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So Nolva and Clomid does not act to restore the HPTA?
Use of clomiphene citrate to reverse premature and...[Fertil Steril. 2003] - PubMed Result
PCT and my sex drive?
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So Nolva and Clomid does not act to restore the HPTA?
Use of clomiphene citrate to reverse premature and...[Fertil Steril. 2003] - PubMed Result
Like every other study on the subject, it's a shit test. What were the levels before steroid treatment? What were the levels afterward? All it says is that T was "restored" after 2 months. Well, it would be "restored" after 2 months of nothing.
Then why bother with PCT at all? lol
I can only comment on what has worked for me in the past, and I have suffered when using only otc pct.
I have only run DS/PHs.
Example.... Epistane 40mg ed for 5 weeks. PCT with the TRS and Unleashed only..... Felt like shit with no sex drive and a general lethargic feeling for a month or so after the PCT was complete. I have no blood work, but I eventually felt "Recovered". Sex drive returned, balls back to normal "apple size" lol, and general feeling of shittines was gone.
All other DS/PH cycles I have ran have been with the inclusion of either nolva or clomid. Recovery has always seemed "easier" when using a serm. I have yet to experience any negative sides that are associated with clomid and nolva, but I have never ran each over 50mg and 40mg ed respectively. They are cheap and they work. I do not know of anyone outside of members on this forum who will state otherwise.
If you feel PCT and recovery is better with the exclusion of serms then go for it.
Hey bro I got kinda the same problem, im in week 4 of my clomid/aromasin/sustain alpha PCT and when I fuck and stop at all it will go limp fast, and i know my shit is legit. I might be adding unleashed in here too, but idk what my t levels are
I'm not sure why this would be the case -- too many variables. But some people respond well to SARMS. But many don't.
SARMS do nothing to restore testicle size so who knows why that was the case, but consider yourself lucky. If anything, guys claim they balls grow on UNLEASHED! lol! I think it's just the general increase of libido that makes them think so!
sonicwaste
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I do understand where people are coming from with their thoughts on Nolva and Clomid restoring HPTA. But for every study that suggests that SERMs can restore HPTA, there is another study that shows that they don't, and then there are studies that show that it's mildly effective in restoring HPTA.
And nowhere did anyone say to just use OTC chemicals. HCG is not OTC and is important for a PCT.
There is no one drug that that will cover all of your bases during a PCT. It's best to try things out and find what works for you. But rendundancy is a good thing in PCT. Meaning the more things you can safely add, the better.
Like the PCT I talked about before:
HCG, Sustain Alpha, Forged Post Cycle, EF Post Cycle, Unleashed, Arimidex
That's not OTC... But, not SERMs. It works, plain and simple.
You have drugs that work through so many different avenues.
The Unleashed totally jazzed up my libido and sense of well being. But you have to front load it.
hey sonic I just got UNLEASHED i think that should work, how long do you frontload with 6 caps? I got 2bottles so 180caps total
sonicwaste
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The directions say to frontload for 1 week. But since I had 2 bottles too, I frontloaded for 2 weeks just to see the difference. I could tell a difference when I dropped it down to 3 caps. I'd be curious to know if it would be safe to consistently run at 6 caps per day. It's so cheap that it would totally be worth it to run 6 caps per day during the whole PCT if there weren't any adverse reactions.
