it gets alittle old seeing people bash things that work to promote there own products

anyone that has cycle experience knows what works and whats bullshit so ill leave it at that

I agree with you. I don't sell anything. But there are new products that I've tried out, that have really helped me and when something works for me I like to share my experience so that it may help someone in the future. I am not a know all or know-it-all, but I'm just trying to share my experiences so that others may possibly benefit from it.

The other problem is that there are tons and tons of people here with little to no cycle experience. And these are the guys that need help...And yes, some of these people need options other than clomid, nolva... And some people, like the original post-er need a different set of options than OTC products. Different things work for different people, and that is really why I keep interjecting. Clomid and Nolva work for a lot of people and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

If we don't continue to try new things and challenge old ideas, we will never move forward.

 

[Nelson Montana]

it gets alittle old seeing people bash things that work to promote there own products

anyone that has cycle experience knows what works and whats bullshit so ill leave it at that

Gotta call you full of shit on this one bro.

If you, for one second, think I would jeopardize people's health to sell something that doesn't work you're out of your mind.

I was speaking out about Clomid YEARS before having a product line. The bashing is justified. They don;t work well and have nasty side effects.

I also recommended the ingredients to people and saw it working time and time again and THAT is why I decided to release it as a supp. And virtually everyone who has used it says it works.

I also recommend other peoples products that I think can help.

I've had plenty of cycle experience and have worked with people who have had more experience that you or anyone else on this board. And I'm telling you flat out, your stuck in the 90's when gurus like Duchaine were making guesses. Nolva and Clomid are shitty, outdated drugs. Duchaine himself admitted that.

Now if you're satisfied with the results...that's fine. For some people that work and the supps just add some "supplementing." But for many, the supps work better and it's smarter to go with the safer alternative more often than not.

 

[HAYEZ]

Gotta call you full of shit on this one bro.

If you, for one second, think I would jeopardize people's health to sell something that doesn't work you're out of your mind.

I was speaking out about Clomid YEARS before having a product line. The bashing is justified. They don;t work well and have nasty side effects.

I also recommended the ingredients to people and saw it working time and time again and THAT is why I decided to release it as a supp. And virtually everyone who has used it says it works.

I also recommend other peoples products that I think can help.

I've had plenty of cycle experience and have worked with people who have had more experience that you or anyone else on this board. And I'm telling you flat out, your stuck in the 90's when gurus like Duchaine were making guesses. Nolva and Clomid are shitty, outdated drugs. Duchaine himself admitted that.

Now if you're satisfied with the results...that's fine. For some people that work and the supps just add some "supplementing." But for many, the supps work better and it's smarter to go with the safer alternative more often than not.

clomid doesnt work as well but it still does work for pct...nolva is a better option...last time i had blood work done after using hcg during and nolva for pct my test levels were mid 600s out of 850 after 2 back to back test and tren cycles...so nolva does work

im not knocking any products but i feel nolva or clomid should be the base of all pct with whatever else you want to add on

 

[Nelson Montana]

clomid doesnt work as well but it still does work for pct...nolva is a better option...last time i had blood work done after using hcg during and nolva for pct my test levels were mid 600s out of 850 after 2 back to back test and tren cycles...so nolva does work

im not knocking any products but i feel nolva or clomid should be the base of all pct with whatever else you want to add on

But what were your levels 2 weeks after stopping the nolva?

 

[HAYEZ]

But what were your levels 2 weeks after stopping the nolva?

month after is when i had done

 

[Nelson Montana]

month after is when i had done

A month after stopping everything your T level was normal/high after 16 weeks of test and tren ? And you just used hcg and nolva?


Wow.

You're lucky.

 

[THE GOOD SUN]

it gets alittle old seeing people bash things that work to promote there own products

anyone that has cycle experience knows what works and whats bullshit so ill leave it at that

..well said & enough said!